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[Ludeless]

So my back is killing me from trying to fight w/ the new pedal set. I can't figure out where that thing mounts to the top. I can figure out the 2 points where it mounts to the firewall, but it looks like i'm missing something for the top mounting.



here's a few pics...

Looks like the hole in the bracket should mount to something? Also how the bracket is carved out w/ the half circle shape makes me think something should be going through that area.






The old brake pedal was mounted to the yellow painted bracket right behind the steering gear....but with the new pedal set nothing even comes close to fitting in that area







On a happier note...i did figure out the shifter cables and got that taken care of

[mdlimy]

i think your doing the same thing i did the first time bud, your using the whole new pedal set right? you use the original bracket, pull the brake pedal off it and throw your new brake and clutch pedal on it and bolt it up as it was originally. i had to punch out a piece of the hollow part that the shaft goes through and i think i used the other shaft. point being is that you use the oringal bracket part.

[lookforjoe]

Didn't you know that the bracket doesn't need to be swapped? All you do is remove the pivot bolt & replace the brake pedal/install the clutch pedal. Was the bracket from a x70? Can't see any other reason for it to be different.

[mdlimy]

btw post a pic of your center consol trim for the 5spd if you have it, i need one to compare to while its out.

[Ludeless]

The PEdal Set is from a V70 i believe... was told it would still work in a 850...


My original pedal


And the new set...

[mdlimy]

you were told wrong. use the oringal pedal brack and transfer the pedals onto it like we said, it only takes a minute.

you were told wrong. use the oringal pedal brack and transfer the pedals onto it like we said, it only takes a minute.

i used the long bolt from the new set, and ran it through the old bracket with both the new pedals on it, and put a nut on the end. make sure the plastic bushings are in the ends of the pedals and you might have to pound out a little peice inside the hollow part of the braket like i said so you can put the long bolt all the way through.

[Ludeless]

btw post a pic of your center consol trim for the 5spd if you have it, i need one to compare to while its out.

Pics will be here in a second...

http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/lud.../swap%20update/

[Ludeless]

you were told wrong. use the oringal pedal brack and transfer the pedals onto it like we said, it only takes a minute.

i used the long bolt from the new set, and ran it through the old bracket with both the new pedals on it, and put a nut on the end. make sure the plastic bushings are in the ends of the pedals and you might have to pound out a little peice inside the hollow part of the braket like i said so you can put the long bolt all the way through.

Workin on that now... Do you use the grew metal bracket (that was from the new set...the v70 one)? That had the bracket that holds the switch...assuming it's for the cruise control killswitch on the clutch pedal...has a vac line going to it. The old bracket that i have doesn't seem to have any provisions for mounting that switch.

[mdlimy]

Workin on that now... Do you use the grew metal bracket (that was from the new set...the v70 one)? That had the bracket that holds the switch...assuming it's for the cruise control killswitch on the clutch pedal...has a vac line going to it. The old bracket that i have doesn't seem to have any provisions for mounting that switch.

i really dont remember, i cant even remember if i have that switch.

[Ludeless]

i really dont remember, i cant even remember if i have that switch.

I think i need to use the grey bracket...that bracket also attaches to the helper spring on the clutch pedal... The black pedal bracket from my auto doesn't have anything to attach the spring to.... unless the springs are a different style...

[mdlimy]

I think i need to use the grey bracket...that bracket also attaches to the helper spring on the clutch pedal... The black pedal bracket from my auto doesn't have anything to attach the spring to.... unless the springs are a different style...

you my friend are a genious! haha i didnt think of that, i was left with a spring from my swap kit and i thought it was a helper spring but couldnt find out where it went, i think your right, if you figure out how the brackets mount and get it finished take a pic for me! clutch is all sorts of mushy nastyness without the spring.

[Ludeless]

you my friend are a genious! haha i didnt think of that, i was left with a spring from my swap kit and i thought it was a helper spring but couldnt find out where it went, i think your right, if you figure out how the brackets mount and get it finished take a pic for me! clutch is all sorts of mushy nastyness without the spring.

Looking on VADIS..they do look like different types of springs... Torsion springs on the 850 bracket, and a compression spring on the V70 pedal set. I got the compression spring w/ the swap kit that i received...so think i do need to figure out how to use the bracket too.

Looks like it may need to be drilled out to get it to work. There's a ~1/4" gap between the end of the plastic bushing and the end of the shaft, so it would allow the clutch pedal to slide back and forth a bit maybe? I'm calling it a night and taking a fresh look at it in the morning...

[mdlimy]

Looking on VADIS..they do look like different types of springs... Torsion springs on the 850 bracket, and a compression spring on the V70 pedal set. I got the compression spring w/ the swap kit that i received...so think i do need to figure out how to use the bracket too.

Looks like it may need to be drilled out to get it to work. There's a ~1/4" gap between the end of the plastic bushing and the end of the shaft, so it would allow the clutch pedal to slide back and forth a bit maybe? I'm calling it a night and taking a fresh look at it in the morning...

your right about the torsion spring, i forgot i noticed that on vadis also. and as for the space on the shaft with the pedal, i a had the same problem, just found some washers and threw them on there, like 5 or so worked for me.

[waldendan]

The PEdal Set is from a V70 i believe... was told it would still work in a 850...


My original pedal


And the new set...

very simple solution, you were sent a late chasis pedal assembly when you need a early one, the correct assembly looks pretty much just like your old one except it has the clutch pedal on it, I ran into the same problem with my swap, so I called the junk yard and got the correct pedals, the chsis break is in 98 if I remember correctly so any 850 5spd pedals should work, don't waste your time trying to ghetto righ the spring, just get the correct $h!t

[Ludeless]

very simple solution, you were sent a late chasis pedal assembly when you need a early one, the correct assembly looks pretty much just like your old one except it has the clutch pedal on it, I ran into the same problem with my swap, so I called the junk yard and got the correct pedals, the chsis break is in 98 if I remember correctly so any 850 5spd pedals should work, don't waste your time trying to ghetto righ the spring, just get the correct $h!t

Using the old bracket alone still doesn't solve the issue of where to mount the cruise control killswitch since the original bracket has no provisions for attaching the sensor/switch.

I'm not even seeing this sensor/switch on VADIS for the 850s, but you can see it on the pics of the v70 pedal set i posted. There's gotta be a way to put this on there, or the rpm's would just rev up whenever the clutch was engaged if you're running w/ cruise control otherwise...

[Big Will]

Hey guys I think I can help. If you connect the vacuum line from the brake pedal to the clutch pedal for the cruise control like you're supposed to the cruise will work just fine. It won't spike in RPMs the way you're thinking. I have it set up this way w/ no switch on the clutch pedal. The cruise will still disengage when you put in the clutch but when you re-select a gear the car will slowly return to the previous cruising speed. The brake pedal will still disengage cruise completely as normal. But don't worry, there's no rpm spike etc. It works very well and I personally like it this way.

If you want it to work so that the clutch completely disengages cruise, then I think you need to add the switch and the little electrical plug like the one on the brake pedal.

[Ludeless]

Hey guys I think I can help. If you connect the vacuum line from the brake pedal to the clutch pedal for the cruise control like you're supposed to the cruise will work just fine. It won't spike in RPMs the way you're thinking. I have it set up this way w/ no switch on the clutch pedal. The cruise will still disengage when you put in the clutch but when you re-select a gear the car will slowly return to the previous cruising speed. The brake pedal will still disengage cruise completely as normal. But don't worry, there's no rpm spike etc. It works very well and I personally like it this way.

If you want it to work so that the clutch completely disengages cruise, then I think you need to add the switch and the little electrical plug like the one on the brake pedal.

Hmmm...so that cruise killswitch doesn't exist on the clutch pedal at all for 850's is what you're saying? That's what i'm seeing after going through vadis. If it works that way, i guess there's no need to even run a vac line to the clutch pedal at all since there's no switch.

[PsychoBeano]

No switch on mine. I deleted it since there was no way to plug it in. Mike D (Boomin 850) deleted the switch as well. You don't need it to drive the car and from what I've read, you don't need it for cruise control either.

[Ludeless]

Damn...this isn't gonna work at all w/ this freakin clutch pedal that i got w/ the set (the v70 one)...

I would have been able to get the bracket to fit to be able to use the compression spring, but it pushes the pedal the wrong way! Moves it towards the firewall instead of back out towards the driver.

Looks like the pedal from the 850 has a different piece welded to the pedal which the torsion spring attaches to to pull the pedal towards the driver. damn damn damn.... So much for making any progress on the car over the break...i have a feeling it's gonna take a while to find a clutch pedal from an 850.

I was thinking this pedal part would be the simplest part of the job...but it's turning out to be the biggest PITA so far.

[mdlimy]

Damn...this isn't gonna work at all w/ this freakin clutch pedal that i got w/ the set (the v70 one)...

I would have been able to get the bracket to fit to be able to use the compression spring, but it pushes the pedal the wrong way! Moves it towards the firewall instead of back out towards the driver.

Looks like the pedal from the 850 has a different piece welded to the pedal which the torsion spring attaches to to pull the pedal towards the driver. damn damn damn.... So much for making any progress on the car over the break...i have a feeling it's gonna take a while to find a clutch pedal from an 850.

I was thinking this pedal part would be the simplest part of the job...but it's turning out to be the biggest PITA so far.

dude just throw it all in how i said and drive it till you find the 850 pedal set. it will be the same as me, no return spring (its really not that bad at all, just make sure u bleed the clutch veryveryvery well) and no cruise control (boohoo) atleast it will get you by. lucky for me the jy i got my tranny for stil has the 850 pedal set so ill just go pick it up.