guess i'm glad im not going to bother with it then huh?
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The Ultimate Budget Build
Started by HtownTurboBrick, Apr 25 2009 10:57 PM
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 07:54 AM
what 30 more hp and 60 more tq not possible with a 19t? guess i'm glad im not going to bother with it then huh?
guess i'm glad im not going to bother with it then huh?
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:40 AM
okay. another one? seriously?
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 02:36 PM
2000 R head + 850 block = ??
can this be done?
can this be done?
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 03:18 PM
QUOTE (pwebb @ Apr 26 2009, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2000 R head + 850 block = ??
can this be done?
can this be done?
yes. may need to look at the oil passages.
can you even find just the head though?
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 03:25 PM
QUOTE (prasamin @ Apr 26 2009, 02:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
okay. another one? seriously?
this one was ali's and did have 160k...
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 03:47 PM
Great job guys...sounds like an awesome project. Really amazed at the numbers and that y'all actually did this. I think Juan's car will do what is suggested, really curious to see what happens for both of us once the tune gets sorted out- I think there is still a lot of power to be had out of our cars with the right tune- and I think this build proves it. I think it's great this was done on a budget, I think a lot of us get into our builders deeper than we should and this just proves you can put down some killer numbers on the cheap. Can't wait to see the car when it's fully built.
I have to comment and say the same things that Juan and John are saying. Aaron is the most trust worthy guy, he always does more than he says, it's always done right, and it's always done in the time frame discussed. Aaron has went above and beyond with my car and given me far more than I ever asked for. I'm doing my project with him from over 5 hours away and have been doing it all by e-mail and phone over several months and I have never once had even a thought that it wasn't being done properly or that he wasn't telling me the right deal on things. Def. props to Aaron and I highly recommend him to anyone on he board. I really hope it doesn't sound like I am giving Aaron too much praise, when the entire build of my car is posted you will see what I'm talking about.
Also props to Volvo Saab auto salvage, I bought a lot of my swap parts through them as well as parts for many of the Volvos I've bought and sold. Another great vendor that I highly recommend.
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I have to comment and say the same things that Juan and John are saying. Aaron is the most trust worthy guy, he always does more than he says, it's always done right, and it's always done in the time frame discussed. Aaron has went above and beyond with my car and given me far more than I ever asked for. I'm doing my project with him from over 5 hours away and have been doing it all by e-mail and phone over several months and I have never once had even a thought that it wasn't being done properly or that he wasn't telling me the right deal on things. Def. props to Aaron and I highly recommend him to anyone on he board. I really hope it doesn't sound like I am giving Aaron too much praise, when the entire build of my car is posted you will see what I'm talking about.
Also props to Volvo Saab auto salvage, I bought a lot of my swap parts through them as well as parts for many of the Volvos I've bought and sold. Another great vendor that I highly recommend.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 03:56 PM
That's pretty damn cool! Nice job Aaron. It's really nice when you have friends who are willing to explore a bit!
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 05:41 PM
QUOTE (prasamin @ Apr 26 2009, 03:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
okay. another one? seriously?
yes pras...and it came very close to me putting your old motor in my car too QUOTE (ajhehr @ Apr 26 2009, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this one was ali's and did have 160k...
and he wasn't very nice to it
QUOTE (94850tx @ Apr 26 2009, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great job guys...sounds like an awesome project. Really amazed at the numbers and that y'all actually did this. I think Juan's car will do what is suggested, really curious to see what happens for both of us once the tune gets sorted out- I think there is still a lot of power to be had out of our cars with the right tune- and I think this build proves it. I think it's great this was done on a budget, I think a lot of us get into our builders deeper than we should and this just proves you can put down some killer numbers on the cheap. Can't wait to see the car when it's fully built.
Yea we're sufficiently amazed by all of it too, even tho it's pretty much what we were estimating due just how stupid strong the car has been pulling and roasting my tires.
QUOTE (B Mac @ Apr 26 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's pretty damn cool! Nice job Aaron. It's really nice when you have friends who are willing to explore a bit!
LOL it's why I'm RaceLabFabrication's "Lead Product Tester", I break the most shit and need Aaron to find me cheap fixes that work
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 05:43 PM
QUOTE (sconeman @ Apr 26 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
would this work on and older 850 (95) too with 4.3?
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 05:47 PM
QUOTE (sconeman @ Apr 25 2009, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wow. very cool. I would definately want to do this if I ever need a new engine...uhm would this work on and older (95) too with 4.3?
I don't see why it wouldn't, the install would go pretty much the same way. There's no different motor wise in the swap, it's just the 4.3, but that shouldn't really be in the way. I'd suggest having a tune to support the swap and AFAIK right now the ST 17 PSI tune is what is guaranteed to make it work.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 06:25 PM
on the 850s...
yes same exact thing, I doubt you would need a tune, but it does help.
It looks like the VE of the solid lifter head is a good bit better so the speedtuning tune (allready a little rich) matched perfectly in jon's car.
yes same exact thing, I doubt you would need a tune, but it does help.
It looks like the VE of the solid lifter head is a good bit better so the speedtuning tune (allready a little rich) matched perfectly in jon's car.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 07:11 PM
QUOTE (ajhehr @ Apr 26 2009, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
on the 850s...
yes same exact thing, I doubt you would need a tune, but it does help.
It looks like the VE of the solid lifter head is a good bit better so the speedtuning tune (allready a little rich) matched perfectly in jon's car.
yes same exact thing, I doubt you would need a tune, but it does help.
It looks like the VE of the solid lifter head is a good bit better so the speedtuning tune (allready a little rich) matched perfectly in jon's car.
great info. I know what I'm putting in if I ever bend a rod. 850 with 00R engine and 5 speed manual would= : )
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 07:31 PM
QUOTE (sconeman @ Apr 26 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
great info. I know what I'm putting in if I ever bend a rod. 850 with 00R engine and 5 speed manual would= : )
we had a little talk of the 5 speed v 6 speed on this transplant.
My thoughts are you would lose almost as much as you would gain performance wise,
as the shorter gearing in the 6 would only translate to more wheel spin at lower mph.
I think you would gain some at the 60 to 120 range. and the rpm of the 6 speed while cruising is really nice!
I think with the right setup even the m56l gearing would be advantageous...
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 10:04 PM
QUOTE (ajhehr @ Apr 26 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we had a little talk of the 5 speed v 6 speed on this transplant.
My thoughts are you would lose almost as much as you would gain performance wise,
as the shorter gearing in the 6 would only translate to more wheel spin at lower mph.
I think you would gain some at the 60 to 120 range. and the rpm of the 6 speed while cruising is really nice!
I think with the right setup even the m56l gearing would be advantageous...
My thoughts are you would lose almost as much as you would gain performance wise,
as the shorter gearing in the 6 would only translate to more wheel spin at lower mph.
I think you would gain some at the 60 to 120 range. and the rpm of the 6 speed while cruising is really nice!
I think with the right setup even the m56l gearing would be advantageous...
six speeds are for narrow power bands. with all that torque one would think taller ratios would be the way to go.
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Posted 27 April 2009 - 12:12 AM
QUOTE (ajhehr @ Apr 26 2009, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes. may need to look at the oil passages.
can you even find just the head though?
can you even find just the head though?
The difference in bore wouldn't be an issue? I was under the impression that the 2.4L in the '00 R was an 83mm bore...
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Posted 27 April 2009 - 12:28 AM
Lol, I've been waiting for this thread.
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Posted 27 April 2009 - 01:22 AM
QUOTE (pwebb @ Apr 26 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
six speeds are for narrow power bands. with all that torque one would think taller ratios would be the way to go.
I dunno. With the rpm limit raised to 7600 - I can get to 98mph in 3rd, and it's still pulling
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Posted 27 April 2009 - 01:52 AM
QUOTE (ozzimark @ Apr 26 2009, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The difference in bore wouldn't be an issue? I was under the impression that the 2.4L in the '00 R was an 83mm bore...
no it wont, use the cyl head gasket for the block you are using and move on with life.
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Posted 27 April 2009 - 02:12 PM
QUOTE (EVL WAGN @ Apr 26 2009, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Phucking pure awesomeness right there!!!! Good work!!!
And still more to come
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Not going to bother going with a 19T, but you should seen numbers for a real 00 R w/ FWD manual (post #2's car) here shortly. We imagine hitting 300+whp and close to 400wtq on that.
Yea 19t is for pansies
, j/k.. It's a great turbo, we'll see how it turns out on the R this week. Whatever the numbers are, we're doing for the sake of a good IPD log we're not dyno queens, if people think AWD manuals get to high speed fast, idk what to make of mine on 3rd 
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 01:27 AM
i think I may do this... 
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