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#1 EricF

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 07:55 PM

Can't find my Motronic 4.3 book and its pages and pages of associated wiring diagrams.

I did a manual swap and converted to a standalone EMS (VEMS) on my 850, and none of the power windows are currently working. Ignition switch works, power mirrors work, the door switches in the back don't do anything either. I can't find the fuse on the fusebox list, and I am not sure if one of the relays in the fuse box is for them or not. If so, I would start with the relay...

It's the same power windows switch box as I had when the car was an auto. Everything else in the car seems to work, can't really pin down where I could have touched anything regarding the power windows. The auto-down relay is hooked up, everything in the console from the power windows switch terminates at its proper harness in the front (gray connector to gray connector correct? :P )

Has anyone else had issues with this? Possible solutions? Wiring diagrams please?
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 02:01 AM

Blue wire pin 10 on the master switch needs to be hot, breaker 37, relay 3...


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Posted 26 August 2009 - 01:39 PM

Does anyone know where the relay is? I see the diagram calls it #3, but don't see a 3 painted on any of the relays I can find...
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 01:14 AM

View PostEricF, on 26 August 2009 - 01:39 PM, said:

Does anyone know where the relay is? I see the diagram calls it #3, but don't see a 3 painted on any of the relays I can find...

it's one of the J relays under the hood. not sure which, but it's one of the outside 2, i think the one closest to the fender. The "fuse" is # 37 it's under the cover as well, looks like a big silver blade fuse. It's one of those auto resetting circut breakers disguised as a fuse on steroids.

Does the sunroof work?

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:57 PM

View PostMyCarIsRed, on 27 August 2009 - 01:14 AM, said:

it's one of the J relays under the hood. not sure which, but it's one of the outside 2, i think the one closest to the fender. The "fuse" is # 37 it's under the cover as well, looks like a big silver blade fuse. It's one of those auto resetting circut breakers disguised as a fuse on steroids.

Does the sunroof work?

There wasn't any power going to the #37 circuit breaker, and I switched the J's around to no avail. So I just piggybacked it off of my ECU/Injectors/Ignitors relay that's operated by a switch on the driver's kick panel. A lot of load is on that relay now though, so I might have to split a couple off.

In any case it's working and the car is on the road again, and thank you!!!
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:27 AM

View PostEricF, on 27 August 2009 - 12:57 PM, said:

There wasn't any power going to the #37 circuit breaker, and I switched the J's around to no avail. So I just piggybacked it off of my ECU/Injectors/Ignitors relay that's operated by a switch on the driver's kick panel. A lot of load is on that relay now though, so I might have to split a couple off.

In any case it's working and the car is on the road again, and thank you!!!

Happy to help. At least it's working. I'll see if i can figure out where the distro for the breaker is, it's kinda like a puzzle game.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:24 PM

View PostEricF, on 27 August 2009 - 12:57 PM, said:

There wasn't any power going to the #37 circuit breaker, and I switched the J's around to no avail. So I just piggybacked it off of my ECU/Injectors/Ignitors relay that's operated by a switch on the driver's kick panel. A lot of load is on that relay now though, so I might have to split a couple off.

In any case it's working and the car is on the road again, and thank you!!!
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Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:35 AM

Manual swap?
Ok so console was out I assume..... check yellow and gray (I think) connectors under ashtray and make sure they are fully seated
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