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Started by sconeman, Jan 13 2010 09:25 PM

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#1 sconeman

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 09:25 PM

I got a little something today from the autoparts store : )

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PLAN #1 (the boring but quick? version)
Pull engine replace engine with 98T5m engine end of story.

PLAN #2 (what I'd love to do if I had the time and knew what I was doing)
Pull engine and awd system. Replace with 98T5m engine and transmission.

POTENTIAL HANGUPS:

never installed an engine.
never removed awd system.
never done a manual swap.

POSSIBLE OUTCOMES:

Fail

Fail partly

Win

you choose. stay tuned.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 09:37 PM

confidence man confidence! im sure there are people around that are willing to give you a hand.
And in my opinion i would just do the t5m swap the first time around, you will be kicking your self when you are pulling the motor and trans a second time around to put in a manual.
honestly if you remove the driveshaft you can just leave the rear end in place and run it as fwd, and it will be easier to put in the motor and trans without the awd bevel gear.
in conclusion...manual swap that bitch and ditch the drive shaft! B)

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 09:52 PM

View Postmdlimy5, on 13 January 2010 - 09:37 PM, said:

honestly if you remove the driveshaft you can just leave the rear end in place and run it as fwd, and it will be easier to put in the motor and trans without the awd bevel gear.


Sounds heavy. I have an entire FWD V70 rear suspension for sale. :)

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 09:54 PM

I had never pulled an engine prior to doing my manual swap. You can do this, especially since this is not your DD.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:28 PM

Go for it. Pulling an engine is very straight foward and really not that difficult.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:29 PM

how about I drive up one day tell you what to do with out getting dirty ... grab my tranny and head back the next ?
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:09 PM

I like Justin's idea. Christian, do it all, go all out and have fun with it, you don't need the car right away.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:24 PM

Do it once.

Pulling the AWD components is no biggie. You can hold on to them in case I break another bevel gear :rolleyes:

Keep the multilink rear!
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:25 PM

View PostC70drvr, on 13 January 2010 - 09:52 PM, said:

Sounds heavy. I have an entire FWD V70 rear suspension for sale. :)

that would be money! B)

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 12:26 AM

View PostChilled Man, on 13 January 2010 - 10:29 PM, said:

how about I drive up one day tell you what to do with out getting dirty ... grab my tranny and head back the next ?
Uh LOVE it! what R u doing this weekend? (last weekend that the restaurant is not open) i was planning on working on it Sunday but could be anyday or even Monday.

View Postlookforjoe, on 13 January 2010 - 11:24 PM, said:

Do it once.

Pulling the AWD components is no biggie. You can hold on to them in case I break another bevel gear :rolleyes:

Keep the multilink rear!
LOL sounds like a plan. Yeah like the multi link. and not really planning to lower it or anything.

View PostOrEo931, on 13 January 2010 - 10:28 PM, said:

Go for it. Pulling an engine is very straight foward and really not that difficult.
i've pulled two just never the reverse. I know it's not hard it's the little crap that'll get ya :lol:

View Postmatt b, on 13 January 2010 - 11:09 PM, said:

I like Justin's idea. Christian, do it all, go all out and have fun with it, you don't need the car right away.
i think my fate has been decided for me. it's almost as though it was meant to be. I need an ECU though and pedals. Only things I don't have for the swap for a V70.

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 12:48 AM

View Postsconeman, on 14 January 2010 - 12:26 AM, said:

I need an ECU though and pedals. Only things I don't have for the swap for a V70.

that wont be hard to find at all, this car is going to be hot shitttt B)

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 02:51 AM

View Postmdlimy5, on 14 January 2010 - 12:48 AM, said:

that wont be hard to find at all, this car is going to be hot shitttt B)
very excited. and just found out we just got a big compressor and airtools today : )

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 03:03 AM

oh it wont be for a few weeks , I was just away for the last three days ....

you do have my cell so you can call for info on the fly thou :D
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 03:09 AM

View PostChilled Man, on 14 January 2010 - 03:03 AM, said:

oh it wont be for a few weeks , I was just away for the last three days ....

you do have my cell so you can call for info on the fly thou :D
Oh bummer, but thanks for the offer. I'll be calling fo sho : ) We're gonna start pulling everything apart this weekend as best we can, then next week I'll start doing timing belt PCV stuff like that

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 03:12 AM

View Postsconeman, on 14 January 2010 - 03:09 AM, said:

Oh bummer, but thanks for the offer. I'll be calling fo sho : ) We're gonna start pulling everything apart this weekend as best we can, then next week I'll start doing timing belt PCV stuff like that
cool i will have my phone on me :D

theres nothing I cant tell you how to do over the phone anyhow :D
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 03:27 AM

View Postmdlimy5, on 14 January 2010 - 12:48 AM, said:

that wont be hard to find at all, this car is going to be hot shitttt B)

'98 T5M ECU's are not so common. usually go for over $200.
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 03:31 AM

Kristian you can always give me a buzz too if you can't reach Justine. The swap is easy, you'll be fine!!
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 03:36 AM

View Postlookforjoe, on 14 January 2010 - 03:27 AM, said:

'98 T5M ECU's are not so common. usually go for over $200.
:ph34r: I have 2-3 of them ... :ph34r:
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 04:12 AM

View PostC70drvr, on 13 January 2010 - 09:52 PM, said:

Sounds heavy. I have an entire FWD V70 rear suspension for sale. :)
...and gas tank and fuel pump and wiring and exhaust...

If you get rid of the rear diff. and axles it will be just a few pounds heavier than fwd, you'll have better rear suspension and better rear brakes.

Aaaand you'll be able to buy a 25mm rear IPD sway from the group buy I've been harassing Lucky about. :D
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 04:18 AM

Good luck!

Let me know what items you're missing for your swap...I have a complete manual swap from a '94 850 that I'm willing to sell part by part...
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