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2000 Volvo S70 Which Auto Transmission fluid to use
#1
Posted 10 March 2005 - 06:08 PM
I have a 2000 Volvo S70 with 60,000 miles. I checked the ATF and it looked very brown, so I would like to change it. My question is, is it OK to use the new Mobil ATF 3309 fluid which meets the volvo fluid JWS3309 specs. for this Aisin AW transmission.
The volvo dealer sells this ATF which is synthetic for $18.00/QT and I found the Mobil ATF 3309 for $4.50/Qt, big different !!
The only different is that the Mobil ATF 3309 is not synthetic, would this matter given that the specs are the same?
I would really appriciate an experts oppinion, since the diferennce in price is very significant.
Thanks
Jose
The volvo dealer sells this ATF which is synthetic for $18.00/QT and I found the Mobil ATF 3309 for $4.50/Qt, big different !!
The only different is that the Mobil ATF 3309 is not synthetic, would this matter given that the specs are the same?
I would really appriciate an experts oppinion, since the diferennce in price is very significant.
Thanks
Jose
#2
Posted 10 March 2005 - 06:21 PM
from your owner's manual:
Automatic transmission fluid
Quality:
AW4: ATF Dexron III and Mercon.
Capacity: 8 US qts. (7.6 liters)
AW5: Only Volvo gearbox oil (1161540-8). Do not mix with other oils.
Capacity: 8 US qts. (7.5 liters
As long as it meets the proper specs, it should be fine.
Automatic transmission fluid
Quality:
AW4: ATF Dexron III and Mercon.
Capacity: 8 US qts. (7.6 liters)
AW5: Only Volvo gearbox oil (1161540-8). Do not mix with other oils.
Capacity: 8 US qts. (7.5 liters
As long as it meets the proper specs, it should be fine.
This post has been edited by gmischenko: 10 March 2005 - 06:22 PM
#6
Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:29 PM
QUOTE(josehb @ Mar 10 2005, 02:08 PM)
I have a 2000 Volvo S70 with 60,000 miles. I checked the ATF and it looked very brown, so I would like to change it. My question is, is it OK to use the new Mobil ATF 3309 fluid which meets the volvo fluid JWS3309 specs. for this Aisin AW transmission.
The volvo dealer sells this ATF which is synthetic for $18.00/QT and I found the Mobil ATF 3309 for $4.50/Qt, big different !!
The only different is that the Mobil ATF 3309 is not synthetic, would this matter given that the specs are the same?
I would really appriciate an experts oppinion, since the diferennce in price is very significant.
Thanks
Jose
The volvo dealer sells this ATF which is synthetic for $18.00/QT and I found the Mobil ATF 3309 for $4.50/Qt, big different !!
The only different is that the Mobil ATF 3309 is not synthetic, would this matter given that the specs are the same?
I would really appriciate an experts oppinion, since the diferennce in price is very significant.
Thanks
Jose
Is yours a NA with the 5 spd auto? Just trying to compare yours to mine...
former owner of a 2000 S70 NA
How could you guys let me sell it?!
How could you guys let me sell it?!
#11
Posted 13 March 2005 - 10:28 PM
Mobil 3309 is not a Dexron-III ATF and not suitable where a Dexron-III ATF is called for. It is rated to replace the special Volvo JWS3309 ATF.
Mobil 1 ATF is a Dexron-III ATF, but not suitable for the Volvo transmissions that require the special Volvo fluid.
I prefer a synthetic ATF for longer fluid life and higher film strength (if it is a PAO base fluid). Redline D4 ATF is my choice if the Volvo JWS3309 fluid is required. If Dexron-III ATF is required, I like the Redline, Mobil 1, Amsoil, or Schaeffer.
Dexron-III, Mercon, JWS3309, and other ATF specs are performance specs, especially relating to the friction characteristics. The friction modifier properties must meet the properties of the clutch materials.
Synthetic or conventional ATF relates to the ingredients used to make the ATF, not the friction performance.
Ken
Mobil 1 ATF is a Dexron-III ATF, but not suitable for the Volvo transmissions that require the special Volvo fluid.
I prefer a synthetic ATF for longer fluid life and higher film strength (if it is a PAO base fluid). Redline D4 ATF is my choice if the Volvo JWS3309 fluid is required. If Dexron-III ATF is required, I like the Redline, Mobil 1, Amsoil, or Schaeffer.
Dexron-III, Mercon, JWS3309, and other ATF specs are performance specs, especially relating to the friction characteristics. The friction modifier properties must meet the properties of the clutch materials.
Synthetic or conventional ATF relates to the ingredients used to make the ATF, not the friction performance.
Ken
1996 850 Turbo wagon, 145,000 miles Spring 2007
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Schaeffer 5W-30 engine oil
Schaeffer premium synthetic blend ATF
Engine and transmission cleaned with Auto-Rx
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Schaeffer 5W-30 engine oil
Schaeffer premium synthetic blend ATF
Engine and transmission cleaned with Auto-Rx
#12
Posted 13 March 2005 - 10:37 PM
QUOTE
Mobil 3309 is not a Dexron-III ATF and not suitable where a Dexron-III ATF is called for. It is rated to replace the special Volvo JWS3309 ATF.
Mobil 1 ATF is a Dexron-III ATF, but not suitable for the Volvo transmissions that require the special Volvo fluid.
I prefer a synthetic ATF for longer fluid life and higher film strength (if it is a PAO base fluid). Redline D4 ATF is my choice if the Volvo JWS3309 fluid is required. If Dexron-III ATF is required, I like the Redline, Mobil 1, Amsoil, or Schaeffer.
Dexron-III, Mercon, JWS3309, and other ATF specs are performance specs, especially relating to the friction characteristics. The friction modifier properties must meet the properties of the clutch materials.
Synthetic or conventional ATF relates to the ingredients used to make the ATF, not the friction performance.
Mobil 1 ATF is a Dexron-III ATF, but not suitable for the Volvo transmissions that require the special Volvo fluid.
I prefer a synthetic ATF for longer fluid life and higher film strength (if it is a PAO base fluid). Redline D4 ATF is my choice if the Volvo JWS3309 fluid is required. If Dexron-III ATF is required, I like the Redline, Mobil 1, Amsoil, or Schaeffer.
Dexron-III, Mercon, JWS3309, and other ATF specs are performance specs, especially relating to the friction characteristics. The friction modifier properties must meet the properties of the clutch materials.
Synthetic or conventional ATF relates to the ingredients used to make the ATF, not the friction performance.
Thank You
#15
Posted 17 March 2005 - 07:04 PM
Well, I just checked the specs for Redline D4 it it looks like it does not meet the Volvo JWS3309 specs. I wil still stick to the Mobil 3309, if it ruins my transmission I should be able to sue them, since they claime it meets the Volvo fluid rigth on the bottle.
Thanks
Thanks
#16
Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:14 PM
QUOTE(Guest @ Mar 11 2005, 01:25 PM)
The transmision is the AW5 5 speed automatic, made in Japan by the Aisin Wagner Company and from what I undestand they make among the best transmissions on the Planet.
However, this transmission requires a special ATF meeting the JWS 3309 specs.
However, this transmission requires a special ATF meeting the JWS 3309 specs.
Where did you find the reference to the JWS 3309 specs? I am trying to verify and see nothing of it in the manual.
former owner of a 2000 S70 NA
How could you guys let me sell it?!
How could you guys let me sell it?!
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