This topic is lockedQUOTE(White850T5 @ Apr 13 2005, 02:34 PM)
No idea. It is still strongly FWD biased though, correct?
Yeah that's probably why Swedish Mikey went straight FWD for his drag car.
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Posted 13 April 2005 - 10:42 PM
Yeah that's probably why Swedish Mikey went straight FWD for his drag car.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 01:05 AM
kinda Off topic but...why doesnt volvo do a little reverse engineering to find out what the top of the line awd systems have that their's doesnt? they have to know their awd system sucks comapred to the other ones out there.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 02:02 AM
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 02:47 AM
QUOTE(ToxicLemonade @ Apr 13 2005, 05:05 PM)
kinda Off topic but...why doesnt volvo do a little reverse engineering to find out what the top of the line awd systems have that their's doesnt? they have to know their awd system sucks comapred to the other ones out there.
That would cost a lot more. Currently they just basically source the setup off the shelf.
Haldex itself isn't the issue. Its the current implementation that is questionable.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 07:43 PM
The way Volvo programs it has a lot to do with the issues. EVOLVE was supposedly working on a fix for that, but I think it turned out to be vapor. Surprise surprise 
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 09:56 PM
QUOTE(ToxicLemonade @ Apr 13 2005, 04:53 PM)
well i figure ill be able to afford one then, just like i had to wait 10 years to afford my R i have right now. c70R, i never heard of such a thing.
Should be out c. 2007/2008.
QUOTE(Nebor @ Apr 13 2005, 06:22 PM)
It's the futuristic v8 RWD C70 with a convertible hard top.
If it's S40 sized I doubt they can shoehorn a V8 in there.
And I doubt it will be RWD. 
Though rumors were started by a british car mag.But All 2006 C70 Convertibles will be hard top, AFAIK.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 10:04 PM
Two things:
1. The Haldex is weak if you plan to double the hp but a perfect 300 hp system.
2. Why Svenske Racing? It should be Svenska.
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1. The Haldex is weak if you plan to double the hp but a perfect 300 hp system.
2. Why Svenske Racing? It should be Svenska.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 10:14 PM
QUOTE(Swedish Mike @ Apr 14 2005, 10:04 PM)
The Haldex is weak if you plan to double the hp but a perfect 300 hp system.
I wouldnt go so far as to call it a perfect system for 300 hp
I'd take a "real" AWD like scoobies or EVOs use any day of the week over volvo's improvised AWD solution.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 10:23 PM
QUOTE(VolvoWill @ Apr 13 2005, 12:42 PM)
The Evolve S60R runs an 11. Its on Cardomain.com It says under estimated HP 540.
I saw a naturally aspirated Volvo 240 that had 1,400 HP and did 0-60 in 2 seconds on Cardomain.
The verdict- don't listen to anyone on Cardomain.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 11:15 PM
QUOTE(JCviggen @ Apr 14 2005, 02:14 PM)
I wouldnt go so far as to call it a perfect system for 300 hp
I'd take a "real" AWD like scoobies or EVOs use any day of the week over volvo's improvised AWD solution.
I'd take a "real" AWD like scoobies or EVOs use any day of the week over volvo's improvised AWD solution.
The real 4WD system is often better for track and hard driving, no question.
But I think the Haldex is perfect for the R-customers, no race-drivers there.
Lower gas-bill is always welcome!
Besides, over here the VAG-cars like Skoda RS and TTīs are just as quick as Evoīs on track.
The magazine Bilsport got a test-track called Superstage, many cars tested.
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QUOTE(ChuckV986 @ Apr 14 2005, 01:43 PM)
The way Volvo programs it has a lot to do with the issues. EVOLVE was supposedly working on a fix for that, but I think it turned out to be vapor. Surprise surprise
Neuspeed has worked with Haldex to make a very RWD biased R32. IT CAN be done just needs TO BE done.
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 03:47 AM
QUOTE(DougK @ Apr 14 2005, 07:07 PM)
Neuspeed has worked with Haldex to make a very RWD biased R32. IT CAN be done just needs TO BE done.
Haldex is suppose to be releasing these "fixes" for several of their applications. I'm pretty sure crapspeed just fronted the money to have their name thrown in the pot with the Haldex fix. neuspeed can suck it.
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 04:10 AM
So you guys are saying the R has a chance at becoming a relatively quick car at some point?
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 06:37 PM
I'd say relative to its competition, it already is pretty quick. Compare it to a 330xi or A4 3.0. Or even worse, a C320 4-matic.
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:08 PM
QUOTE(ChuckV986 @ Apr 17 2005, 06:37 PM)
I'd say relative to its competition, it already is pretty quick. Compare it to a 330xi or A4 3.0. Or even worse, a C320 4-matic.
better not mention that at SS
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:32 PM
I just built an S60R and an Audi A4 on their respective websites, and they're only seperated by a few thousand dollars. I'd say they're direct competition, being AWD Sport Sedans. And frankly, the Audi stomps the Volvo into the dirt.
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 05:38 AM
An A4? A 1.8T?
I have a hard time believing that (after driving numerous ones). My T5R is much more fun to drive in every respect than an A4... only save for interior quality (and 10 years).
I have a hard time believing that (after driving numerous ones). My T5R is much more fun to drive in every respect than an A4... only save for interior quality (and 10 years).
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:07 AM
Are you kidding? The B5 A4 can put down LARGE numbers...their cranks are good for 400whp (ON STOC INTERNALS)...I know mutiple people that are constantly putting down low 13s....the B5 A4 kills the 850 in terms of modability...so many companies are out there...as for the B6A4, that thing is a pig and its slow as dirt...but can still be made resonably quick...I still think the S60R is too new for modifications like the B5 A4 has....
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:18 AM
I was comparing stock to stock.
Modded to modded is a different story, your completely right.
Modded to modded is a different story, your completely right.
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QUOTE(Johann @ Apr 13 2005, 02:48 PM)
My R tested 404 crank HP on RICA's static MAHA dyno which isn't known for being optimistic.
youre right, they are not. bearing the 318hp and 451 Nm in mind i did on that thing your car must pull like jupiter's gravity. 404bhp.....
wasnt your 850 with 19T also dynoed just like 10 or 15 more compared to my car on that very same dyno of Rica. ??? i just dont dare to imagine how 80 (!!!!!) hp plus must feel then.....
i really cant wait for next sunday when i hopefully see that beast. what was baselin with her, johann?
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