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I just got my ETM update at my local Volvo dealer in Norway. The car drives fine, and it seems to be a little quicker and the gearshifts looks like they are doing a little smoother. Also looks like the gas comsumption is a little down.
I'm tuning my car with the PPC unit from BSR in Sweden. The unit automatically detects the ETM tuning and do not wipe it out from the ECU. Just great!
I'm driving "untuned" in the wintertime, but now it's spring time and the summer tires are ready.
To tune my car up to 300 Hp I use 3 minutes with the PPC unit attached to the car.
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Electronic Throttle Bodys (Etm, Eth..Etc) Updated 9/09!
Started by Bay13, May 11 2005 11:10 AM
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 11:22 PM
QUOTE(MadeInJapan @ Apr 4 2006, 09:55 PM) 
Yep....they have to prove to themselves that your ETM is foooobarred before they'll replace it for free.
Exactly what I was told as well. My car, '99 XC70, was having idle problems and a surging problem when accelerating. Volvo did the software upgrade which corrected the idle problem but the surging is still present. By surging I mean that car while accelerating will hit an RPM level say 2800 and then oscillate quickly between 2800 and 2500 RPM for a few seconds. The only way to get it to stop is to momentarily back off the throttle. This is a bit of a concern when trying to accelerate into a travel lane on the highway for example. The dealer believes that the ETM probably needs to be replaced to correct this BUT the car is showing no codes SO the only option is for ME to pay for the replacement. The dealer is quoting $1600 to do the replacement. Needless to say I am not jumping to spend this kind of money but feel the car is going to strand me someplace. Guess its a waiting game at this point.
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Posted 02 May 2006 - 12:14 AM
QUOTE(ViperVette @ Mar 30 2006, 04:45 PM)
what cars is this ETM upgrade available for? Also, is there maybe like an official Volvo website that explains what is up with the ETM, and what they are changing?
Go to: http://vexedvolvo.org/
It gives a detailed explanation of the problem and fix, etc.
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I really don't see the purpose of RE 155. Other than Volvo delaying the time to replace the ETM and costing Volvo more money at the end. Couple of days ago, I did a RE155 on a car. The car ran fairly well with no ETM code. I did the download test drive the car for 5 miles, ran great with no problem. Then the customer drove it home and the car stalled out two times. Drove the car back, there were no ETM codes in the computer. But we replace the ETM anyway. That fixed the stalling problem but the car surging at idle. Still no code in the computer, then I was told to install another ETM and the same thing happened. After further test I figured out it was the MAF that's causing the problem. So of course we tried to tell the customer that. But he didn't buy it so at the end we fixed his problem for free. I can't tell you who pay for the $300 MAF but it wasn't me.
So from then on I was told fix any possible ETM problem first before doing the download. So what's the point of doing the download if the problem already "fixed"?
I agree with you guys Volvo really need to just "fix it right the first time".
So from then on I was told fix any possible ETM problem first before doing the download. So what's the point of doing the download if the problem already "fixed"?
I agree with you guys Volvo really need to just "fix it right the first time".
I don't own a Volvo yet but I work on one everyday.
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Posted 05 May 2006 - 05:50 PM
Guys,
Just an update.....my UPsolute chip was wiped clean after the dealer downloaded the ETM software.
Sent my ECU to the local UPsolute rep, for the rechip, at no charge.
As soon as I received the ECU, I drove to Pittsburgh Pa for the Easter holidays.
I drive to Pit twice a year, its exactly 778mi from my driveway in Atl to my folks driveway in Pit.
It take about 2 tanks going and 1 and 3/4 returning.....With the 155 reprogram the car gets better gas mileage. Going to Pit i arrived with the guage showing 4 gallon....Returning to Atl the guage reading was 6 gallon.
I use 93 octane and i drive as fast as i think i can get away with, very few cars pass me.
Which brings up another point....the car is definitely faster, when i hit kickdown the car jumps, didn't have that speed before the ETM software.
I'm HAPPY with the results
Just an update.....my UPsolute chip was wiped clean after the dealer downloaded the ETM software.
Sent my ECU to the local UPsolute rep, for the rechip, at no charge.
As soon as I received the ECU, I drove to Pittsburgh Pa for the Easter holidays.
I drive to Pit twice a year, its exactly 778mi from my driveway in Atl to my folks driveway in Pit.
It take about 2 tanks going and 1 and 3/4 returning.....With the 155 reprogram the car gets better gas mileage. Going to Pit i arrived with the guage showing 4 gallon....Returning to Atl the guage reading was 6 gallon.
I use 93 octane and i drive as fast as i think i can get away with, very few cars pass me.
Which brings up another point....the car is definitely faster, when i hit kickdown the car jumps, didn't have that speed before the ETM software.
I'm HAPPY with the results
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Posted 06 May 2006 - 05:03 PM
Just got mine done...
There wasn't that big of a difference, but from what i could tell...it just doesn't have the same "pick-up" it used to when i gun it from a stop.
Maybe it's because i was used to the 2.5T S60 they gave me to drive around while it was in the shop
I was so bored i washed the dealer's loaner
There wasn't that big of a difference, but from what i could tell...it just doesn't have the same "pick-up" it used to when i gun it from a stop.
Maybe it's because i was used to the 2.5T S60 they gave me to drive around while it was in the shop
I was so bored i washed the dealer's loaner
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 06:36 PM
I had the RE 155 done during a 120k maintenance. The car feels smoother, but way slower (it won't accelerate so swiftly in high RPMs). It might be just a subjective feeling; or the adaptive logic hasn't learned my style, yet. 
However, the engine has stalled since the ugrade once already (once in ~ 200 miles, after a long drive). I feel no surge (the MAF was replaced 3k miles ago), idling is smooth; only when stopping the RPMs sometimes drop to 500. One more stall and the car goes back to the dealer ...
However, the engine has stalled since the ugrade once already (once in ~ 200 miles, after a long drive). I feel no surge (the MAF was replaced 3k miles ago), idling is smooth; only when stopping the RPMs sometimes drop to 500. One more stall and the car goes back to the dealer ...
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 10:18 PM
I can't believe how much faster this car is since the 155 reprogram and the UPsolute rechip. Has anybody else with a chipped car and the ETM software experience this extra speed, especially on the high end ?
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Eibach springs, Koni FSDs, IPD sways, QBM end links, strut brace, Euro jewel headlights with 6000k HID kit
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Posted 27 May 2006 - 12:22 PM
Very pissed off sweed owner. I just talked to Ken from IPD in regards to them having a solution for updating my ECU. I was told several weeks ago by IPD to go ahead with the ETM recall and get it flashed. IPD said they would be working on a new upgrade to encorporate this download. Now IPD is saying the ETM download is a bogus fix, all it does is flash the ETM so that it won't throw checksum errors, i.e. no more check engine light due to throttle body. So all IPD will do is reflash my ECU to the way it was. Anyone else get this answer from other chip tuners? like RICA.
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Posted 27 May 2006 - 01:15 PM
QUOTE(BearC70R @ May 27 2006, 08:22 AM)
Now IPD is saying the ETM download is a bogus fix, all it does is flash the ETM so that it won't throw checksum errors, i.e. no more check engine light due to throttle body.
... and no replacement of throttle body covered by warranty unless there are codes in the computer...
That's a fraud.
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Posted 27 May 2006 - 01:26 PM
QUOTE(Petr @ May 27 2006, 09:15 AM)
... and no replacement of throttle body covered by warranty unless there are codes in the computer...
That's a fraud.
That's a fraud.
Wow....VolFord strikes again!
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Posted 01 June 2006 - 12:16 PM
QUOTE(BearC70R @ May 27 2006, 08:22 AM)
Very pissed off sweed owner. I just talked to Ken from IPD in regards to them having a solution for updating my ECU. I was told several weeks ago by IPD to go ahead with the ETM recall and get it flashed. IPD said they would be working on a new upgrade to encorporate this download. Now IPD is saying the ETM download is a bogus fix, all it does is flash the ETM so that it won't throw checksum errors, i.e. no more check engine light due to throttle body. So all IPD will do is reflash my ECU to the way it was. Anyone else get this answer from other chip tuners? like RICA.
Can anyone else put any truth to this theory?
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QUOTE(Tripp Mcnealy @ Jun 1 2006, 12:16 PM)
Can anyone else put any truth to this theory?
Yes i can, 1999 T5 V70, was stuttering slightly/surging on the motorway (im in the UK)....went to the dealer they gave me the ETM software upgrade..
Drove 100 miles and still stuttering, stopped car, unloaded then drove another 40 miles and the check engine light came on. Went straight to dealer...diagnosed new ETM, car did NOT go into safe mode at all.
Thats my experience in the UK
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Posted 30 June 2006 - 08:56 PM
Got my 2001 C70 HPT back from the dealer for the upgrade. I too did not think anything of it but when I pulled out of the dealership it seemed to have a little less turbo lag and a smoother pull from the low end. 
Very nice! Today I put in new plugs and an Eurosport cold air intake. I'll keep you posted.
Very nice! Today I put in new plugs and an Eurosport cold air intake. I'll keep you posted.
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I had mine done about a month ago and noticed a little difference in taking off but the car still has hesitation when accelerating hard. It was tuned up, new fuel filter, K&N air filter and plugs just before the upgrade and neither thing changed the hisitation. I don't have a code reader so I can't check for any. I haven't taken it back to haggle about an ETM yet and after reading these posts hope that will even be the fix. I also agree that it is just a way for them to stall on replacing the ETM's by changing the way the computer reacts to poor ETM performance, but that's just my theory.
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Posted 12 July 2006 - 09:08 PM
been about a month since my upgrade and the improved throttle response across the powerband has been counterbalanced only by my decreased fuel economy.
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Posted 17 July 2006 - 09:58 PM
The hesitation is supposed to be there, it keeps you from spinning the wheels.
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 09:23 PM
its not just a ETM upgrade....it upgrades the ECM as part of the software...its one number for 2 controllers.
but yeah, it dumbs the computer up so its not as likely to throw codes for the ETM.
and the ETM is not a recall...its a warranty extension. if you have no problem, why should they give you something for free?
but yeah, it dumbs the computer up so its not as likely to throw codes for the ETM.
and the ETM is not a recall...its a warranty extension. if you have no problem, why should they give you something for free?
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When I perform recall 155 I download the software If there is a white sticker on the ETM I try to get it covered (white sticker are early ones) One of the problems, the PCV system when the system gets clogged usually from lack of maintance, oil gets into the intake system causing the ETM to get loaded with oil. As far as performance maybe <_< but the download is only for the ETM SN 30677023.. So many of these cars has new ETM's and will have a yellow sticker on them..
Let's get the story straight. The Service Campaign 155, the update of the ECM and ETM software, is for ALL Volvo of 1999 through 2001 and some 2002 models,with the Magnetti Marelli electronic software, all part numbers including the yellow sticker 8644347. This is all covered in Tech Net Notes 25-149A. There is no charge. In general the software makes the ETM computer less sensitive to small disturbances. When you reload the software is sets all parameters back to the original performance settings, thus more pep. As you drive is learns your driving habits.
The software is a good update and it is recommended by the investigator at The National Highway Traffic Safety Administrator. If you are having ETM problem and the software does NOT fix the problem let NHTSA know.
The software does NOT fix the problem, the wearing out of the throttle position sensor, anymore than a software update to the ABS system would fix the brake pads from wearing out. It just makes the car run better until the final ETM failure.
For more than you probably want to know go to http://VEXEDvolvo.org. If you want to get on my mailing list, already over 500 in 26 countries, send an email to VEXEDvolvo@comcast.net. I will be sending out and posting a detailed description of what the software upgrade does, it will be a week or so.
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QUOTE(Don Willson @ Aug 2 2006, 04:16 PM)
Let's get the story straight. The Service Campaign 155, the update of the ECM and ETM software, is for ALL Volvo of 1999 through 2001 and some 2002 models,with the Magnetti Marelli electronic software, all part numbers including the yellow sticker 8644347. This is all covered in Tech Net Notes 25-149A. There is no charge. In general the software makes the ETM computer less sensitive to small disturbances. When you reload the software is sets all parameters back to the original performance settings, thus more pep. As you drive is learns your driving habits.
The software is a good update and it is recommended by the investigator at The National Highway Traffic Safety Administrator. If you are having ETM problem and the software does NOT fix the problem let NHTSA know.
The software does NOT fix the problem, the wearing out of the throttle position sensor, anymore than a software update to the ABS system would fix the brake pads from wearing out. It just makes the car run better until the final ETM failure.
For more than you probably want to know go to http://VEXEDvolvo.org. If you want to get on my mailing list, already over 500 in 26 countries, send an email to VEXEDvolvo@comcast.net. I will be sending out and posting a detailed description of what the software upgrade does, it will be a week or so.
Don Willson
The software is a good update and it is recommended by the investigator at The National Highway Traffic Safety Administrator. If you are having ETM problem and the software does NOT fix the problem let NHTSA know.
The software does NOT fix the problem, the wearing out of the throttle position sensor, anymore than a software update to the ABS system would fix the brake pads from wearing out. It just makes the car run better until the final ETM failure.
For more than you probably want to know go to http://VEXEDvolvo.org. If you want to get on my mailing list, already over 500 in 26 countries, send an email to VEXEDvolvo@comcast.net. I will be sending out and posting a detailed description of what the software upgrade does, it will be a week or so.
Don Willson
welcome, and well said Don.
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