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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:27 PM

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:42 PM

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Whoever started this signature thing, you're a real douchebag. I think it's interesting that while some people (namely, regular members) have had their sigs resized, others *cough* Kevin *cough* still have 633x282 pix images. And that's the only one I've noticed, I'm sure there are more.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:42 PM

well that was a rather extensive rant!
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE(paulr @ Jan 11 2007, 04:53 PM) View Post
Whoever started this signature thing, you're a real douchebag. I think it's interesting that while some people (namely, regular members) have had their sigs resized, others *cough* Kevin *cough* still have 633x282 pix images. And that's the only one I've noticed, I'm sure there are more.

This issue has been brought up before, and the consensus has always been those with bandwidth issues / small screens need to turn off signature images in the control panel, or turn on image resizing / turn off browser images. I personally run two screens, one at 2048x1436 and another at 1600x1200, and I personally don't give a shit if someone stuck running at 800x600 has an issue because my sig is 700pix wide. I totally agree with a noobhammer for those who take a shitty 800x600 bitmap and set that as their signature, but a finite pixel count is really extreme. Who gives a shit if it's eleven pixels too high? That's half a percent of my screen, I'll deal. Besides, many people's sigs are much longer due to their mod format, with a new line after each mod.
This is funny because #1 you're the one dodging work, and #2 unless your sysadmin has a brain the size of a pea, he knows exactly what you're doing. However, he's probably more worried about the guy downloading malware and looking at porn on company time, if he's not actually fixing problems. I work for a company, less than 20 people, and we log EVERYTHING. What you print, where you go, when you log on, when you change your password, what files you access. It's very interesting to look through. If you don't want your coworkers to see you fucking around, then at least have the sense to go into your control panel and turn off sigs, or images in your browser.
Seriously. Even on my tablet (1024x768) the sigs aren't that bad, and when I'm on a low bandwidth connection like my cellphone or something, I'll just turn off images. C'mon people, this really isn't that hard.
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I'm done with this issue, is 600x150 is the final size, then if I ever get around to making another sig, I'll consider that. However, the fact that time and energy was devoted to something so petty does say a lot.

First off moron, I sent you a PM. Second, this was spearheaded by the admins, including Chuck, and myself. Don't like it, then too damn bad. As said before, it's a simple request and you were given ample time to comply. You failed to comply so a reminder was placed in your sig. If that's too much for you to handle, then you need to look back at your life and figure out where it went so wrong and what made you so uptight that you cry about having your little precious sig changed. You can put it right back up, just in the correct size format. So, in closing: grow up, shut up, and change your sig.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:45 PM

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:48 PM

PaulR...you're an idiot.

Maybe if you had an idea about what was going on around here , you would realize kevin wasnt around to change it..and look now.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE(paulr @ Jan 11 2007, 04:53 PM) View Post
Whoever started this signature thing, you're a real douchebag. I think it's interesting that while some people (namely, regular members) have had their sigs resized, others *cough* Kevin *cough* still have 633x282 pix images. And that's the only one I've noticed, I'm sure there are more.

This issue has been brought up before, and the consensus has always been those with bandwidth issues / small screens need to turn off signature images in the control panel, or turn on image resizing / turn off browser images. I personally run two screens, one at 2048x1436 and another at 1600x1200, and I personally don't give a stuff if someone stuck running at 800x600 has an issue because my sig is 700pix wide. I totally agree with a noobhammer for those who take a shitty 800x600 bitmap and set that as their signature, but a finite pixel count is really extreme. Who gives a stuff if it's eleven pixels too high? That's half a percent of my screen, I'll deal. Besides, many people's sigs are much longer due to their mod format, with a new line after each mod.
This is funny because #1 you're the one dodging work, and #2 unless your sysadmin has a brain the size of a pea, he knows exactly what you're doing. However, he's probably more worried about the guy downloading malware and looking at porn on company time, if he's not actually fixing problems. I work for a company, less than 20 people, and we log EVERYTHING. What you print, where you go, when you log on, when you change your password, what files you access. It's very interesting to look through. If you don't want your coworkers to see you poking around, then at least have the sense to go into your control panel and turn off sigs, or images in your browser.
Seriously. Even on my tablet (1024x768) the sigs aren't that bad, and when I'm on a low bandwidth connection like my cellphone or something, I'll just turn off images. C'mon people, this really isn't that hard.
True VS isn't a democracy. But the mods are supposed to be here for a better user experience, not to go around fulfilling napoleon complexes, or to make up for not making team captain in high school. If it's not about making the average user's experience markedly better (like getting rid of offensive posts, flames, spam, idiots), the mods should just leave it the hell alone. This isn't THEIR website, only one man can claim that, and I haven't seen him play any part in this (... maybe I missed something?).

I'm done with this issue, is 600x150 is the final size, then if I ever get around to making another sig, I'll consider that. However, the fact that time and energy was devoted to something so petty does say a lot.






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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:00 PM

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First off moron, I sent you a PM. Second, this was spearheaded by the admins, including Chuck, and myself. Don't like it, then too damn bad. As said before, it's a simple request and you were given ample time to comply. You failed to comply so a reminder was placed in your sig. If that's too much for you to handle, then you need to look back at your life and figure out where it went so wrong and what made you so uptight that you cry about having your little precious sig changed. You can put it right back up, just in the correct size format. So, in closing: grow up, shut up, and change your sig.
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I replied your PM, didn't need to bring it back into the thread, but whatever. There are many issues here - for those of us who only use RSS feeds, we never saw the damn memo. Only noticed when our sig was changed. Kinda a kick in the nuts to go from a nice pic of your car to "idiot", with no warning. The point is, setting some specific guideline, "600x150", is really absurd. kB, overall size, or area are all much better ideas if you're dead set on an official rule. A general "anti-large-sig" guideline is much better. There are many well-formated, aesthetic sigs, that happen to be just out of this guideline. Reason I brought up Kevin's sig was because it looked nice, and he formated his text (one line) to accommodate it. When I redid my sig from my old size to the new one, I got rid of three lines of text so my sig was the same size overall.

re: me putting up a fight, I have issue with people changing my shit, especially for no damn good reason. If someone re-parked my car because I wasn't quite centered between the lines, I'd also be pretty pissed. I was maybe 60pix over? I'm glad the admin's all came to consensus, and it's swell you all decided this is now official policy. Still doesn't mean it was necessary or wise, or handled properly regarding those who didn't change their sigs.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:11 PM

QUOTE(paulr @ Jan 11 2007, 06:00 PM) View Post
I replied your PM, didn't need to bring it back into the thread, but whatever. There are many issues here - for those of us who only use RSS feeds, we never saw the damn memo. Only noticed when our sig was changed. Kinda a kick in the nuts to go from a nice pic of your car to "idiot", with no warning. The point is, setting some specific guideline, "600x150", is really absurd. kB, overall size, or area are all much better ideas if you're dead set on an official rule. A general "anti-large-sig" guideline is much better. There are many well-formated, aesthetic sigs, that happen to be just out of this guideline. Reason I brought up Kevin's sig was because it looked nice, and he formated his text (one line) to accommodate it. When I redid my sig from my old size to the new one, I got rid of three lines of text so my sig was the same size overall.

re: me putting up a fight, I have issue with people changing my shit, especially for no damn good reason. If someone re-parked my car because I wasn't quite centered between the lines, I'd also be pretty pissed. I was maybe 60pix over? I'm glad the admin's all came to consensus, and it's swell you all decided this is now official policy. Still doesn't mean it was necessary or wise, or handled properly regarding those who didn't change their sigs.

So it's OUR fault, that you use RSS feeds and never read the News forum? I don't think so, that's all on you. It's not our fault you didn't read, 1. the great big announcement post at the top of EVERY FORUM, and 2. the news forum. I personally feel that 600x150 is still too big, you don't hear me crying about how they need to be even smaller do you? If you make an offensive post, it will be edited. Are you going to cry about that too?
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:11 PM

Most Message boards have limits on sig sizes. The ones I've been on have often also had a limit on the file size (But i dont remember the number of KBs)

If you don't like it, it's been said, you can leave.

Just be glad this place exisits and follow the rules that are made.

Greg didn't make the rule, it said they all decided on it. he's just the one who posted the notice of it.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:30 PM

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So it's OUR fault, that you use RSS feeds and never read the News forum? I don't think so, that's all on you. It's not our fault you didn't read, 1. the great big announcement post at the top of EVERY FORUM, and 2. the news forum. I personally feel that 600x150 is still too big, you don't hear me crying about how they need to be even smaller do you? If you make an offensive post, it will be edited. Are you going to cry about that too?


No, I've had several posts edited, but because they WERE offensive. I self-edited my rant to remove some of the direct insults in it, and if you want to clean that up even more, great. That's fine, that's what mods are for. Not to be picture-size nazi's, because some jpeg is a few pixels too big. There's no way that's hurting / offending anyone. I made my rant, and I'm done with this. Half the time I don't even run a sig, so I'm not going to bother making a new one right now. Flat-out removing people's sigs as opposed to replacing them with something offensive would have been much better from a PR standpoint, but whatever, what's done is done. Word filter bothered me too, so I paid the $15 fee, and no more "is that a word, let me check" or whatever the hell it does these days. For the record, I don't actually want people's sigs to be bigger, I just don't think it's the admin team's business, especially if they're not hosting the images. There are methods in place not to show people's sigs, and beyond that, the choice should be left to the users.

Regarding me not reading your memo and it being my "fault", yes, that is on you guys, too. Not everyone on here actively concerns themselves with the running of this board, as we're too busy doing things. It's not like you replaced it with a benign message. I've already stated my position on this, and I'm not going to waste any more time with it. It's done, you guys made it law, I think it's bullshit, many people agree with you, perhaps a few agree with me - whatever - it's not worth the time and attention it's getting anymore.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:44 PM

QUOTE(paulr @ Jan 11 2007, 06:30 PM) View Post
No, I've had several posts edited, but because they WERE offensive. I self-edited my rant to remove some of the direct insults in it, and if you want to clean that up even more, great. That's fine, that's what mods are for. Not to be picture-size nazi's, because some jpeg is a few pixels too big. There's no way that's hurting / offending anyone. I made my rant, and I'm done with this. Half the time I don't even run a sig, so I'm not going to bother making a new one right now. Flat-out removing people's sigs as opposed to replacing them with something offensive would have been much better from a PR standpoint, but whatever, what's done is done. Word filter bothered me too, so I paid the $15 fee, and no more "is that a word, let me check" or whatever the hell it does these days. For the record, I don't actually want people's sigs to be bigger, I just don't think it's the admin team's business, especially if they're not hosting the images. There are methods in place not to show people's sigs, and beyond that, the choice should be left to the users.

Regarding me not reading your memo and it being my "fault", yes, that is on you guys, too. Not everyone on here actively concerns themselves with the running of this board, as we're too busy doing things. It's not like you replaced it with a benign message. I've already stated my position on this, and I'm not going to waste any more time with it. It's done, you guys made it law, I think it's bullshit, many people agree with you, perhaps a few agree with me - whatever - it's not worth the time and attention it's getting anymore.

Sorry, but you're wrong. It isn't our fault you're too lazy to read the news forum, time for you to admit it. Want to know why most agree with us? It's because it's such a minute thing to be getting pissed off about. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 02:33 AM

QUOTE(gdizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 11:44 PM) View Post
Sorry, but you're wrong. It isn't our fault you're too lazy to read the news forum, time for you to admit it. Want to know why most agree with us? It's because it's such a minute thing to be getting pissed off about. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.


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Posted 12 January 2007 - 05:51 AM

QUOTE(gdizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 02:42 PM) View Post
First off moron, I sent you a PM. Second, this was spearheaded by the admins, including Chuck, and myself. As said before, it's a simple request and you were given ample time to comply. You failed to comply so a reminder was placed in your sig.



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Posted 12 January 2007 - 07:38 AM

This thread is funny.

I don't even have a sig pic, nor do I care about the size restriction. You know, some forums don't even allow pictures at all, or active links for that matter.

For anyone else who wants to whine about the way it was done, keep bitching! It's good for a laugh. laugh.gif
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 02:57 PM

seen one sig pic, seen 'em all. except grant's...
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(paulr @ Jan 11 2007, 06:30 PM) View Post
It's not like you replaced it with a benign message.


Not that I agree with the rest of his rant, but at least this part has some merit. A simple "please resize your image to ...." would've sufficed rather than the "you suck and you failed" message.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 04:04 PM

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Not that I agree with the rest of his rant, but at least this part has some merit. A simple "please resize your image to ...." would've sufficed rather than the "you suck and you failed" message.


But see, thats what makes it funny. I think the giant "FAILED" stamp in the background is perfect.

I hope people are over this, but hell this thread is pretty damn funny.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE(beachnut @ Jan 12 2007, 07:04 AM) View Post
Not that I agree with the rest of his rant, but at least this part has some merit. A simple "please resize your image to ...." would've sufficed rather than the "you suck and you failed" message.

I think the you suck part is pretty damn funny, but only after a request to down size has been sent, no compliance you get bitch slapped by Greg.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 10:14 PM

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I think the you suck part is pretty damn funny, but only after a request to down size has been sent, no compliance you get bitch slapped by Greg.[/quote]

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