pzorb

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  1. I've just checked mine - arrived yesterday. No fiddling to do, just fit and enjoy.
  2. That's an incredible price. I can't get them here for less than £550 give or take a few quid.
  3. I'm going with them because I don't need the hassle of adjusting my shocks, I just want them to be good always. Like making them one setting round town is cool, but then going onto the freeway later might ask a different setting - the point of the FSDs is to soak up the bumps when needed and send them to your butt when the fun's going on. Eibachs simply because I don't need the hassle of having to send them back. They'll work and they are tested. People tow with Eibachs. People road-race with them. I'll tell you how they work out. The butt-ometer won't be able to distinguish between 'better than OEM' & 'same as OEM' but will report 'better than 183k miles' and 'worse than 183k miles' :D
  4. KW. vv31tEc 4 Te|-| S|_|><0r, a|| yU0r 8aS3 aR3 83|0nG 2 |<0Ni :lol:
  5. For completeness this is the response I got from KW. Like all companies, with a little work you can always find a decent employee. My contact at KW/Weitec has been completely polite, considerate and helpful. -- -- So there you have it. Any ambiguity in the email was cleared up with a phone call today. He said it was quite possible that this inclusion has always been the case. Seriously thanks for hearing me out over here guys. I'm a guest on your forum, and appreciate being listened to. Hope I haven't ruined anybody's day, just spreading the Ovlov :)
  6. Maybe you got the Volvo Sport sachs stuff on originally. The shocks in the kit are base 850. check the link http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/produc...roducts_id=3532 Then look back at the part number in my photo on the first page. "Ref: 30.553058" edit: the same goes for the rear parts, I checked.
  7. OEM shocks, and springs that don't quite fit on either a saloon or a wagon. Bargain.
  8. Ok I have had both an email and a phonecall from KW. When I get back from work I will post the relevant parts of the email that confirm the following: 1) To keep production costs down on Volvo orders (as they are very infrequent 2-3%) they bundle Sachs shocks into the Kits. 2) These are completely OEM standard, not revalved, not re-engineered. 100% Stock. Like your regular 850 tdi, glt. 3) They will change their website's description which is misleading. So this "naive cross-ponder" will take his "cynicism" and get some Konis and his money back. If you think this is OK - cool. I'd be pissed for that dollar. In summary: Weitec = Stock shocks + lowering springs. Improve your handling for much less dollar at your OEM parts store. ;)
  9. I have heard from KW regarding this; before I comment further I will await until 11am Monday for their response to my communications.
  10. I'm expecting these parts in not this weekend but the next, so I'll post what I think that following week. I want to hear what Weitec have to say too, but I tried a GB with them a while back and offered them a pile of cold, hard cash and they didn't get back to me so... now I am was a paid up customer I'm not expecting too much - customer service ain't too hot. Chalk up another reason to miss the Weitecs :rolleyes:
  11. That's true. But Koni would have the decency to remove the OEM sticker and spray it a different colour. And if Koni mess up, guess what - they're being sent back too. The power is with the consumer, never forget that.
  12. LOL excellent relply greg I like it. We shall see if it is a scam or not, I'm sure I'll tell you if it is But one thing is for sure, with the FSDs I'm getting a bespoke product and springs designed for it; "Financial transparency" - I can see where my money has been spent.
  13. OK I rang Weitec in Germany today at 9am for an explanation. The guy was too busy to give me an answer on the phone, and said he'd email me. It's 6pm here, 7 in Germany and their phone line is now on answerphone. So I've given Weitec a whole working day to respond to this question and fight for their reputation with the 700+ people who have already read this thread, and they didn't bother getting back to me. My vendor is amazed too; Koni FSD and Eibachs are coming instead. PS I've got this really cool Martin Ultra Kit for $1000. It's a carefully matched spring and shock combo and really is the business. Any takers? :)
  14. Let's keep this on topic. There are personal/ignorant comments on either side, and none from me who started this thread. The issue here is Weitec.
  15. They are in my case. They're on that picture, check for yourself. So it's a bit odd, no?
  16. (LOL I can read). If you replace Eibach in my example with Weitec, you have the exact situation I am in. I was simplifying it for you using another manufacturer. Fine if you don't think it is an issue; I do and some other people on this thread agree. So that's cause enough to look into it. End of. Don't be offended if I don't agree with you, we just disagree. I understand what you're saying. Hands up, you're 100% that some people here can tell the difference. But everyone? I'm being cynical to question it sure, but with good reason - I have OEM stickers on my stuff. If these parts are OEM this isn't a kit, it's a bundle. There is a difference. If everyone was like "you so wrong englishman" then OK, but that's hasn't happened (and typing it now doesn't count ) Exactly.
  17. maybe. But if Eibach made a 'Super Awesome Lowering Kit' that was simply some Eibach Pro springs and the Volvo OEM struts and charged $800 for them, I'd consider that a bit of a scam. Business can be a scam. But it's still a scam The big IF is whether the shocks are indeed not OEM - that changes everything.
  18. No disrespect, but could that be down to the new springs? And fitting brand new stock shocks would feel stiffer than old worn ones, so I'm wondering if the kit's improvement actually is more than the sum of its parts as is being suggested with reengineering, or that there is a placebo effect going on by interpreting the improved handling not just as being better than before (you'd hope!) but above what it ever could have been with just stock replacement parts and a spring kit. See what I mean?
  19. It's a big leap of faith to assume the shocks are remanufactured when they leave all the OEM stuff on them. If their website talked about re-engineering then fine. Or if Sachs had anything to do with KW (I don't believe they're owned together) then one would think "ok they simply rehoused some stuff" but to get a box with clearly branded OEM parts and a few springs for good measure... for a lot more money... I'm not that trusting. I await Weitec to prove me wrong, and if they do great I'm wrong I can live with that (it's not a new experience for me lol). I just don't want to find out later I spent more than I needed to returning my car's handling back to the way it was when it came out the factory (which might have been awesome for all I know) when I had been expecting to purchase a true aftermarket product that changed my handling from the stock setup to something better. FFS If they'd just painted them another colour I'd have been happy LOL
  20. Let me just say that I haven't given Weitec themselves a chance to respond to this: it may be the case that the internals are modified. But even if they are they're not doing themselves favours by leaving the original OEM part numbers on there. I call it a scam 1) to get your attention and 2) to point out that if the struts are OEM - which hasn't been contested by Greg - then anyone buying this kit certainly in the UK is paying a premium of around £150 just for a box. And for £150 more I'd expect manufactured shocks, not just modded ones. Remember for less $100 you can buy FK, and for a few $$ more buy Koni FSD and Eibach (at least over here in sunny england with our strong pound). Either way now anyone searching for info on Weitec will at least have this info, which after doing a moderate amount myself managed to miss.
  21. I'm calling my vendor tomorrow and hopefully will have some Eibach & FSDs in - admittedly for a little more money - but for the $$$s the weitec kit cost me I'm wary of spending less! What do current Weitec owners think of this? A one off? Or have people been doing 'no brainer' upgrades back to OEM? :blink:
  22. That's cool man, I have no issues with you I'm just saying for the people like me who spent some time researching what suspension upgrades to get that this is my experience of Weitec. Thought you should all know that buying the Weitec F springs and sourcing the Sachs shocks, in my case, would have saved me big bucks and I would have had EXACTLY the same product. I think that's valuable comment?
  23. Well have a look at what turned up today people: Compare this zoomed pic with greg's right hand front shock and decide for yourself:
  24. Haha, my friend I can see that your shocks don't have the Sachs Super Touring sticker on them. I would say that if I peeled off my sachs sticker (still leaving the weitec one above it) I would suggest to you that they would then be *identical* to the ones in that photo. Right down to the cheap OEM sheath that covers the rear shock. edit: OMG you can actually SEE on your right front shock where the original Sachs sticker was peeled off!!!!!!!!!!!!
  25. Hey guys, I'm Martin from sunny England and am pzorb on volvot5.co.uk I just took delivery of the Weitec lowering kit, and the shocks are branded as Sachs Super Touring?! People, I can buy all the parts for this kit for around $200 cheaper and it'd be EXACTLY the same stuff. Has anyone else with Weitecs seen that the shocks in the kit are standard OEM volvo parts? Shocking! ;)