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Posted 20 October 2009 - 02:40 PM

what is happening now also

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:15 PM

View Post7 VII 7, on 20 October 2009 - 02:40 PM, said:

Pretty obvious, most media has been in the tank for a while.


I continue to be disturbed by the people Obama surrounds himself with. It now defines his personal intentions and political preferences.

Who was the knucklehead who said I shouldn't judge him by Ayres, Wright, or others he has had for company over the years? Thos elosers obviously shaped his attitude.

Mao as a philosophical reference? He killed more folks thru murder and collectivism than Hitler and Stalin combined.

Hugo Chavez is to be admired? ( Czar Mike Loyd)

CHe Guevera is a murderer on a tshirt.

ANd oh wait CAstro is nice guy?
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 09:36 AM

View Post7 VII 7, on 20 October 2009 - 02:40 PM, said:


honestly it just seemed like strategy for me. I would have no issue with people only wanting live interviews, in fact, I would be concerned if no live sessions were offered. Absolute control in this case I think makes sense -- your issues are your responsibility, why would you want to comment on something that wasn't in your hands?

This whole news article I think was taken out of context, the title of the article "Obama Team 'Controlled' Media Coverage" just is begging for people to think that if an issue wasn't what exactly the spin they wanted to be on TV the "Obama Team" would go kill someone or something.



I'll disclose that I voted for Obama because he was most in line with my political views.

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 01:39 PM

View PostJaxx, on 25 October 2009 - 09:36 AM, said:

honestly it just seemed like strategy for me. I would have no issue with people only wanting live interviews, in fact, I would be concerned if no live sessions were offered. Absolute control in this case I think makes sense -- your issues are your responsibility, why would you want to comment on something that wasn't in your hands?

This whole news article I think was taken out of context, the title of the article "Obama Team 'Controlled' Media Coverage" just is begging for people to think that if an issue wasn't what exactly the spin they wanted to be on TV the "Obama Team" would go kill someone or something.



I'll disclose that I voted for Obama because he was most in line with my political views.
The press is the only check the public has on govt. denial of access to information and questioning of policy is fundamental to keeping the bastards from seizing total power and control. We ignore most of the info and take it in the ass and ask for more all the time. To exclude a media outlet from a presser because they don't like the coverage smacks of state controlled media= Communism.

You are hiding something if you don't want full disclosure. fuck the "tactics" are you doing whats best for the country or are you doing whats best to keep you in power?
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 04:56 PM

View PostWINGNUT, on 25 October 2009 - 01:39 PM, said:

The press is the only check the public has on govt. denial of access to information and questioning of policy is fundamental to keeping the bastards from seizing total power and control. We ignore most of the info and take it in the ass and ask for more all the time. To exclude a media outlet from a presser because they don't like the coverage smacks of state controlled media= Communism.

You are hiding something if you don't want full disclosure. fuck the "tactics" are you doing whats best for the country or are you doing whats best to keep you in power?

you realize that the article has nothing to do with the presidency, right?

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 05:32 PM

View PostJaxx, on 25 October 2009 - 09:36 AM, said:

honestly it just seemed like strategy for me. I would have no issue with people only wanting live interviews, in fact, I would be concerned if no live sessions were offered. Absolute control in this case I think makes sense -- your issues are your responsibility, why would you want to comment on something that wasn't in your hands?

This whole news article I think was taken out of context, the title of the article "Obama Team 'Controlled' Media Coverage" just is begging for people to think that if an issue wasn't what exactly the spin they wanted to be on TV the "Obama Team" would go kill someone or something.



I'll disclose that I voted for Obama because he was most in line with my political views.
the whole "transparency" that Obama keeps talking about really is what bugs me about this article

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 12:59 AM


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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:38 AM

View Postgdizzle, on 26 October 2009 - 12:59 AM, said:


not surprised... democrats are scared of Fox News because it reports on things other news outlets do not... and stuff that would hurt their "point-of-view"

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 05:12 AM

View PostJaxx, on 25 October 2009 - 04:56 PM, said:

you realize that the article has nothing to do with the presidency, right?
But everything to do with manipulating information and perception in the White House.

But why would that have anything to do with the presidency? It's just his place of business and those folks only work for him. <_<
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:00 PM

Dad sent me these couple today...not sure on the first one....









Q: What's the difference between Obama and Hitler?
A: Hitler wrote his own book.






Q: What's another difference between Obama and Hitler?
A: Hitler got the Olympics to come to his country.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 04:19 PM

He's more Leninist.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 12:47 AM

So should we get some bets going as to whether the House Healthcare Plan will pass or fail? Or maybe it would be better to bet on when they will actually vote on it?

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 02:56 AM

Does anyone support him anymore?

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:50 PM

View Post7 VII 7, on 09 November 2009 - 02:56 AM, said:

Does anyone support him anymore?
most likely some of the people that voted for Obama just felt inspired and wanted to be a part of something so they voted for him without listening to what he was supporting.

also read a liberal opinion article talking about the rally that was held outside the capitol the week before the bill was voted on. the guy went on and on about how 5 people required medical attention during the rally and how the physicians on hand at the capitol building rushed to their aid and helped them. then he went on to refer to those incidents as basically how wonderful health care will be if the bill passes. :rolleyes:

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 10:40 PM

Tax The Rich
Its scary that some people think this way. "I want health care but i dont want to pay for it. Wait that person that makes more than me down the road should be forced to pay for my health care." ...Scary.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 03:26 AM

View PostSmithwicks, on 17 November 2009 - 10:40 PM, said:

Tax The Rich
Its scary that some people think this way. "I want health care but i dont want to pay for it. Wait that person that makes more than me down the road should be forced to pay for my health care." ...Scary.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 04:31 AM

i try to avoide this thread ....because when i read it i just get pissed off and not going to lie...kinda scared

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 01:51 PM

basically people that do well and make money get taxed so that lazy people who are poor can take advantage.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 02:16 PM

View Postmagicaljake, on 18 November 2009 - 04:31 AM, said:

i try to avoide this thread ....because when i read it i just get pissed off and not going to lie...kinda scared
Same, plus I don't follow the latest political news well enough.

View Post7 VII 7, on 18 November 2009 - 01:51 PM, said:

basically people that do well and make money get taxed so that lazy people who are poor can take advantage.
Ya, there's a name for that. But new Jesus and his disciples swear he isn't socialist.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 02:24 PM

I need a definition of "Rich". Anyone have an idea?


"Classical liberalism and direct democracy are not necessarily friends. Classical liberalism affirms the freedom of the individual and argues for just enough government to protect that freedom from enemies abroad and criminals at home. Direct democracy means the rule of a majority of those eligible to vote. If a majority of the people turns out to be thieves, liberalism and democracy fall out and a nation can fall into civil war."

I guess I'm a liberal.


Read Federalist #10. James Madison.
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