So, my engine threw a rod putting a quarter sized hole in my crankcase. I have purchased a used 2.3 T-5 OBDII with 90k on it. I am planning on using some of the parts from my prior engine, but I also want to replace/upgrade as well.
Concerning the Turbo - Should I completely replace the turbo with a 16T or just go to a ball-bearing model from someone else? (I know this will require a new downpipe.) OR should I just upgrade the impeller?
- What will fit and what work will be required.
Feel free to add your comments on what I should do (ie, Wires, injectors, etc.)
Thanks - Nat
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Posted 21 October 2004 - 09:50 PM
I say upgrade to a 16T or 19T. I'm just curious, what were you running to throw a rod anyway? If you're going to be putting it through that much abuse, I say rods need to be upgrades either with VMS ones or have the stock ones shotpeened.
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Posted 21 October 2004 - 09:53 PM
QUOTE(Flyby @ Oct 21 2004, 03:46 PM)
So, my engine threw a rod putting a quarter sized hole in my crankcase. I have purchased a used 2.3 T-5 OBDII with 90k on it. I am planning on using some of the parts from my prior engine, but I also want to replace/upgrade as well.
Concerning the Turbo - Should I completely replace the turbo with a 16T or just go to a ball-bearing model from someone else? (I know this will require a new downpipe.) OR should I just upgrade the impeller?
- What will fit and what work will be required.
Feel free to add your comments on what I should do (ie, Wires, injectors, etc.)
Thanks - Nat
Concerning the Turbo - Should I completely replace the turbo with a 16T or just go to a ball-bearing model from someone else? (I know this will require a new downpipe.) OR should I just upgrade the impeller?
- What will fit and what work will be required.
Feel free to add your comments on what I should do (ie, Wires, injectors, etc.)
Thanks - Nat
do u have an angled down pipe now w/ ur setup? i think u have a 15g rite? i thnk they are pretty much the same...imho....so dont throw money away on a new down pipe...just upgrade ur 15g while the car is down? maybe? oh and get a boost gauge....and just say "no" to hot women w/ std's?
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Posted 21 October 2004 - 10:10 PM
simple:
built internals = better turbo (gt, etc...)
stock internals = stock turbo (16t, 15g, 19t)
its all about the money you wanna spend.
built internals = better turbo (gt, etc...)
stock internals = stock turbo (16t, 15g, 19t)
its all about the money you wanna spend.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 01:29 AM
Well, I'm sure that through its life it took a beating between my brother and I, but it was stock, running at 65mph cruise control on the freeway and bang! I'm gonna take it real easy on her after this, I just want to see what there is available and if the engine is out... why not!
I don't have a bent downpipe... so you say upgrade stock turbo
--Thing is I want to get a downpipe anyways...
When it comes to internals... I am not so sure, the stuff is expensive!
--I know turbos are expensive, but not in relation
-----The one thing my brother and I have discussed is taking apart the engine and port/polishing the intake mani, and perhaps a cam grind.
Thanks guys
Brett, hot girls with std's are easy to say "no" to, it's the ones with kids that I have trouble stayin' away from!
I don't have a bent downpipe... so you say upgrade stock turbo
--Thing is I want to get a downpipe anyways...
When it comes to internals... I am not so sure, the stuff is expensive!
--I know turbos are expensive, but not in relation
-----The one thing my brother and I have discussed is taking apart the engine and port/polishing the intake mani, and perhaps a cam grind.
Thanks guys
Brett, hot girls with std's are easy to say "no" to, it's the ones with kids that I have trouble stayin' away from!
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 01:54 AM
19T can bend rods...
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:22 AM
QUOTE
Brett, hot girls with std's are easy to say "no" to, it's the ones with kids that I have trouble stayin' away from!
don't modify my quote ! j/k
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:41 AM
i dont see how people have problems bending rods with a 19t, ive had mine on running 19psi since ive had the car and no problems at all!!!
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:58 AM
Give it time 
QUOTE(odell1523 @ Oct 21 2004, 09:41 PM)
i dont see how people have problems bending rods with a 19t, ive had mine on running 19psi since ive had the car and no problems at all!!!
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 04:54 AM
QUOTE(odell1523 @ Oct 21 2004, 10:41 PM)
i dont see how people have problems bending rods with a 19t, ive had mine on running 19psi since ive had the car and no problems at all!!!
cause Bill was the tuner ; )
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 05:06 AM
exactly!
"Silver 850 t-5"
m56h swap, r clutch, 19t turbo
custom tuned ECU set at 19psi
optiflow intake,turboxs rfl bov w/ block off plate
reverse IC,aquamist 2d, 3" turboback(catless)
magnaflow stainless muffler
17" TSW eurace and 18" voxx forza(FOR SALE), H&R lowering springs
Bilstein yellow struts and shocks
Volvo Strut tower brace, carbon fiber cam cover
Sparco Milano racing seat
yet to install: FMIC KIT!
m56h swap, r clutch, 19t turbo
custom tuned ECU set at 19psi
optiflow intake,turboxs rfl bov w/ block off plate
reverse IC,aquamist 2d, 3" turboback(catless)
magnaflow stainless muffler
17" TSW eurace and 18" voxx forza(FOR SALE), H&R lowering springs
Bilstein yellow struts and shocks
Volvo Strut tower brace, carbon fiber cam cover
Sparco Milano racing seat
yet to install: FMIC KIT!
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 05:42 AM
since you'll have the block apart anyways, throw some Autoverdi rods in there and put a t3/t04 turbo on there 
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 05:57 AM
QUOTE(JHEIII850Turbo @ Oct 21 2004, 11:42 PM)
since you'll have the block apart anyways, throw some Autoverdi rods in there and put a t3/t04 turbo on there
totally second it!!!!!!!!!
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m56h swap, r clutch, 19t turbo
custom tuned ECU set at 19psi
optiflow intake,turboxs rfl bov w/ block off plate
reverse IC,aquamist 2d, 3" turboback(catless)
magnaflow stainless muffler
17" TSW eurace and 18" voxx forza(FOR SALE), H&R lowering springs
Bilstein yellow struts and shocks
Volvo Strut tower brace, carbon fiber cam cover
Sparco Milano racing seat
yet to install: FMIC KIT!
m56h swap, r clutch, 19t turbo
custom tuned ECU set at 19psi
optiflow intake,turboxs rfl bov w/ block off plate
reverse IC,aquamist 2d, 3" turboback(catless)
magnaflow stainless muffler
17" TSW eurace and 18" voxx forza(FOR SALE), H&R lowering springs
Bilstein yellow struts and shocks
Volvo Strut tower brace, carbon fiber cam cover
Sparco Milano racing seat
yet to install: FMIC KIT!
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 06:38 AM
Do the Autoverdi rods require any clearance? Also what kinda of replacement bearing comes with them? H beam correct? Also dont forget to have everything balanced.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:46 AM
QUOTE(Mesoam @ Oct 21 2004, 07:54 PM)
19T can bend rods...
Sloppy tuning and maintenance bends rods, not the 19T...
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 01:49 PM
QUOTE(Johann @ Oct 22 2004, 04:46 AM)
QUOTE(Mesoam @ Oct 21 2004, 07:54 PM)
19T can bend rods...
Sloppy tuning and maintenance bends rods, not the 19T...
yep...who all on here has bent rods with the 19t?
"Silver 850 t-5"
m56h swap, r clutch, 19t turbo
custom tuned ECU set at 19psi
optiflow intake,turboxs rfl bov w/ block off plate
reverse IC,aquamist 2d, 3" turboback(catless)
magnaflow stainless muffler
17" TSW eurace and 18" voxx forza(FOR SALE), H&R lowering springs
Bilstein yellow struts and shocks
Volvo Strut tower brace, carbon fiber cam cover
Sparco Milano racing seat
yet to install: FMIC KIT!
m56h swap, r clutch, 19t turbo
custom tuned ECU set at 19psi
optiflow intake,turboxs rfl bov w/ block off plate
reverse IC,aquamist 2d, 3" turboback(catless)
magnaflow stainless muffler
17" TSW eurace and 18" voxx forza(FOR SALE), H&R lowering springs
Bilstein yellow struts and shocks
Volvo Strut tower brace, carbon fiber cam cover
Sparco Milano racing seat
yet to install: FMIC KIT!
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 02:30 PM
Consider the recent post about the 18T (do a search).
It might be the best in-between choice if you don't want to go into the motor, which sounds like your preference.
It's so very expensive and it breaks the motor's Karma if you know what I mean.
It might be the best in-between choice if you don't want to go into the motor, which sounds like your preference.
It's so very expensive and it breaks the motor's Karma if you know what I mean.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:03 PM
QUOTE(odell1523 @ Oct 22 2004, 08:49 AM)
QUOTE(Johann @ Oct 22 2004, 04:46 AM)
QUOTE(Mesoam @ Oct 21 2004, 07:54 PM)
19T can bend rods...
Sloppy tuning and maintenance bends rods, not the 19T...
yep...who all on here has bent rods with the 19t?
i've never bent rods with my 19T, never bent them even with a 15G . . . .
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Posted 26 October 2004 - 01:24 AM
Where do I get these Autoverdi Rods, because nothing comes up on google. Secondly, I'm looking at what.... 600-800 for a T4-TO3???
I couldn't find the write up on the 18T, because 18T is only three letters.... bah!
Right now we are working on getting the current engine out and cleaning up the new engine...
Thanks guys
I couldn't find the write up on the 18T, because 18T is only three letters.... bah!
Right now we are working on getting the current engine out and cleaning up the new engine...
Thanks guys
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Posted 26 October 2004 - 01:25 AM
Try 200-300 for a t3t04
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