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[Noahkk19]

Just watched TV and of all the votes that are in right now, they're saying he's up by 1 million.

This is gonna make me so happy when I can shove it in the faces of all the little girls at my school yelling out KERRY KERRY KERRYYYYY, pretending to be political buffs.

[theunderlord]

Just watched TV and of all the votes that are in right now, they're saying he's up by 1 million.

This is gonna make me so happy when I can shove it in the faces of all the little girls at my school yelling out KERRY KERRY KERRYYYYY, pretending to be political buffs.

didn't we learn our lesson about declaring the winner early 4 years ago...

[Noahkk19]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME

What's the point of voting if the electoral votes are the only ones that count?

[J0E]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME

What's the point of voting if the electoral votes are the only ones that count?

How are you going to determine who the electoral votes go to if you don't vote?

[Noahkk19]

So basically the majority votes determine the electoral votes from state to state?...

[theunderlord]

So basically the majority votes determine the electoral votes from state to state?...

ding ding ding! It's a stupid concept huh? Needs to be changed!

[theunderlord]

Why dont you understand that it spilts the benifits AND the drawbacks of popular vote and nullifies the extremes? Im not saying there shouldn't be some revisions to the system, but it does work.

Lets put it htis way, if you dont live in CA, FL, NY, and a handful of other states populations could easily out number the majority of states in this country.

Doug, I do understand, my point was change, not necessarily abandonment of the current system.

[Noahkk19]

man so much ignorance.

Noah, I have to say, Im a little annoyed that the news are even calling the states right now. lol morons.

see, its really pretty useless to read to much into it right now. Declaring states w/ only ONE percent votes accounted for? lol come on

haha, wow, now that you've made me aware of that...that's pretty darn ridiculous to be reporting

[Noahkk19]

I can easily say that most of the stuff you guys talk about (98% of things) I have no clue of...at 1st. Seems like my only job here is to read and learn . haha.

But why is this whole electoral vote thing decided over simply just counting ever single last vote and declaring a winner? Don't get me wrong I'm glad electoral votes are what matter, I'm just trying to get the whole concept nailed down in full.

[theunderlord]

I can easily say that most of the stuff you guys talk about (98% of things) I have no clue of...at 1st. Seems like my only job here is to read and learn . haha.

But why is this whole electoral vote thing decided over simply just counting ever single last vote and declaring a winner? Don't get me wrong I'm glad electoral votes are what matter, I'm just trying to get the whole concept nailed down in full.

Noah, your high school history teacher would be pissed right now!

The quick story is, that way state with higher populations get more "representation" ... Take Congress for example; In The House of Representatives.. more population = more Representatives.. The Senate = each state gets two reps.

[Noahkk19]

I can easily say that most of the stuff you guys talk about (98% of things) I have no clue of...at 1st. Seems like my only job here is to read and learn . haha.

But why is this whole electoral vote thing decided over simply just counting ever single last vote and declaring a winner? Don't get me wrong I'm glad electoral votes are what matter, I'm just trying to get the whole concept nailed down in full.

Noah, your high school history teacher would be pissed right now!

The quick story is, that way state with higher populations get more "representation" ... Take Congress for example; In The House of Representatives.. more population = more Representatives.. The Senate = each state gets two reps.

Atlanta inner-city school...How much do you think I learn?

haha YOU guys are voting for MY eductation, help me out. V0t3 or D133!!!!111!!

Edited by NoahKK17, 03 November 2004 - 03:34 AM.

[theunderlord]

Atlanta inner-city school...How much do you think I learn?

haha YOU guys are voting for MY eductation, help me out. V0t3 or D133!!!!111!!

[gdizzle]

How the Electoral College Works
The current workings of the Electoral College are the result of both design and experience. As it now operates:

Each State is allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives (which may change each decade according to the size of each State's population as determined in the Census).
The political parties (or independent candidates) in each State submit to the State's chief election official a list of individuals pledged to their candidate for president and equal in number to the State's electoral vote. Usually, the major political parties select these individuals either in their State party conventions or through appointment by their State party leaders while third parties and independent candidates merely designate theirs.
Members of Congress and employees of the federal government are prohibited from serving as an Elector in order to maintain the balance between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.
After their caucuses and primaries, the major parties nominate their candidates for president and vice president in their national conventions
traditionally held in the summer preceding the election. (Third parties and independent candidates follow different procedures according to the individual State laws). The names of the duly nominated candidates are then officially submitted to each State's chief election official so that they might appear on the general election ballot.

On the Tuesday following the first Monday of November in years divisible by four, the people in each State cast their ballots for the party slate of Electors representing their choice for president and vice president (although as a matter of practice, general election ballots normally say "Electors for" each set of candidates rather than list the individual Electors on each slate).
Whichever party slate wins the most popular votes in the State becomes that State's Electors-so that, in effect, whichever presidential ticket gets the most popular votes in a State wins all the Electors of that State. [The two exceptions to this are Maine and Nebraska where two Electors are chosen by statewide popular vote and the remainder by the popular vote within each Congressional district].
On the Monday following the second Wednesday of December (as established in federal law) each State's Electors meet in their respective State capitals and cast their electoral votes-one for president and one for vice president.
In order to prevent Electors from voting only for "favorite sons" of their home State, at least one of their votes must be for a person from outside their State (though this is seldom a problem since the parties have consistently nominated presidential and vice presidential candidates from different States).
The electoral votes are then sealed and transmitted from each State to the President of the Senate who, on the following January 6, opens and reads them before both houses of the Congress.
The candidate for president with the most electoral votes, provided that it is an absolute majority (one over half of the total), is declared president. Similarly, the vice presidential candidate with the absolute majority of electoral votes is declared vice president.
In the event no one obtains an absolute majority of electoral votes for president, the U.S. House of Representatives (as the chamber closest to the people) selects the president from among the top three contenders with each State casting only one vote and an absolute majority of the States being required to elect. Similarly, if no one obtains an absolute majority for vice president, then the U.S. Senate makes the selection from among the top two contenders for that office.
At noon on January 20, the duly elected president and vice president are sworn into office.
Occasionally questions arise about what would happen if the pesidential or vice presidential candidate died at some point in this process.For answers to these, as well as to a number of other "what if" questions, readers are advised to consult a small volume entitled After the People Vote: Steps in Choosing the President edited by Walter Berns and published in 1983 by the American Enterprise Institute. Similarly, further details on the history and current functioning of the Electoral College are available in the second edition of Congressional Quarterly's Guide to U.S. Elections, a real goldmine of information, maps, and statistics.

[Noahkk19]

I see the light
haha
Thanks Greg

[VS Legend]

FLA + OH = All that matter now.

[gdizzle]

See what I mean, I "entertain" the GF for a bit, when I started, it was 206-207 now its 269-207

ahh how things change

VIVA BUSH!!!