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#21 SIXER

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 09:22 PM

yah i'm getting all the genuine volvo parts off of them.
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Posted 07 May 2009 - 09:56 PM

ok im looking at tensioners on fcp and it says with mechanical tensioner,also says 98-00 so how do i no what my car has?
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 05:04 AM

bought all my stuff from fcp
their stuff is fine
cut the timing belt to get it off
never reuse a timing belt

the hardest part of doing the timing belt and accessory job is not stripping the 45 torx iirc on the tensioner pulley
and getting the waterpump with the gasket and everything in correctly
everyone says it's easy to get the tensioner pulley off, and that they do it high and drunk while watching oprah blah blah blah
but it's not really that easy, it's not the hardest thing i've ever done on the car but still
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 12:35 PM

are you sure you got all OEM parts?

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE (johnloves850's @ May 8 2009, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the hardest part of doing the timing belt and accessory job is not stripping the 45 torx iirc on the tensioner pulley
and getting the waterpump with the gasket and everything in correctly
everyone says it's easy to get the tensioner pulley off, and that they do it high and drunk while watching oprah blah blah blah
but it's not really that easy, it's not the hardest thing i've ever done on the car but still

is it just me or has everybody stopped using punctuation lol the tb tensioner pulley is a snap to get off with my new invention lol i call it the tb t45 breaker bar lol u will see them on ebay soon along with my serp belt tool lol




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Posted 08 May 2009 - 12:57 PM

uhhhh

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 01:01 PM

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uhhhh

You know you want one.
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (a2matt @ May 8 2009, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know you want one.

no... I used a craftsman t45 with the end of a 17mm angled wrench

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE (a2matt @ May 8 2009, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
is it just me or has everybody stopped using punctuation lol

No, I still do, and majority of others too! Without proper gramma, I just skim through. Can't be bothered but I just had to respond to yours!

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:07 PM

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that would have helped
yea i don't use punctuation because i clarify the end of a statement by skipping to the next line
like that

when people write like this and then never skip a line and you don't know when the end of their sentence is it's annoying i can't understand where the statement starts and ends not to mention it's hard to comprehend because it's just like a second grader's run on sentence i feel it's easier to just skip to the next line so someone reading what i'm trying to say doesn't have to skim through all this crap to get to what i'm trying to actually say and get an idea of my main thesis

yea it's annoying when you don't use punctuation or a defined way of showing a new sentence
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 10:44 PM



Yes, this definitely would have helped me...I broke 3 torx sockets and finally stripped out the screw on mine and had to use a cut-off tool to get the tensioner pulley out....it was a real pain and I was at it for 2 days... "How much for the little tool?" Droolllllll...... OH, does it have to be so long? Oh, and do I have to play golf when I retire?
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 11:53 PM

I actually made it this week, just for grins, two months after doing mine (and nearly stripping it out with the cheap harbor freight socket). I've been having such good luck selling my serp belt tensioner tool on ebay that I thought I'd give this a try. I've never actually used it. Right now, I'm looking into finding a source for high quality T45 insert bits (Wiha tools is in the lead). Once I find the perfect bit, I'll test it out on my car to make sure it works. The bit that's in there right now isn't rounded over enough.

The logic behind the length (2 feet long) is that with such a long moment arm, you won't have to push very hard to get the bolt free. The other advantage is that since you don't have to push so hard, it will allow you to free up your other hand to keep the bit steady in the bolthead.

The only downside is that it weighs over 3 lbs and would cost about $10 to ship. I can't imagine charging more than thirty bucks (plus shipping) for one of these babies.
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 03:12 AM

QUOTE (MadeInJapan @ May 8 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, this definitely would have helped me...I broke 3 torx sockets and finally stripped out the screw on mine and had to use a cut-off tool to get the tensioner pulley out....it was a real pain and I was at it for 2 days... "How much for the little tool?" Droolllllll...... OH, does it have to be so long? Oh, and do I have to play golf when I retire?


same here haha
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 11:44 AM

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So i going to get my waterpump,TB,Tensioner and pulleys done but i want to order them off of fcp because its cheaper then the dealership but i am worried about something breaking i don't no when the last time the pump pulleys or tensioner was done i no the tb was done at 114000KM in 03 and the car now has 250000KM in bay 13 it says change the TB every 70000miles or 5years is there any signs or symptoms i can look for on the belt and or any of the other parts i don't hear anything that sounds like a bad pulley only for a little whine that im pretty sure is the power steering pump so what do you guys think?

One more tip. Ya might consider getting one of those cam locking tools. It is very simple to use and it insures that you will have the cams properly aligned for re-assembly. I know for certain that IPD sells it for 25 bucks. It is item # DLT850CT.

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE (Flukey @ May 10 2009, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One more tip. Ya might consider getting one of those cam locking tools. It is very simple to use and it insures that you will have the cams properly aligned for re-assembly. I know for certain that IPD sells it for 25 bucks. It is item # DLT850CT.


I personally think its a waste of money. For one the cams are tough to move and two if you do move them just re-align them. IMO.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:57 PM

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I personally think its a waste of money. For one the cams are tough to move and two if you do move them just re-align them. IMO.

It just makes it idiot proof. How many times have I read here about cams being out after an in-experienced lad tackles the job to save some dough and learn something. The answer is too many times. Just a little cheap insurance. I dought that this guy is an expert like you.

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 02:28 PM

The great thing about that T45 tensioner tool is that in about 60 seconds you'd either have it stripped or off. There wouldn't really be much suspense as to whether you were going to have to break out the cutoff tool and endure an hour or so of unpleasantness.

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (Flukey @ May 10 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It just makes it idiot proof. How many times have I read here about cams being out after an in-experienced lad tackles the job to save some dough and learn something. The answer is too many times. Just a little cheap insurance. I dought that this guy is an expert like you.


I am an idiot, and I didn't need those cam locking tools. If you move those cams, you shouldn't be doing the job. I am lacking in dough, experience and common sense, but I did not need that pointless waste of money tool. Just be careful. The only tool you need is a serp belt slot of metal, and a fancy make shift tool to h=get the idler pulley off. Plain and simple.

Everyone overplays how difficult it is to do the tb and all associated parts. Just get er done, and live life. I have no mechanical knoledge, or asthetics as some of you might think, but it doesn't matter. Take your time and save money, thats how its done in the old school, and i'm the faquing headmatser.


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