33 replies to this topic

[cr854r]

i cant figure out why my rear end still sits pretty much stock with the kw coilovers. the front can sit way low but the rear not so much? is it because of how much weight i lost? any way of making it sit lower?

[Naughty33W]

well you did gut the thing hahaha

kw coilovers are only adjustable in the front iirc ? would it be possible to use another front set in the rear ???

[cr854r]

you can adjust the rear also its set as low as it gets now... an no its a mcphierson strut style in the front, and shocks in the rear

[Naughty33W]

ahhh , maybe a lighter set of shocks would do the trick , tho it sucks to by the kw coilovers only to change the shocks ... i wish i knew more about suspension ... do you absolutely need coilovers in the rear ? what about just a set of lowering springs ?

coilovers for the front and springs for the rear i mean

[AverageVolvo]

Perhaps they have not settled in yet, and/or you adjusted them incorrectly. My kwv2 sit super low in rear If I want. I currently have 3/4 in of the top of the tire (215/45/17) that is not visible and the front has about 1/3 of an inch with rolled and pulled fenders. The rear is always softer than the front.

Also how much weight did you lose, and are you running 16's or 17's lol.

[ozzimark]

Naughty33W, on 02 July 2009 - 05:45 AM, said:

ahhh , maybe a lighter set of shocks would do the trick

If he's going for handling on the track, a better solution would be to find a shorter set of stiff springs, not softer springs so that the car sits lower. Minimizing body roll and decreasing suspension "response time" (think back to your system dynamics classes) is typically the goal here.

CR, which springs have you got in there now?

[Chilled Man]

Pitche the crappy setup KW has in the rear for spring and spring mount and put in a IPD Rear spring.

That will get you lower.

[sconeman]

Chilled Man, on 02 July 2009 - 01:30 PM, said:

Pitche the crappy setup KW has in the rear for spring and spring mount and put in a IPD Rear spring.

That will get you lower.

true. this is my rear with IPD and bilstien touring.



The tourings are a too soft though to get the most out of these springs and I think they may be why my wagon sits lower in the rear than I've seen on others cars with IPD springs.

[dublin14]

You could try putting a bunch of weight in the back for a few days, and see if they settle better?

[HtownTurboBrick]

My Kw's are slammed in the rear, im tucking about .25" of tire with 215/40/17. Maybe they just need to settle

[cr854r]

AverageVolvo, on 02 July 2009 - 07:44 AM, said:

Perhaps they have not settled in yet, and/or you adjusted them incorrectly. My kwv2 sit super low in rear If I want. I currently have 3/4 in of the top of the tire (215/45/17) that is not visible and the front has about 1/3 of an inch with rolled and pulled fenders. The rear is always softer than the front.

Also how much weight did you lose, and are you running 16's or 17's lol.

well the bottom spring seat i have screwed all the way DOWN, should it be up?... i lost about 600lbs, an i have 17" volans

[T-5Bandit]

cr854r, on 02 July 2009 - 06:06 PM, said:

well the bottom spring seat i have screwed all the way DOWN, should it be up?... i lost about 600lbs, an i have 17" volans

At most, settling will give you another 1/4". Sounds like your weight reduction is causing the rear to sit higher. Either buy a shorter spring or cut a coil from the top of the KW spring. Also, since you are already at the bottom of the adjustment, removing the adjustable perch and securing the bottom of the spring in the factory cup may get you down slightly more.

[Che'_Moderator]

How did you loose 600lbs? Did you finally remove your engine?

sconeman, on 02 July 2009 - 03:14 PM, said:

true. this is my rear with IPD and bilstien touring.



The tourings are a too soft though to get the most out of these springs and I think they may be why my wagon sits lower in the rear than I've seen on others cars with IPD springs.

Thats with my KWs adjusted all the way up.IPD is not lower

[cr854r]

i pulled out everything that was not used while racing EVERYTHING/// an than took a hole drill an used that everywhere i could... ps i dont have my cage in yet wqhat do you think my problem is with lowering it???

[prasamin]

Mine is SLAMMED with the KW's in the rear.

there is no way the weight reduction causes the rake.

make sure you installed the springs properly, make sure you have KW springs

Like John mentioned, you can remove the lower adjustable perch completely and use the stock bolt down to hold the springs in....that'll get you pretty low.

and IPD springs are not lower than KW....not even the new ones....i've had them in my car.

[Che'_Moderator]

I dont think you car is 2600 pounds but if it is maybe thats the problem.

[prasamin]

Che'_Moderator, on 02 July 2009 - 08:12 PM, said:

I dont think you car is 2600 pounds but if it is maybe thats the problem.

removing all the seats, your gas tank, and every piece of trim, the dash, and the headliner, and maybe some bolts holding stuff together could get you 600lbs lighter. i wouldn't put it past anyone on here.

but 600lbs lighter is usually going to be coming off from the front of the car (most of it)....in the rear, all I can think of removing in a sedan is the rear seat and the spare tire that has any significant weight.

[Johann]

Spring isn't matched to the weight of the car anymore.

The cage will add ~110 pounds I guess which will make the rear come down a bit.

You could cut one coil from the top of the spring like I did,



Everything at the lowest setting. Empty trunk, no lower seat in the rear.

[cr854r]

who sells shorter stronger springs?

[prasamin]

cr854r, on 02 July 2009 - 08:33 PM, said:

who sells shorter stronger springs?

nobody....just wait a bit to let them settle, or remove the lower perch all together, see how you like it.

if it's still too high....do the Johann trick and cut a coil.