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#1 64pvolvo1800

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 11:58 PM

I have 2003 C70 OEM Jewels coming for my 98V and I am looking for suggestions on which HID I should go with. Sharp and John for sure, but what flavor? 35 or 55w and what temp 3000-----8000k?
I have been running 35w 4300k on my 98 stock with ecode lenses. I;m open to suggestions both pro and con.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:42 AM

You shouldn't go with HIDs.

Stick with halogen or install projectors :)

If you insist on getting HIDs, knowing full well that they will cause poor light dispersion, blind other drivers, and break the law...

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:11 AM

5000 isnt a real HID....its a mock HID, no ballast is needed...6000+ is where real HID starts..

6000k hid is 3 times brighter than regular lights, and light up more area...NGB I have no idea where you get your info but 50% of what youve said is wrong.

EDIT : 5000k require ballast but still dont really achieve what 6000+ doez

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:32 AM

5000 isnt a real HID....its a mock HID, no ballast is needed...6000+ is where real HID starts..

6000k hid is 3 times brighter than regular lights, and light up more area...NGB I have no idea where you get your info but 50% of what youve said is wrong.

EDIT : 5000k require ballast but still dont really achieve what 6000+ doez

You are 100% retarded. Everything you just posted is not only dumb, but its also wrong.


IMO, 5000k will look/perform the best with those lights.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:34 AM

You are 100% retarded. Everything you just posted is not only dumb, but its also wrong.


IMO, 5000k will look/perform the best with those lights.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:37 AM

5000 isnt a real HID....its a mock HID, no ballast is needed...6000+ is where real HID starts..

6000k hid is 3 times brighter than regular lights, and light up more area...NGB I have no idea where you get your info but 50% of what youve said is wrong.

EDIT : 5000k require ballast but still dont really achieve what 6000+ doez

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:46 AM

5000 isnt a real HID....its a mock HID, no ballast is needed...6000+ is where real HID starts..

6000k hid is 3 times brighter than regular lights, and light up more area...NGB I have no idea where you get your info but 50% of what youve said is wrong.

EDIT : 5000k require ballast but still dont really achieve what 6000+ doez


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:50 AM

Lumens=usable light output.

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Edit: those figures are not exact, everyone posts different info. But as you can see, 4300k is the brightest, which is why every OEM HID manufacturer uses 4300k bulbs. When you increase the bulb temperature (Kelvin) after 4300k, you are just losing lumens.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 02:20 AM

Lumens=usable light output.

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Edit: those figures are not exact, everyone posts different info. But as you can see, 4300k is the brightest, which is why every OEM HID manufacturer uses 4300k bulbs. When you increase the bulb temperature (Kelvin) after 4300k, you are just losing lumens.


You are exactly correct and Mr. 850Longbeach is absolutely incorrect.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 02:32 AM

Are you guys anti-HID upgrade on these b/c he's getting DOT spec ones? Because I'm pretty sure with E-code lenses the cutoff is quite suitable for an HID upgrade so long as you properly aim the headlights to spec.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 02:32 AM

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i'd stick with 35w.

i had 4300 and then switched to 6000. i love the look of the 6k.

lighting was def. better with the 4300.

i don't get anybody flashing me and i have jewels also.


this was 35w 4300k. what else could you need.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 02:39 AM

35 watt, 4300kelvinnnnnnnnnnn = teh sex

55watt in reflectors YOU wont notice much of a difference but EVERYONE else will

(though i had 6k in my reflectors as i liked the look better)

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 03:13 AM

5000 isnt a real HID....its a mock HID, no ballast is needed...6000+ is where real HID starts..

6000k hid is 3 times brighter than regular lights, and light up more area...NGB I have no idea where you get your info but 50% of what youve said is wrong.

EDIT : 5000k require ballast but still dont really achieve what 6000+ doez


i bet you install them with your bare hands, too.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 03:27 AM

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:25 AM

8000K!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:09 AM

More cautionary anecdotal info about using HIDs in jewels here.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:42 AM

I have 5000K w/ 3000K fogs....I had 6000k and like the white in the 5K better. They work great with the jewels and I'm not sure who got the idea HIDs and jewels don't mix.......if you put jewel lenses on regular housings....no that sucks for everyone on the road.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 10:30 AM

[quote name='flyfishing3' date='18 August 2009 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1250649144' post='1631744']
paul

i'd stick with 35w.

i had 4300 and then switched to 6000. i love the look of the 6k.

lighting was def. better with the 4300.

i don't get anybody flashing me and i have jewels also.


this was 35w 4300k. what else could you need.
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Thanks Mike. I love the white color of HID 4300k but it truly does seem to provide a little less distance that the silverstars I had before them. The white is so much easier on the eyes and strain when doing alot of night driving IMO.
I'm thinking about trying the silverstars one more time before I go HID on the new Jewels just so I can say I tried. Not 100% sure though since I realy like the white. Are the 6k that much nicer than the 4300k Mike?

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I have 5000K w/ 3000K fogs....I had 6000k and like the white in the 5K better. They work great with the jewels and I'm not sure who got the idea HIDs and jewels don't mix.......if you put jewel lenses on regular housings....no that sucks for everyone on the road.
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by the way, I'm getting the jewel entire headlight assemblies from Waltrip for $250 per side including the corners.....also changing to the eggcrate 2003 grill while I'm at it. woohoo.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 10:39 AM

by the way, I'm getting the jewel entire headlight assemblies from Waltrip for $250 per side including the corners.....also changing to the eggcrate 2003 grill while I'm at it. woohoo.


That is not bad! When did they lower their prices? When I asked sometime last year, they went for around $700 for everything.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 10:51 AM

That is not bad! When did they lower their prices? When I asked sometime last year, they went for around $700 for everything.

got the quote in May and he honored it a couple days ago.
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