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[michael-s70]

ok can some one please explain the 850 trim models to me?

is the 850 turbo same as a t5 850/s70 or what? is it a lpt or hpt?

[mrtl321]

All manufacturer's suggested retail prices (MSRPs) are base prices only.

1993

* 850 GLT ($24,800 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm

All 1993 850 models were badged GLT, regardless of equipment. Many options (leather, sunroof, and more) were bundled into the Touring package.

1994

* 850 ($24,300 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
* 850 Turbo ($29,985 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

The base 850 sedan includes the same headlights, front valance and front and rear bumper as the 1993 850, while all other models, including the new wagon, get revised headlights, front valances, and front and rear bumpers. The GLT badge is dropped, although all the same equipment is available. The 222 hp (166 kW) Turbo sedan and wagon, as well as the normally aspirated 168 hp (125 kW) wagon, are new models this year.

1995

* 850 ($24,580 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
* 850 GLT ($27,110 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
* 850 Turbo ($31,045 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm
* 850 T-5R ($35,545 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 240 hp (179 kW) @ 5600 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (330 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

The GLT badge returned for the 1995 model year, so there were now sedan and wagon versions of the 850, 850 GLT, 850 Turbo, and 850 T-5R. The T-5R was the new high performance model, with more power stemming from ECU tuning, and special suspension, trim and wheels. In addition to the introduction of the T-5R, changes included new tail-lights for sedans, optional side airbags, new interior switch-gear design and several other detail changes.

1996

* 850 ($26,125 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
* 850 GLT ($29,200 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
* 850 Turbo ($32,650 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm
* 850 R ($37,925 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 240 hp (179 kW) @ 5600 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

Changes this year include a revised power door lock system, new exterior colors, and full OBD-II compliance. The T-5R high performance version became the R in 1996, but the performance differences remained relatively the same.


1997

* 850 ($26,710 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
* 850 GLT ($31,835 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 190 hp (142 kW) @ 5100 rpm and 199 ft·lbf (270 N·m) at 1600 rpm
* 850 T-5 ($34,500 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm
* 850 R ($38,685 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 240 hp (179 kW) @ 5600 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

For 1997, the 850's final year, all GLT models were increased to 190 hp (142 kW) by pairing a low-pressure turbocharger with the 2.4 L engine. The 850 Turbo model was thence called the 850 T-5, as it always had been in the UK. The 1997 model year was short, as the substantially similar (virtually identical except for superficial styling changes) Volvo S70 sedan and Volvo V70 wagon were introduced during the first half of 1997 shortly before Ford Motor Co. took over Volvo in 1998.

All info from Link

That should be everything that would want to know about the 850's.

The best for modding would be the 850 Turbo/ T5 (same thing, both HPT) and IMO the S70 T5 (HPT) instead of the S70 GLT since it is a Low pressure turbo (LPT).

[gotboost]

Seriously??? You have a GLT and a T5 in your driveway, and you don't know the answers to these questions? Ugh...Ok...I'll be nice. Here you go:

850 turbos and 850 T5s are the same car. Same engine. Same management system (Motronic 4.3). Different badge. Both cars have the same HPT engine.

850 GLTs, except for the '97 models are just NA 850s. '97 850 GLTs got the LPT engine.

All s/v/c70 glts are LPT cars, with the '99 and newer cars getting VVT and electronic throttle bodies. '98 cars use Motronic 4.4 and are more easily tunable than the later cars.

All s/v/c70 T5s are HPT cars, with the same changes in '99 as the glt cars.

As far as which car is going to be the easiest/best to mod...I'd get any '98 or older HPT car. If you want to buy a manual transmission car, you are looking at '98 only, as the 850 turbo/t5s never came equipped with the M56. Of course you can always do a tranny swap, but not everybody has the stomach/skills for that.

[johnloves850's]

The best car for modding would be the 97 glt.
The car already starts out with 1/10th of a liter more displacement and a better compression ratio.
You can swap everything from the hpt motors.
All of the parts are interchangeable, for the most part.

The glt has SAS, but that can be done away with fairly easily (put in a t5 ecu, take out air pump and SAS fitting on the downpipe).

In my opinion, I favor the 2.4 over the 2.3 any day of the week.
It all depends on what you want to do, but if you are looking for a car to mod, and want gobbs of torque..
Get any car with the lpt motor.
I have had one for 2 years and it will never get old, figuratively speaking.

[Fake-R]

johnloves850, on 21 September 2009 - 04:41 AM, said:

The best car for modding would be the 97 glt.
The car already starts out with 1/10th of a liter more displacement and a better compression ratio.
You can swap everything from the hpt motors.
All of the parts are interchangeable, for the most part.

The glt has SAS, but that can be done away with fairly easily (put in a t5 ecu, take out air pump and SAS fitting on the downpipe).

In my opinion, I favor the 2.4 over the 2.3 any day of the week.
It all depends on what you want to do, but if you are looking for a car to mod, and want gobbs of torque..
Get any car with the lpt motor.
I have had one for 2 years and it will never get old, figuratively speaking.

That .1 more of extra displacement just adds so much torque.


I will agree that I would rather build up a 2.4, but with that, you have to take into consideration some other things. With the compression ratio being higher, and apparently the rods being the same, the chance of bending a rod is more likely at higher boost.

It's been rumored that the 2.3 still is quicker, how, the world may never know.

[michael-s70]

gotboost, on 21 September 2009 - 04:35 AM, said:

Seriously??? You have a GLT and a T5 in your driveway, and you don't know the answers to these questions? Ugh...Ok...I'll be nice. Here you go:

850 turbos and 850 T5s are the same car. Same engine. Same management system (Motronic 4.3). Different badge. Both cars have the same HPT engine.

850 GLTs, except for the '97 models are just NA 850s. '97 850 GLTs got the LPT engine.

All s/v/c70 glts are LPT cars, with the '99 and newer cars getting VVT and electronic throttle bodies. '98 cars use Motronic 4.4 and are more easily tunable than the later cars.

All s/v/c70 T5s are HPT cars, with the same changes in '99 as the glt cars.

As far as which car is going to be the easiest/best to mod...I'd get any '98 or older HPT car. If you want to buy a manual transmission car, you are looking at '98 only, as the 850 turbo/t5s never came equipped with the M56. Of course you can always do a tranny swap, but not everybody has the stomach/skills for that.

haha sorry man i just wasnt exactly sure . thats what i was thinkin was t5 was same as turbo. lol i do know about my s70's throttle bodies difference and all just wasnt sure about 850 turbo vs t5. thanks for the clarity gents. lol actually i have 3 volvos now in my drive

one more thing what if i put a 2.4l motor in my t5 with a 16t or bigger turbo. would that be advised by you all or no? i have the 97 glt that i just bought and was wondering since theyre both same motor in gen (besides turbos, compression, and liters) if i should swap and just make a unique t5 or keep the 2.3 in it and soup that one up

[gilber33]

I would keep the 2.3l, Fake-R just said that rods are more prone to bending with more boost in the 2.4l's. No point in swapping out motors if you have one in there that works.

[scandalo]

I've been under the impression that if you are going to build a motor then go with the LPT block. You are going to replace the weakpoints anyway.

And doesnt a 16T with a T5 tune beat a stock T5? Haven't we established that?

Realistically I would say that a 98 S70 T5M is your best.

Already manual, already quick, handles mods a little better.

But maybe I'm biased.

And why is this thread here? I didn't realize where I was lol.

[v4lve]

If there's nothing wrong with your T5M i'd say there wouldn't be a point in modding a different car.

[michael-s70]

v4lve, on 24 September 2009 - 02:42 PM, said:

If there's nothing wrong with your T5M i'd say there wouldn't be a point in modding a different car.

thats the thing... there is check my past threads

[Gage]

mrtl321, on 21 September 2009 - 04:28 AM, said:

1996

* 850 ($26,125 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
* 850 GLT ($29,200 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
* 850 Turbo ($32,650 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm
* 850 R ($37,925 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 240 hp (179 kW) @ 5600 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm



All info from Link

That should be everything that would want to know about the 850's.

The best for modding would be the 850 Turbo/ T5 (same thing, both HPT) and IMO the S70 T5 (HPT) instead of the S70 GLT since it is a Low pressure turbo (LPT).

Hmmmmm My 96 Turbo is a 2.4l LPT ?

[Cal3thousand]

Gage, on 28 September 2009 - 12:00 PM, said:

Hmmmmm My 96 Turbo is a 2.4l LPT ?

Huh?

only 97+ GLT is 2.4l LPT.

96 turbo is... well, a 'turbo', aka T5.

[Fake-R]

Cal3thousand, on 28 September 2009 - 07:47 PM, said:

Huh?

only 97+ GLT is 2.4l LPT.

96 turbo is... well, a 'turbo', aka T5.

Wait...850's have 5 cylinders? WTF?

[Jack8745]

johnloves850, on 21 September 2009 - 04:41 AM, said:

The best car for modding would be the 97 glt.
The car already starts out with 1/10th of a liter more displacement and a better compression ratio.
You can swap everything from the hpt motors.
All of the parts are interchangeable, for the most part.

The glt has SAS, but that can be done away with fairly easily (put in a t5 ecu, take out air pump and SAS fitting on the downpipe).

In my opinion, I favor the 2.4 over the 2.3 any day of the week.
It all depends on what you want to do, but if you are looking for a car to mod, and want gobbs of torque..
Get any car with the lpt motor.
I have had one for 2 years and it will never get old, figuratively speaking.

plus one on this.
i love my glt with 16t on it

[Aequitas_Veritas]

johnloves850, on 21 September 2009 - 04:41 AM, said:

The best car for modding would be the 97 glt.
The car already starts out with 1/10th of a liter more displacement and a better compression ratio.
You can swap everything from the hpt motors.
All of the parts are interchangeable, for the most part.

The glt has SAS, but that can be done away with fairly easily (put in a t5 ecu, take out air pump and SAS fitting on the downpipe).

In my opinion, I favor the 2.4 over the 2.3 any day of the week.
It all depends on what you want to do, but if you are looking for a car to mod, and want gobbs of torque..
Get any car with the lpt motor.
I have had one for 2 years and it will never get old, figuratively speaking.

wrong. A GLT with a 16t and a T5 tune will beat a STOCK T5

But chip a T5 and you will smash on a GLT with T5 parts anyday. And T5 then have a much higher ceiling to go from there with an exhaust, IC, etc..., where you will be at the limits of the GLT with just T5 parts.

[fastwagonhawaii]

Gage, on 28 September 2009 - 12:00 PM, said:

Hmmmmm My 96 Turbo is a 2.4l LPT ?

Mine is a 2.3 just like the listing... hmmmmmm

[gilber33]

Jack8745, on 19 May 2011 - 02:10 AM, said:

plus one on this.
i love my glt with 16t on it

How do you find these threads? It's two years old. And then resurrect it to say plus one?

[mrbrightside2009]

plus one glt biotches.

[Anatoli]

this guy was banned by google and bing

[(n)A-GAME]

And you felt the need to bump this very old and irrelevant thread up because....? I'm sure you had a good reason.