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Hussein's 1998 V70 Xr : The Force Awakens

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... OT-1 connected..

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tomorrow I have to do some trial datalogging... to evaluate the fuel & ign mapping then I can move onto TurboTuner :D

OMG.. :blink:

Worst investment ever.. I feel sorry for you.. :(

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OMG.. :blink:

Worst investment ever.. I feel sorry for you.. :(

Why Innovate is crap, or just the OT-1? Or is it the software? Enlighten me please, I can still return it, since it doesn't seem to connect with the ECU :lol:

Hi,

why use the new oilcooler, whats with the old design oilcooler?

Does the US Models have no oilcooler in stock?

regards joerg

All US turbos have oil coolers - pre-98 have it in the radiator - more lines & places to leak.

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Why Innovate is crap, or just the OT-1? Or is it the software? Enlighten me please, I can still return it, since it doesn't seem to connect with the ECU :lol:

Well.. Innovate as a whole is junk IMO but the OT-1 hasn't been supported for over a year. Just read their forum and be shocked. No support, loads of problems with connecting the OT etc. etc. but no firmware updates in more than a year and stupid remark from Innovate like "We tested the device on a pre WWII Auto union and all worked fine but we didn't test any other vehicle because we don't have any vehicle available".. Thing is, they keep selling the device while knowing it is half baked. Also the software is questionable to say the least. Try forcing the old OBD protocol. ISO 9141. Worked for me. All other is just a waste of time.

PS don't leave it connected because it will drain the battery.

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Well.. Innovate as a whole is junk IMO but the OT-1 hasn't been supported for over a year. Just read their forum and be shocked. No support, loads of problems with connecting the OT etc. etc. but no firmware updates in more than a year and stupid remark from Innovate like "We tested the device on a pre WWII Auto union and all worked fine but we didn't test any other vehicle because we don't have any vehicle available".. Thing is, they keep selling the device while knowing it is half baked. Also the software is questionable to say the least. Try forcing the old OBD protocol. ISO 9141. Worked for me. All other is just a waste of time.

PS don't leave it connected because it will drain the battery.

Thanks for the reply! What do you mean by forcing the old (ISO 9141) protocol?

Thing is, I just want to data log my existing tune to get fuel & ign parameters - if this isn't going to do that, then I should just return it.

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johann what do you suggest in using for logging then?

OT - did you buy your T5 from someone who also owns an X1/9? A fella on the xwebforum said he sold his T5 to K. Hanks...

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OT - did you buy your T5 from someone who also owns an X1/9? A fella on the xwebforum said he sold his T5 to K. Hanks...

yup that was me. i bought it from Ash in LA....its the current project car.

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johann what do you suggest in using for logging then?

For OBD I use Palmer Performance PCMscan, Used a WinMobile Ease OBD also but PCMscan works for me.

About the ISO-9141, from what I recall the OT-1 tries to connect through CAN first. I belive the software allows to set it to 9141, need to check because it has been a long time since I last used the device.

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For OBD I use Palmer Performance PCMscan, Used a WinMobile Ease OBD also but PCMscan works for me.

About the ISO-9141, from what I recall the OT-1 tries to connect through CAN first. I belive the software allows to set it to 9141, need to check because it has been a long time since I last used the device.

Thanks, Johann

I'll take a look see.

yup that was me. i bought it from Ash in LA....its the current project car.

Nice!

I have looked at your thread on TT - looks like it's coming along nicely!

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My motor was rebuilt 14K ago, and the turbo is less than a year old, but I'm still assuming it's the turbo, since I still get a fair amount in the piping, etc. :rolleyes: I think a modified breather would be wise.. I don't have any detonation, that I can discern - I've had spark blowout, but no detonation that I've ever felt. Of course, that doesn't mean it hasn't happened on a discreet level, since I'm not testing for it in any way.

Anyhow - I'm off to put my AWD back in, I'm tired of all the wheelspin through third

Well, it seems the oilsmoke on decel was primarily due to my having f'kd with the base throttle setting - when I was trying to figure out why the car ran shitty w/the 625cc's, I had tried re-adjusting it - and, as it turns out, it was completely closed at idle. :blink: so, I can only assume that the lack of some air bleed was causing excessive manifold vacuum & drawing oil from somewhere - rings, valves, I dunno. It was really irking me. After re-adjustment yesterday, the condition seems to have disappeared. Trying to wrap my head around the exact condition that the closed throttle sets up, but whatever, my concern that the turbo or engine had developed blowby/oil leak has been resolved, so I'm happy :D

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For OBD I use Palmer Performance PCMscan, Used a WinMobile Ease OBD also but PCMscan works for me.

About the ISO-9141, from what I recall the OT-1 tries to connect through CAN first. I belive the software allows to set it to 9141, need to check because it has been a long time since I last used the device.

Thanks for the tip, Johann. That did the trick. Now I just have to get it to display the data scaled correctly :blink: - rpms' start reading @ 5K for idle, and no IGN timing data... Innovate is sending me a hot-off-the-press revised OT-1, so I'll see what happens.

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Well, it seems the oilsmoke on decel was primarily due to my having f'kd with the base throttle setting - when I was trying to figure out why the car ran shitty w/the 625cc's, I had tried re-adjusting it - and, as it turns out, it was completely closed at idle. :blink: so, I can only assume that the lack of some air bleed was causing excessive manifold vacuum & drawing oil from somewhere - rings, valves, I dunno. It was really irking me. After re-adjustment yesterday, the condition seems to have disappeared. Trying to wrap my head around the exact condition that the closed throttle sets up, but whatever, my concern that the turbo or engine had developed blowby/oil leak has been resolved, so I'm happy :D

Wrong. Oil smoke still present on decel. I'm thinking it's due to overrich condition @ part throttle (AFR"S drop to the 10's), washing the cylinders, then dumping as oil smoke on decel, as I always get a "pop" out of the exhaust as well. Today I rechecked:

Cam timing EXH 4º adv INT 0º adv.

Put NGK's back @ .031"

Compression test 140 across the board (OS pistons drop it that much???) no difference if oil added to cylinder

Lowered Base FP to 3.8bar

No change at all.

Waiting for revised Woth tune. Once that comes, I'll lower FP back to 3bar & see if all is well. Also waiting for TT ECU to come back from Blighty. RAM error on 1st version.

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10:1 should not be washing the walls down. If it's black smoke not blue/grey maybe it's just smoke from it being rich. Does it do it when the motor is cold?

140 across the board is on the low side, imo, especially with the exhaust cam advanced, but I guess it's even...

OS pistons should increase the compression ratio assuming they aren't dished more. That would actually increase comp test readings.

In guess it'll be easier to tell once you can tweak the tune yourself.

Wrong. Oil smoke still present on decel. I'm thinking it's due to overrich condition @ part throttle (AFR"S drop to the 10's), washing the cylinders, then dumping as oil smoke on decel, as I always get a "pop" out of the exhaust as well. Today I rechecked:

Cam timing EXH 4º adv INT 0º adv.

Put NGK's back @ .031"

Compression test 140 across the board (OS pistons drop it that much???) no difference if oil added to cylinder

Lowered Base FP to 3.8bar

No change at all.

Waiting for revised Woth tune. Once that comes, I'll lower FP back to 3bar & see if all is well. Also waiting for TT ECU to come back from Blighty. RAM error on 1st version.

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10:1 should not be washing the walls down. If it's black smoke not blue/grey maybe it's just smoke from it being rich. Does it do it when the motor is cold?

140 across the board is on the low side, imo, especially with the exhaust cam advanced, but I guess it's even...

OS pistons should increase the compression ratio assuming they aren't dished more. That would actually increase comp test readings.

In guess it'll be easier to tell once you can tweak the tune yourself.

My only other thought right now is the turbo - but personally, I've never seen one smoke on decel - it's always been under boost. There is a fair amount of oil in the inlet/intercooler piping - so I'm wondering if the oil is being sucked back into the intake from the compressor housing...

I really don't understand why the compression would be relatively low like that. It doesn't smoke when cold, but I don't go into boost until the engine reaches normal operating temp.

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