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[troyhyde]

On a budget you might consider Inmotion or Upsolute. IPD will certainly provide a top quality product but can sometimes be at the top of the cost range.

I've had 3 ECU's tuned from Inmotion, they are all excellent. Service was quick and safe, etc... If you compare a handful of off the shelf tunes, I think you'll find they are all pretty similar.

[--Aaron--]

ST remap has been in my car for going on a year now, no issues to report. If you're somewhat local I'd say Oliver's the way to go on a budget.

[shaun]

FCP Groton, on 07 October 2009 - 03:58 PM, said:

I have only had the IPD tune and it is fantastic. I run it with a MBC on my 850 set to 16 PSI so that I can get the fast spooling of a MBC with the reliability of a tune.

I set my car up the same- MBC and EMC in parallel- 17psi ST tune with the MBC set at 16psi. Very consistent boost levels to 5k- My car does not see redline because power is dropping off at 5k anyway (15g conical). believe I initially got the parallel idea from bay 13, thanks!

0ver 60k on the 16psi ST remap. I feel like I dodged a bullet when i fist put the remapped ECU in the car because at the same time I cranked the waste-gate to the IPD recommended 5-6 PSI. I saw a couple 20 PSI spikes, stuff a brick, dropped the waste-gate to 4 PSI and bought the basic dawes (now 3 bar?) MBC and installed it parallel. I later replaced the CBV with a much newer OEM one and everything is solid. I think the IPD recommendation is a little hot. I love IPD, thank you IPD, I'll look forward to buying more stuff from IPD, but careful with their recommendation on that wastegate tweak.

[db130]

Ghost Shadow, on 18 October 2009 - 02:00 AM, said:

Oliver is a fat bastard. He only acts like he doesn't know why its messed up when you get it. Its all a game with him. You get what you pay for.

Why is it that you never hear about IPD's tunes messing up a ECU? IPD is a reputable company. Oliver is trailer trash, he rents out half of a trailer so he can have a desk with a stack of ecu's and his computer to flash. There is no work bench, thats his desk, if he brings work home the work bench is his dining room table. between the two freaking stupid 150lb dogs he gots, i wonder if he can get your ecu working right. oh yeah lets hope the cat doesnt walk over your ecu while he is working on it at his house.

This dude is a piece of work, i used to give him the benifit of the doubt. Now i finally know his game. Take your money flash your ecu with a tune from someone over in the UK. Thats why so may of the tunes do not work right, they for euro cars. He does this with all the ecus he works on.

My rant is based off of a $1900 issue i have with him. He's getting served and taken to small claims court. If it wasn't for this $1900, i'd recommend him for a tune

what exactly happened? until just recently, you were one of the few advocates of ST.

[Ghost Shadow]

Chilled Man, on 18 October 2009 - 03:00 PM, said:

what happened now

db130, on 18 October 2009 - 07:18 PM, said:

what exactly happened? until just recently, you were one of the few advocates of ST.

i was in the market for a Launch X431 tool. He tells me he can get me one. I check his out and i see that its a nice powerful tool. He offers to get me one from his Bejing supplier. Me not knowing anything about them, i look around and see that they are going for about $2300-2600 on fleabay for a new one. local guys want $2700-2900. So his deal seems better and better. Finally i pull the trigger with a buddy of mine(another shop) and buy one from fat fuck oliver. I get it 2 weeks later. Eager to use it, i plug it into every fucking car that i see. 2007 Toyota Rav4, 2007 VW Jetta, 2001 C70, 1999 xc70, 2006 porsche cayenne, 2004 porsche 911, 2005 acura rl, 2001 acura mdx, you get the idea. It read 40-50% of the cars, i do some more research now and find out that i need to get online for updates. when you buy one of these from overseas, you get hosed on the online updates. something the fat fuck should have told me about since he knew this was going to happen. he says i can't get my money back. he now says i have to pay more money for updates. SOB made money being the middle man and now when there is problems he is ignoring my emails and phone calls. Just wait till i go to fat fucks house 5 Lemuels CT, woodstock MD 21163 Peter Oliver Bentson and shove this Launch up his ass.

Bottom line: he acts like he's the good guy, mean while he knows he fucks up. he's a cheap person, thats why you guys get your ecus shipped in crap ass boxes. for gods sake, he pulled the ecu out of my car with the ignition on and a scan tool plugged in. I was at his house for 2.5 hours for him to flash one tune 3x's, 2 of them the car did not start.

I was only a advocate because i see it from his side, he took care of my flashes for under $200. I can also see the problems arise from chip tuning, but for gods sake.....spend the money for packing, spend the money for fedex or UPS. He uses money orders because you can't get your money back if there is a problem, he does not use paypal because no chargebacks, no checks because it can be tracked and he can be held liable, cash has no trace same thing as money orders.he ships USPS because the claims process sucks ass, he does not put insurance on anything. he's too cheap all he wants is to take your money and have you go away and wait for the next sucker.

All you Maryland, DC, Delaware, and virginia people...beware, that fat POS also tunes for some shops in the area. He did EIP for a while, also did some work for Altered Atmosphere. this info is straight from him, not me.

[850 LongBeach]

Do I smell a mailbomb on the way to his house?

[lookforjoe]

Ghost Shadow, on 18 October 2009 - 07:44 PM, said:

i was in the market for a Launch X431 tool. He tells me he can get me one. I check his out and i see that its a nice powerful tool.

On this, Launch X431 is a royal PITA, and a waste of time, if you want my opinion. It may work on some vehicles, but every '98 - volvo I've tried it on, it always fucks up. The shop I do work out of in the summer months bought a complete package. The software has to download EVERYTIME you use it (WTF??) and half the time it doesn't work, doesn't recognise the car, etc... basically, you spend 1/2 hour or more wasted diagnostic time, everytime. So what if they have toll free tech support? They better for what they charge for the software subscription. A cheap Matco OBDII scan tool works better, faster. It's ONLY defense is that WHEN it does work, it can pull more codes than most, and provide more detailed data on them.

[v4lve]

Ghost Shadow, on 18 October 2009 - 07:44 PM, said:

All you Maryland, DC, Delaware, and virginia people...beware, that fat POS also tunes for some shops in the area. He did EIP for a while, also did some work for Altered Atmosphere. this info is straight from him, not me.

Sounds like he was right up their alley, EIP, they cut the no start and went for blowing up motors

[Ghost Shadow]

lookforjoe, on 18 October 2009 - 08:34 PM, said:

On this, Launch X431 is a royal PITA, and a waste of time, if you want my opinion. It may work on some vehicles, but every '98 - volvo I've tried it on, it always fucks up. The shop I do work out of in the summer months bought a complete package. The software has to download EVERYTIME you use it (WTF??) and half the time it doesn't work, doesn't recognise the car, etc... basically, you spend 1/2 hour or more wasted diagnostic time, everytime. So what if they have toll free tech support? They better for what they charge for the software subscription. A cheap Matco OBDII scan tool works better, faster. It's ONLY defense is that WHEN it does work, it can pull more codes than most, and provide more detailed data on them.

Hussein,

The problem is this SOB knew that it needs software updates, the SOB knows that it is a POS. Yet in his capitalistic ways still fucking took my money. we had long discussions about it, he never mentioned anything about updates.

the unit had version numbers that were 2 years old, WTF is that? The card in the unit said european configuration, for all euro cars.

[fivex84]

I have had the 17 psi tune for over two years now with no complaints. I did buy my tune from a member and not Oliver.

[Ghost Shadow]

fivex84, on 18 October 2009 - 09:46 PM, said:

I have had the 17 psi tune for over two years now with no complaints. I did buy my tune from a member and not Oliver.

Major thread jack here dude, i sorry to the OP.

the thing is, i have no problems with my tune either. I have two cars done by him and had a third one too.

Everyone will tell you that once the tune is in and running 95% have no problems with the tune itself, just new problems arising from the extra tune. Like me the day i came driving home from fat ass's house my car limped home with 12 miles to go. got a flashing CEL, and finally a P0303 code. that was the 4th time in 2 seperate cars that i pulled a P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, and or P0305 these are coil codes. to date, i have swapped out 5 coils between the two cars i own. i could have blamed the tune but i had bad coils. it wasn't the tune, its usually the car. BUT the fat fuck does not package thing right, he does not flash the correct program on the ECU. He wanted to do a stage 2 2001 T5M flash on my 99 XC70, and he did do it. I told him not to i do not need it and plus it is a different car. car would not start, he then flashed a 98 S70 T5 flash onto it. we all know what happens there. again told the fucker its the wrong car. finally he just said well i can do the same thing for you that i just did for another volvo guy two weeks ago. I can do a 2000 S70 T5 tune for you, stage 1 or 2. i told him the stage one and that is the car the car that is going to work.

How many ecus did he fuck up? How many did he lose? How many broke in transit? this one is the best, How many times did others have to send their ecu back to get it fixed after sending it in? How many lucky users got their ecus to start up on the first time when they got it back from olivers? How about even getting back the right ecu?

How hard is it to flash a ECU? Not hard at all, read this and you can see how easy it is http://raise.spd.lou...516/howburn.htm

Hard part is the solder, thats easy with the proper tools like this http://www.mcmelectr...ELAID=220584386

And with the amount of ecu's he has done, come on a monkey would be a expert at it by now.

Speedtuning is a gamble. odds are against you unless you can physically watch him do it and beat him up when it does not work right!

Older 94-98 volvos i'd say hell yea, those ecu's are a dime a dozen, the newer stuff with the imobilizers on it, jeez, no way unless i can touch him.

[Pops Racer]

I wuuuub my ST17 tune!


wacky world, huh?

[850 LongBeach]

InMotion 250$ of win