DonutsDemise, on 12 January 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:
first of all, i am pretty sure oak trees like other trees emit oxygen. and second, look at the average temperatures in greenland during this winter weather. it's all relative, to understand climate change you have to think outside the box and your local jurisdiction.
"Some facts about global warming: The earth probably has warmed up about 1 degree F since 1850. Carbon dioxide absorbs heat on one wavelength and re-radiates it on a slightly different wavelength.
I am a test engineer who worked with the National Weather Service for about 12 years. I am an expert in certain kinds of metrology, the science of making measurements. I am very familiar with many of the problems with making accurate measurements.
One hundred years ago, the mercury thermometer was the instrument of choice for temperature measurement. Take a good look at one. What is the smallest change you can detect? Probably 0.5 degree, and that doesn't take into account the accuracy of the thermometer or any confounding external effects. Omega (www.omega.com), an excellent company for measurement equipment, sells an instrument whose best accuracy is plus or minus 0.3 degree F, so a rise of 1 degree could be anywhere from 0.7 to 1.3 degrees. With a mercury thermometer, it would b 0.5 to 1.5. The Omega device has a digital readout that reduces the likelihood of operator error. A thermometer doesn't have that feature, so there was plenty of operator error in old readings.
One hundred years ago, cities were small and spread out. Cities are hotter than country. My house in Wolcott tends to be 5 degrees to 10 degrees cooler than Hartford. Expanding cities make temperature measurements appear hotter. A century ago, there were very few measuring stations, making it very difficult to correlate the old measurements with the new. In addition, for there to be actual warming, the whole earth must be getting warmer, but we have no way of knowing that because we don't have historical data for most of the earth, and urban spread and inventions such as air conditioning confound the data we have.
In other words, a rise of 1 degree F is in the noise of our measurement capability and therefore meaningless.
Other points to consider:
During the period known as the Little Ice Age, which ended about 1850, there were crop failures and snow in July in temperate regions. Some of the 1 degree rise must be attributed to the end of that unusually cold period.
Greenland ice near the ocean is receding, but inland glaciers are getting thicker. The receding ice has exposed the ruins of a Viking farming community. We still can't farm Greenland, so it must have been warmer 1,000 years ago than it is today.
When the Romans invaded England 2,000 years ago, they grew wine grapes. English farmers are just now trying again. Therefore, it was at least as warm 2,000 years ago as today.
Carbon dioxide re-radiates heat; it doesn't "trap" it. Since it's up in the atmosphere, that means more than half of that heat gets radiated into space.
Norway has dredged a lake above the Arctic Circle and found the remains of vegetation. That means it has been much warmer than now.
There are many more polar bears now than there were 40 years ago, and they don't need sea ice to survive.
Al Gore, in addition to being a well-documented liar, is going to make millions on cap-and-trade if it passes.
There is no such thing as "settled science." Science doesn't work that way.
The so-called "hockey-stick" temperature graph was based on the rings from one tree.
We should wean ourselves from fossil fuels for many reasons, but CO2 isn't one of them. We will run out. We are hurting our balance of trade. Coal mining does leave a mess and is dangerous. Oil spills are harmful. None of these is a crisis. We need to use real science, not alchemy."
Letter to the editor, Waterbury-Republican American, 1/04/10, written by Richard Bingham
"The name "Smoky" comes from the natural fog that often hangs over the range and presents as large smoke plumes from a distance. This fog, which is most common in the morning and after rainfall, is the result of warm humid air from the Gulf of Mexico cooling rapidly in the higher elevations of Southern Appalachia." Wiki.
I trust my scientist more than I trust the agenda driven, so called climatologists.
°°KOLBAS°°, on 13 January 2010 - 09:22 AM, said:
+1
Then they start reducing population numbers and this whole thing is about a one world govt. Why does the US want to change the dollar, why is the federal reserve above the law and privately owned? The govt are working with the Eu and the Bilderberg group(meetings which are against the constitution). Geezus, if I lived in the states I'd be protesting like a mofo. NAFTA is BS also and the swine flu was man made, the govt scare us with self inflicted terrorism, and you think they didn't do 9/11 themselves you're a fool. Bin Laden was a CIA operative and still is!
Also, scientific evidence shows that the world has actually cooled in the last 10-15 years and a great deal of information was removed from their reports, which they don't deny. All that Wingnut says is true and I'm halfway across the world and know this. Wingnut, you are my new HERO
While I don't agree with some of your conspiracy claims, Your getting the picture. I saw a bunch of Alex Jones vids on Bildeberg, very disturbing, if true.
"Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable...is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built." - Abe Lincoln
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