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#1 faultywarrior

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 03:05 AM

I don't know how many people on here are pro installers or have done tons of installs, but I need some advice. In your experience, what seems to be the best way to test-fit components of an audio system (i.e. subs, amps, etc.) for placement. I had read on some places to make cardboard versions of the components to full scale, and then test-fit them.) I'm not sure if doing this, or any other odd test-fit method is worth my time, or if I should just take the actual equipment and place it. (I'd think something like the cardboard would make test fitting easier, since it's lighter, easier to maneuver for testing placement, and there isn't any risk in damaging the actual components.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 03:11 AM

I'm no pro. But, for test fitting, I've just used the cardboard method. It works well to get a general idea for sizing.
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Posted 13 May 2010 - 03:19 AM

View Postmacminter, on 13 May 2010 - 03:11 AM, said:

I'm no pro. But, for test fitting, I've just used the cardboard method. It works well to get a general idea for sizing.

ok. I saw that on a few audio discussion forums , and was like wtf? Who would do that? But yeah, it does seem like a good way to figure out sizing. (I doubt it's going to be easy... 12" sub with amp, an amp for the door speakers, 2x caps [1000 RMS setup], 2 AWG wire.) This is going to be one of the more challenging ones.
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Posted 13 May 2010 - 04:31 AM

Screw amps into the back of the back seats, eyeball it, mount 1 cap next to each amp..... or mount it all to the box and drill a .5in hole in the firewall ... win win. Pretty simple install.... You could even get fancey and wedge some MDF in the spare tire well, mount all the crap on that, cover with carpet already there, small splice for box wires and... win win lol
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Posted 13 May 2010 - 04:42 AM

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 05:14 AM

View PostVolvowith18psi, on 13 May 2010 - 04:31 AM, said:

Screw amps into the back of the back seats, eyeball it, mount 1 cap next to each amp..... or mount it all to the box and drill a .5in hole in the firewall ... win win. Pretty simple install.... You could even get fancey and wedge some MDF in the spare tire well, mount all the crap on that, cover with carpet already there, small splice for box wires and... win win lol


+1 for making this sound like my friend's first car install (before I had to fix it because his radio antenna would randomly raise and lower itself as he drove. Wires were held together with bolts though ring connectors. [see pic below])

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diymobileaudio.com

do it.

I've seen the site before. Haven't really checked it out though.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 07:17 PM

View Postfaultywarrior, on 13 May 2010 - 03:05 AM, said:

I don't know how many people on here are pro installers or have done tons of installs, but I need some advice. In your experience, what seems to be the best way to test-fit components of an audio system (i.e. subs, amps, etc.) for placement. I had read on some places to make cardboard versions of the components to full scale, and then test-fit them.) I'm not sure if doing this, or any other odd test-fit method is worth my time, or if I should just take the actual equipment and place it. (I'd think something like the cardboard would make test fitting easier, since it's lighter, easier to maneuver for testing placement, and there isn't any risk in damaging the actual components.

Any other suggestions are welcome as well.

I mocked up my amp rack and sub box with cardboard, as far as speakers go, I just pulled the stock ones out and measured them to double check if my Alpine's fit.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:17 PM

measuring tapes are also designed for this purpose to take away some of the guess work and issues of test fitting
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Posted 23 May 2010 - 11:02 PM

View PostGet Some, on 23 May 2010 - 03:17 PM, said:

measuring tapes are also designed for this purpose to take away some of the guess work and issues of test fitting

I know. But using a tape gets to be a PITA when you're trying to make it look good. I wound up going with the cardboard replicas. Worked very well for placement. Just need to wire everything up, and I'll be good.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 12:03 AM

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 01:33 PM

This is how my mock-up looked. Kinda crappy, but it worked great. Finishing the lasts of the wiring today.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 05:43 PM

wow... :blink:

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 12:43 AM

It's done. And it hits EXTREMELY hard.
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Posted 30 May 2010 - 03:38 AM

does it make the hustlers cry?

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 03:49 AM

View PostRZT5, on 30 May 2010 - 03:38 AM, said:

does it make the hustlers cry?
Not sure. There isn't any (to my knowledge) in my area.
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Posted 30 May 2010 - 04:51 AM

View Postfaultywarrior, on 30 May 2010 - 12:43 AM, said:

It's done. And it hits EXTREMELY hard.


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your telling me your 1000w system hits "extremly hard"? lolz, how about some specs so i can laugh even more.... i used 2 awg wire for my speaker amp alone...if you arent using 1/0awg on your amp then you really arent using much wattage :rolleyes:

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 05:24 PM

i has basssssss tooo... did you actually mount your amp on your truck floor like that? cuz thats a waste of space...
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Posted 30 May 2010 - 05:32 PM

it looks like crap.

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 05:44 PM

btw what kinda speaks did you use.. sony xplods?
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Posted 30 May 2010 - 08:30 PM

View PostTom., on 30 May 2010 - 05:32 PM, said:

it looks like crap.
Duh. It's cardboard with tape and some markings on it.

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btw what kinda speaks did you use.. sony xplods?
No. For now, I left the stock ones in, since I haven't figured out which ones to get as replacements. It sounds good even without the audio processor installed, so I'm not complaining.
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