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[The Big Tuna]

"Don't argue sports with Jackson, he'll destroy you."

I'd follow their advice.

I read this first and didn't even read anymore of the rest of your post. Calm down Jim Rome, you won't "destroy" us just cause you have a radio show, your just another dude who likes sports that's all it's is

[JackS60]

I read this first and didn't even read anymore of the rest of your post. Calm down Jim Rome, you won't "destroy" us just cause you have a radio show, your just another dude who likes sports that's all it's is

Whatever you have to think to help you sleep at night bro.

[Mossback]

. "Don't argue sports with Jackson, he'll destroy you." I'd follow their advice.

So you were 14 or so when the Seahawks played in the 06 Superbowl?
I'll admit, you know a lot of names, but you keep leaving out the effect of the overall organization. Its not just the youth.

I've been following college and the pros for a couple of years (since the early 70's) and the pattern emerges that the coaches and the GM's allow a team to keep winning consistently.

So, saying that, IMHO, Seahawks are going nowhere until they replace Carroll.
I'll check in with you next year at this time to see what's up.

[JackS60]

So you were 14 or so when the Seahawks played in the 06 Superbowl?
I'll admit, you know a lot of names, but you keep leaving out the effect of the overall organization. Its not just the youth.

I've been following college and the pros for a couple of years (since the early 70's) and the pattern emerges that the coaches and the GM's allow a team to keep winning consistently.

So, saying that, IMHO, Seahawks are going nowhere until they replace Carroll.
I'll check in with you next year at this time to see what's up.

I'm not saying the Hawks will win a SB with Carroll, that's likely not happening. But he can probably get us a couple or few more division titles. Not like the Rams have any better organizational setup. I know what you mean the effect of the overall organization, it's a theory of winning built upon the foundations of good coaching. Mike McCarthy is a great coach who learned under others for years. Carroll on the other hand was head in NY and NE and then USC, he didn't directly learn under a better coach in the NFL, which if you look is where much success comes from. I mean that's why Holmgren was so good, learning under Bill Walsh. Heck, that's why many of the teams who have been great over the last 10-15 years have been good- because their coaches learned under another. So yea, I don't expect much. What I'm saying is there's no better organization in the division. The Rams just don't have it I believe. Jackson's going to lose it soon. And their secondary is just so terrible.

On a side note, growing up my family had one tv. So on Saturday mornings when I wanted to watch cartoons, my dad made me watch college football. I may not have been following it since the 70s, but I've been watching sports since I could talk. Heck, I couldn't name you 5 cartoons I watched as a kid. Yet I can tell you all about how Ron "The Dayne Train" won the Heisman at ...Wisconsin (I believe?...or Nebraska) then went to the NFL and sucked basically. One decent year in NY but then crumbled.

[JackS60]

I had my brother do a little checking and he calculated team age by weighing each player’s age proportionately to his percentage of contribution (as measured by the Approximate Value system) and the last 5 super bowl winning teams (I had him stop there. Seemed like a large enough sample set) fell somewhere in the MIDDLE of the spectrum of NFL teams for each corresponding year. Seriously not worth arguing over though. There are WAAAAAAAAAAAYY too many variables that go into every win on any given sunday.

Adam

PS, I had my brother run the numbers cause A: I'm way to busy to mess with this junk and B: He's a professional statistician with a doctorate in mathematics.

Agreed, there are tons of variables. I'd like to see the math that he did and this "Approximate Value System". I still believe, more cores of SB winning teams are built around young developed talent. You don't see many teams like the 49ers win with a player like Alex Smith who suddenly becomes good without any sort of steady increase. Heck I'm not even sure Tony Romo will ever have what it takes. And he's a much better QB overall. Teams like Atlanta (Ryan), Detroit (Stafford), and NY (Sanchez) are doing it right. I'd be surprised if they all don't win SBs in the next 5 or so years. Especially the Jets. Shonn Green needs to pick it up though, which will then open up the passing game further for Mark, who always have numerous weapons.

[The Big Tuna]

Whatever you have to think to help you sleep at night bro.

Being arrogant and cocky will only get you so far in life

[The Big Tuna]

I'm sharing this from my FB page cause this pissed me off so much

I read this response to an article that I saw talking about making same sex marriages legal in WA state.

"Marriage is the union of a man and a woman that is blessed by God. All the laws in the world can't change that.
Maybe this is a good example. If you own a puppy but want people to call it a kitten you can go so far as to make it a law that everyone call your puppy a kitten. Of course you know it's really a puppy, everyone else knows it's a puppy. Most people follow the law but snicker to themselves when they call it a kitten."

This is why I could never do debate class or be a politition, I'd just shoot somebody

[RZT5]

Saw that on your fb page. You can't reason or even talk with people like that, its like trying to communicate with a being from another universe with an IQ of 2.

[The Big Tuna]

It's just sad that there are soooooooo many of these idiots out there

[JackS60]

http://www.pro-footb...og/?page_id=518

That's pretty cool. Hadn't heard of that before.

Being arrogant and cocky will only get you so far in life

I'm cocky and arrogant with sports knowledge but with everything else in life, I know nothing haha.

Regarding the marriage thing, that's so dumb. I go to SPU (a very Christian university) and hear this kind of religious viewpoint on marriage all the time. Sickens me.

[The Big Tuna]

You do realize in the two pages of you "Dropping" sports knowledge on us all you have had no stats to back anything up, just opinions and predictions of mediocre teams making the superbowl in 5years

And the best, the BEST sportscasters out there are the best because they are not arrogant and cocky in their delivery, take a hint from them

[JackS60]

No respect. And actually it does take some cockiness and arrogance to make it to the top. That's the way the world works. If you don't have the belief that you are better than those around you (in going for the same career) then you won't make it. Stats are exactly that, numbers. It's easy to list off numbers. True knowledge of sports comes from understanding those numbers. "We can't just list off stats because that means nothing. It's about interpreting those stats and making meaning of them." -Rick Rizzs. That's a direct quote from the job shadow I did of him last summer.

Don't tell me Sportscenter anchors didn't get to be where they are without being confident and likely a little arrogant at some point early in their career.

[The Big Tuna]

Stats are exactly that, numbers. It's easy to list off numbers. True knowledge of sports comes from understanding those numbers. "We can't just list off stats because that means nothing. It's about interpreting those stats and making meaning of them." -Rick Rizzs.

Stats are important for backing up statements like you have made in this thread, if you can't back them up with your "Understanding/interpretation" of said stats then why would your point/argument/prediction mean 2 Sh*ts to anybody listening to you?

And don't pull out the Respect card like your some big deal, that's bush league

[JackS60]

Because if I listed a whole hell of a lot of stats I would've heard "Those are just numbers, they mean nothing" from everyone like I usually do.

And the fact that you're hating on me for no reason on a f'in Volvo thread is bush league in itself. Isn't this supposed to be about cars? I just mentioned some sports stuff and then when I get attacked that everything I'm saying is totally wrong, I have to defend myself. You want to argue this stuff, send me an email. But this thread is not meant for arguing over this petty crap.

[Mossback]

Isn't this supposed to be about cars?

This is the THREAD ABOUT NOTHIN
Regarding your sports opinions. You don't like to be disagreed with. We just agree to disagree,
It wouldn't continue if you didnt lay down a new challenge with every response.

[The Big Tuna]

Somebody doesn't take criticism very well? I'm not attacking you or hating on you, I asked you to back up what you said, and you didn't. And when you throw out term like "He'll destroy you" it's game on as far as I'm concerned to call you out on all things that we see fault in


This thread was created (by me mind you) as a chat thread for all us NW peeps, it's made as a thread for discussion about anything, so if it's talking about how a sports guy is starting to get posed off, then we shall talk about that sports guy starting to get pissed off

[The Big Tuna]

I can see this going nowhere but bad so.......Chuck the coupe get all fixed up?

[Mossback]

I can see this going nowhere but bad so.......Chuck the coupe get all fixed up?

I agree, the C70's looking really good, Got the hood re-done, new bumper etc. They didn't blend the new paint between the new fender and the kick panel under the drivers door. They blended the door beautifully.
I took it in today, very good shop, they agreed to blend the kick panel and give me a loaner car for the day and a half it would take to finish.

I will probably do a project post on the removable license plate bracket. That came out great, (I'm a little scared to test it at 100+ though, Rye thinks its will be OK though.)