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#41 turbor850

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 05:34 PM

View PostMesoam, on 23 July 2010 - 12:39 AM, said:

i'd like you to bring it back up here around fall

I will do that for you, and I apologize for not making it this year to the Travapalooza, birthday stuff got in the way.
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Posted 23 July 2010 - 06:46 PM

you missed a good one this year :excl:
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:00 PM

OP you can do it.As suggested from a 55 roll. Read my Sig, I have walked a 135I starting in 3rd from 60-120, Half a car.

Go to a Paint Store and get yourself a gallon of Toluene, Mix it @ 15% with your 91 gas for a 3 octane ratings increase so. 91+3= 94 Octane :D It will give you the edge. Also remove the spare tire etc. I have probably run 20 gallons of this myself with :D results.

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:18 PM

View PostAverageVolvo, on 25 July 2010 - 08:00 PM, said:

OP you can do it.As suggested from a 55 roll. Read my Sig, I have walked a 135I starting in 3rd from 60-120, Half a car.

Go to a Paint Store and get yourself a gallon of Toluene, Mix it @ 15% with your 91 gas for a 3 octane ratings increase so. 91+3= 94 Octane :D It will give you the edge. Also remove the spare tire etc. I have probably run 20 gallons of this myself with :D results.

We can get 93 in CT. Also, if you know where to look you can get race gas.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:40 PM

View Postgreekone, on 25 July 2010 - 08:18 PM, said:

We can get 93 in CT. Also, if you know where to look you can get race gas.


Toluene is 114 octane is base form. But you don't want to run more than 20% without adding marvel mystery to keep the cylinders from getting washed out.Even better 96 octane :D . You can get toluene for $15 a gallon at hardware store 10$ @ a paint store. Do the math what ever is cheaper.

Get a few gallons of High octane and a few gallons to get to the race spot, secretly top off and off ya go soon to have a 1000$ in your pocket.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 02:47 AM

View PostAverageVolvo, on 25 July 2010 - 08:00 PM, said:

OP you can do it.As suggested from a 55 roll. Read my Sig, I have walked a 135I starting in 3rd from 60-120, Half a car.

Go to a Paint Store and get yourself a gallon of Toluene, Mix it @ 15% with your 91 gas for a 3 octane ratings increase so. 91+3= 94 Octane :D It will give you the edge. Also remove the spare tire etc. I have probably run 20 gallons of this myself with :D results.

Last time I did that, my exhaust smelled of paint thinner, but I don't think he would care since your car is modded anyways.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:09 AM

View PostTorqueSteer, on 26 July 2010 - 02:47 AM, said:

Last time I did that, my exhaust smelled of paint thinner, but I don't think he would care since your car is modded anyways.

So that stuff actually works? lol . There is a Mobil around here that sells CAM2 for like $8-9 a gallon. Ben will there be issues with running race gas AND the meth?
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 02:55 PM

I'm sure you'll find out :lol:

View PostB Mac, on 26 July 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

So that stuff actually works? lol . There is a Mobil around here that sells CAM2 for like $8-9 a gallon. Ben will there be issues with running race gas AND the meth?

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:23 AM

View Postgreekone, on 25 July 2010 - 08:18 PM, said:

We can get 93 in CT. Also, if you know where to look you can get race gas.

You can't pump race gas into a car that you drive in though.
At least in PA you can't.
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 01:20 PM

:ph34r: We have this locally :ph34r:

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When i go to the drag strip i usually have about 4 gallons in my tank at most, not of race fuel or nothin but just 4 gallons of 93. No spare & all that crap, empty out every compartment, take a nice shit, puke up stuff, cut my hair, free ball it, drive naked, inhale helium. JK haha but i do empty out my car & keep fuel to a min. I only weight 130 lbs so perhaps im cheating already... Ive also ripped out SAS which doesnt weigh anything, removed restrictors on the intake & re-routed the intake hoses. I dont have nearly the stuff you do but be light on your feets i guess. The strip near us is only 1/8 & i pulled a 9.2-9.3 avg with the reaction time of a corpse. Ill have to dig up slips but the 1st two runs i never got paperwork because they didnt have the printer set up. I think my best on record was a 9.3 something. Before i had the simple stage 1 tune i came across a new 335i... it was good from a dig to about 45 mph where he man handled me. at about 2 car lengths before the next light. from about a 10mph roll in 1st i managed to keep it close then it was about 1 car length at 65+ Im not tryin to say "i coulda had him" all fast & furious style but i was surprised thats all. Then felt better at myself being 12 years old & 1/10th the cost haha

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:22 PM

View Postjohnloves850, on 27 July 2010 - 08:23 AM, said:

You can't pump race gas into a car that you drive in though.
At least in PA you can't.

I think thats the case in all states... you have to bring in fuel containers/gas cans and fill those, then you can pour it into your car on your own, but they won't let you pump it straight into the car.

Go for it Ben, nothing to lose, lots to win, give it a shot and worst case, if you get romped on throw on some more mods and offer to re-race.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 10:06 PM

View PostJVC, on 27 July 2010 - 08:22 PM, said:

I think thats the case in all states... you have to bring in fuel containers/gas cans and fill those, then you can pour it into your car on your own, but they won't let you pump it straight into the car.

Go for it Ben, nothing to lose, lots to win, give it a shot and worst case, if you get romped on throw on some more mods and offer to re-race.

lol I'll go low boost for the first race with no meth and do double or nothin or he's a beyotch for the second race...with high boost and meth of course :lol:
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 11:19 PM

why hasn't this gone down yet ben? you've had all week to report back a win :P
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:44 AM

You can get CAM2 straight out of the pump, 110 i believe. Not many stations have it, there is one down the street from my parents place however I haven't seen one around my area though.

I'll most likely put a helping in for when chris brings that goddamn bullet back up here :lol:

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You can't pump race gas into a car that you drive in though.
At least in PA you can't.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:30 AM

View PostHtownTurboBrick, on 27 July 2010 - 11:19 PM, said:

why hasn't this gone down yet ben? you've had all week to report back a win :P

Got some stuff to sort out first....1.) it's effing hot as hell outside, 80's at night....waiting for it to cool off 2.) I have a meth leak but I bought new lines last night and I need to replumb everything, and 3.) I'm still working on this stupid oil leak and I also seem to be losing gear oil :facepalm: .....once those leaks are sorted out, up goes the boost, byebye goes the bimmer
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:53 AM

I hope he wasn't similarly cunning and got it chipped :lol:
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 05:18 PM

View PostB Mac, on 26 July 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

So that stuff actually works? lol . There is a Mobil around here that sells CAM2 for like $8-9 a gallon. Ben will there be issues with running race gas AND the meth?

Technically, lowest octanes will make the most power, but it should work if there is a reason why the ECU would retard timing due to sensed knock, (i.e hot weather conditions.)

Ive run the toluene, 105 and 110 leaded lol, they all seemed to help without touching ignition timing or tuning, even though it goes against theory.

I can't see any issues with race gas and meth together. I guess its possible to face an instance where running a combination of fuels (meth+gas etc.) where the resistance to combustion is so high that it does not ignite.

Edited by TorqueSteer, 28 July 2010 - 05:29 PM.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:58 PM

View PostTorqueSteer, on 28 July 2010 - 05:18 PM, said:

Technically, lowest octanes will make the most power, but it should work if there is a reason why the ECU would retard timing due to sensed knock, (i.e hot weather conditions.)

Ive run the toluene, 105 and 110 leaded lol, they all seemed to help without touching ignition timing or tuning, even though it goes against theory.

I can't see any issues with race gas and meth together. I guess its possible to face an instance where running a combination of fuels (meth+gas etc.) where the resistance to combustion is so high that it does not ignite.

Yeah it seems like I'd be running 1 billion octane fuel at that point....But hey, I'm sure my autozone "street fire" coil can take care of that lol
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 02:06 AM

Optimizing your tune for the octane would be a big help also, running a 93 octane file with 105 octane will do nothing but run the max timing on the 93 program, not max timing for 105 octane :rolleyes:
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 07:18 PM

Ben,

bucklin raced his dad that has a 335i, and just walked away every time from a roll.

he was only running 18t r mani and full 3in with 15psi tune.

u have in hands down

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