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[Platinum 850]

You can't have been WOT in that vid?

I was WOT, I mean you can't make out a lot of things clearly in the video, but the exhaust note noteably changes, right after I state that I am in second gear. I am now curious as to why you don't think I was WOT? not fast enough? or the fact that I didn't break/ lose traction...

[BlackT5]

The fact you didn't lose traction in 2nd gear with stock open diff WOT. What tires are you running?

[Platinum 850]

The fact you didn't lose traction in 2nd gear with stock open diff WOT. What tires are you running?

No vids yet...


I also installed my summers, I had recently purchased some Hankook Ventus K104 (http://www.1010tires...ntus Sport K104), predecessor to the K110 (V12), The grip is amazing with these tires...



I will get a vid soon, just gotta get a passenger willing to hold the camcorder, or finally pick up a Hero Gopro, but sometime this week for sure...

I had posted the above, when I installed them. I was inline to get the K112, but they had a set of four (4) K104 in my size (225/45/17) at a price that I couldn't pass up, I hope the K112 are as good as these, as I will surely be buying Hankook's from now on...

I think its a combination of the new turbo and intake manifold, the fact that I don't hit full boost till ~4100rpm or so... and these amazing tires, I honestly can't put into words how amazing it is to punch it at 17psi or even my 20psi setting and not lose traction in second... (my 22psi setting will lose traction).

I was wondering what you were getting at, as I strongly believe that the car is fast "ish", but was wondering when someone would comment on traction, and the fact that it is existant.

With all that I have done leading up to this summer, I can't believe I don't even have a 1/4 mile track anymore

Because with these tires, this is the first year I sincerely believe that I could have gotten my times down...

[Fudge-Brownie]

The vid shows 60mph-100mph (100kph-160kph) took 7 sec. Thats what I think BlackT5 meant with the full throttle comment, and also the no wheel spin at all in 2nd.

I just did a vid myself, and the car did 5.xx sec 60-100mph at 15psi with the 50 trim. I have Dunlop Sport Maxx tires with the LSD and I break loose under full throttle in 2nd at 3900rpm. So something is up. Might be that turbo? Or maybe the tuning? But 7 sec 60-100mph is off for 20+psi with what you have.

Edited by dublin14, 29 May 2012 - 02:20 AM.

[Platinum 850]

The vid shows 60mph-100mph (100kph-160kph) took 7 sec. Thats what I think BlackT5 meant with the full throttle comment, and also the no wheel spin at all in 2nd.

I just did a vid myself, and the car did 5.xx sec 60-100mph at 15psi with the 50 trim. I have Dunlop Sport Maxx tires with the LSD and I break loose under full throttle in 2nd at 3900rpm. So something is up. Might be that turbo? Or maybe the tuning? But 7 sec 60-100mph is off for 20+psi with what you have.

Your right, Gary... My car is slow . I wouldn't mind seeing what a fast car looks like, and since you just did a vid of your car, why don't you post it up???

[Fudge-Brownie]

Your right, Gary... My car is slow . I wouldn't mind seeing what a fast car looks like, and since you just did a vid of your car, why don't you post it up???

I did not say you have a slow car? Infact I think you've done some great work on it. I said the time of 7 sec from 60-100mph is off for what you have in mods at 20psi? Why do you think BlackT5 said "you can't have been WOT in that vid". Did you not have 40whp more with the old setup? So something is off for sure. And I'll post my new vid no problem if really want me to over the next few days.

Heres a vid if you really want one now at 10ish psi when I only had 2K on the fresh motor. 6sec 65mph-105mph or 110-170kph.
http://volvospeed.co...in/page__st__20

Edited by dublin14, 29 May 2012 - 05:08 PM.

[Platinum 850]

I did not say you have a slow car? Infact I think you've done some great work on it. I said the time of 7 sec from 60-100mph is off for what you have in mods at 20psi? Why do you think BlackT5 said "you can't have been WOT in that vid". Did you not have 40whp more with the old setup? So something is off for sure. And I'll post my new vid no problem if really want me to over the next few days.

Heres a vid if you really want one now at 10ish psi when I only had 2K on the fresh motor. 6sec 65mph-105mph or 110-170kph.
http://volvospeed.co...in/page__st__20

Wow...

I guess its true what they say, sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet...

I was being sarcastic when I made the above comment Gary, but that may have been lost.

As for my dyno graphs, yes they state, that I made 35+ whp less than my previous setup, and nearly, 100 Wheel Torque less... I also went onto say that I would be going elsewhere, as I have nothing against the dyno operator as he is a phenominal tuner, but it makes no sense to strap myself to a completley different dyno at this pointt.

I have probably been to close 6 dyno shops in the past 2-3 years as I have been upgrading my car, and I have yet to get the same results from two different dyno shops, heck last time around I made even less on the one mustang dyno, and days later, I was on another dyno making the ~328WHP & 376WTQ...

I guess I was too subtle that overall I wasn't impressed with the dyno shop that I went to, and as is I had to make this appointment close to two months ago, and to end up with this. I even had one instance where we did nothing to the tune, we simply shut off the car for 10 minutes, while I drained my catch cans and let the fans try and remove the heat soke from the engine bay, and we fired it up, I had lost 40whp on his dyno, no change to the tune, it wasn't knock, as air fuel looked identical to the previous run, just all of sudden I was making 250whp instead of 290+... Tach stopped working so we had to do alot of the final tuning agianst speed vs rpm, which is just retarded, but hey like I said maybe I was too subtle that I wasn't impressed overall, not by the numbers, I could care less its a piece of paper, but I know where my car is at...

As for the video, I'll get you a single gear pull, when I'm in 3rd gear at 100kph or 60mph, and pull striaght through to 160kph or 10mph, I'll do this for all four of my boost setpoints:
- Wastegate: ~12-13psi
- Low: 16-17psi
- Reg: 19-20psi
- High: 21-22psi

I would still like to see this 5.xx second pull of yours at 15psi from 60 - 100mph. Hey you even started a thread in the showroom, and some users were nice enough to post their vids, but nothing from you, I really hope to see this vid... I mean its already shot, as per your comments above, how long will it take you to upload to youtube or photobucket, and post it hear????

[Fudge-Brownie]

Wow.. You felt like you needed to express all that just because I said the time from 60mph-100mph seems off for the boost and mods you have? I wasnt the only one that noticed big guy. Anyways, I wont turn this into a keyboard war. So.. hopefully you figure it out and its faster than ever!

As for the vid, I'll post that vid when Im back home, as I was going to anyways.. didnt want to show up the other guys that were nice enough to show theirs right. Actually H just posted his 60-100mph at 4.99sec with the old setup in the XC wagen.

Edited by dublin14, 29 May 2012 - 09:22 PM.

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[volvos60t5x]

376,698 miles?

i mean kms?

[854TGA+]

376,698 miles?

i mean kms?

No, more like 500,000 + kms. The odometer broke 5-6 years ago.

Maybe 25-30,000 kms on the motor

[volvos60t5x]

lol.....nice!!! high kms volvo. I have about 139k miles on mine, aprox 225k kms

[Platinum 850]

I got my car dyno'd today...

And till I load everything all I have to say in the mean time is: "Giggitty"

[Platinum 850]

So I'll start off with a some updates, then I'll get into the good stuff...

So when I installed the new turbo along with the intake manifold earlier this year, I also installed brand new IPD ignition wires along with brand new Volvo plugs. What I had taken out were a special plug I was experimenting with and had worked out great for over a year in the car. Well the volvo plugs lasted about three months, and then they started to act up, and I know before this gets into a plug discussion this is for anyone who has a car that is no longer considered stock, or has been heavily modified...

So a couple of months ago I re-ordered these special plugs and swapped them out and they have been running great...

Below are pics of the plugs:








The pics above are of the volvo plugs I took out a couple of months ago, and original plugs I had in their before I put in the Volvo plugs. Also before anyone says you cant gap this style of plug, well I did and the car runs phenominally...





The other issue I had recently has been my catch can, if some of you don't remember I had setup up a dual catch can system, with my primary comming directly off of the the line that would normally run to the PTC, now running into a proper catch can, this instead of venting to atmosphere or dumping back into the intake, I had it run to a secondary catch can (overflow). Also I had vented the crankase at the head and ran a T off of the stock line that runs off the head into the stock box below the manifold, well my T ran a 5/8" line directly to the secondary catch can (overflow). My secondary catch can was a spare coolant tank that I had worked the neccesary barbs and drain to be used for this purpose... My original setup had the vent positioned direclty in the cap of the oveflow/ secondary catch can, which ultimately ruined the caps ability to seal properly. My new reworked setup has a standard cap in place and a new port for the filter/ vent. This setup didn't leak one bit at the dyno session... and all day driving today, so all I can say is so far so good, but only time will tell.

Below are pics of engine bay and re-worked catch can, vent system...










Now onto the fun stuff, dyno day, kind of happened out of nowhere... I guess I had setup an appointment at the same place that I had used in the past, when I got my 282whp and 360+ wtq with my 19T setup. The problem is this place has switched owners in the past two years, and they have really long wait times to get on their dyno...

I don't even remember making the appointment, thats how long ago it was, the funny thing is I had been meaning to get this beast dyno'd since I havent really had my laptop in the car to tune it for quite some time, so it was at a point where I felt satisfied with how it was running. All I remember is it must have been around the time I swapped in the special plugs, which is probably over three months ago by now...

Anywas, I get a call today saying that they have a cancellation and my appointment for tomorow (Friday Sept 14) can be pushed up to today if I want??? huh??? I was caught off gaurd, as I had no recolection of my appointment. I dragged my sick ass out of bed, and headed down to the car wash to wash it down, and added some gas (94 Ethanol blened premium, is all she gets), and headed down to the shop...

I was there at about 2:30 this afternoon and I don't think we did our first pull till almost 3:30...

He asked me what I was expecting and I said I have been so dissapointed as of lately, so honestly if I can duplicate the results that I had with the 20G (~330whp), then I would have been contempt...

I have four Setpoints on my boost controller
SP1 is wastegate actuator pressure, ~12psi
SP2, is ~17.5psi
SP3 is ~19psi
SP4, is ~21psi

SP1 run, the dyno operator only ran it upto 6000 rpm, because it was the first run, and he was making sure everything stayed put...
SP1 upto 6000rpm:
I didnt' get a printout of this pull, but the videos that I'll post later will show that I got 254whp and 294wtq


Next time around was SP1 all the way upto ~7000rpm...




Next up was SP2 all the way upto ~7000rpm...





Next up was SP3 all the way upto ~7000rpm...





Next up was SP4 all the way upto ~7000rpm...




All runs over lapping each other...




Vids of each of these runs will be posted soon...

[mdlimy]

edit, lol.

dang nice numbers! pretty suprised with the torque numbers tho, would have thought you would break 400....

Edited by mdlimy, 14 September 2012 - 02:53 AM.

[Platinum 850]

here is the vid of the SP1 to 6000rpm...

http://s1107.photobu...nt=M2U00299.mp4


Finishing up SP1 upt to 6000rpm pull, showing results on dyno screen...
http://s1107.photobu...nt=M2U00300.mp4

[Platinum 850]

edit, lol.

dang nice numbers! pretty suprised with the torque numbers tho, would have thought you would break 400....

Robbie, I would have thought that you of all people would know that as you increase your turbo size (turbine and turbine housing, specifically) and push out how soon in the rpm band the turbo hits full boost you end up reducing your torque as a result. So our tiny little TD04 are torque monsters because we can make gobs of torque by 2800rpm, and thats when this thing starts to build boost...

Also keep in mind that this is a stock motor (unopened), and realisticly I could probably push the boost up and make more torque, but HP wont improve all that much as you can see from my SP3 to SP4, I gain <7whp, while gaining >22wtq... and I dont want to blow it up, but continue to enjoy it as I have been...

[Platinum 850]

here is the complete vid for SP1 upto 7000rpm

http://s1107.photobu...nt=M2U00302.mp4

[greekone]

All on a stock engine, crazy. Good numbers!!

[mdlimy]

Robbie, I would have thought that you of all people would know that as you increase your turbo size (turbine and turbine housing, specifically) and push out how soon in the rpm band the turbo hits full boost you end up reducing your torque as a result. So our tiny little TD04 are torque monsters because we can make gobs of torque by 2800rpm, and thats when this thing starts to build boost...

Also keep in mind that this is a stock motor (unopened), and realisticly I could probably push the boost up and make more torque, but HP wont improve all that much as you can see from my SP3 to SP4, I gain <7whp, while gaining >22wtq... and I dont want to blow it up, but continue to enjoy it as I have been...

i made 405ftlb on a 10cm2 turbine....thats a .76ar, not sure the size of your turbine, still good numbers was just suprised the boost wasnt in a bit earlier. But like i always say, standalone vs turbotuner...seems to always be the reasoning behind the numbers i made.

Motor looks tits btw!