White-male Scholarship


PyROTech
 Share

Time for it?  

23 members have voted

You do not have permission to vote in this poll, or see the poll results. Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.

Recommended Posts

Well, looking at the recent census data that has been released, programs that promote the inclusion and access of minorities won't be as neccessary, as the population shifts from being a white majority, it will also shift in the diversification of power being able to make and change policies that have focused power, plain an simply, to white males.

Is it fair that Harvard turned down 2300 valedictorians last year, but probably admitted a high acheiving Hispanic male who plays the Cello and is gay? No. But that has more to do with the demand for access, and the ability of high and elite educational institutions to supply it.

That is funny because Adam accepted a high achieving Hispanic male who plays the skin flute and is gay into his bed.

nice

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

While reading Eistein's wikipedia page for a reason totally unrelated to race, I found something interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#U.S._citizenship

Einstein became an American citizen in 1940. Not long after settling into his career at Princeton, he expressed his appreciation of the "meritocracy" in American culture when compared to Europe. According to Isaacson, he recognized the "right of individuals to say and think what they pleased", without social barriers, and as result, the individual was "encouraged" to be more creative, a trait he valued from his own early education. Einstein writes:

What makes the new arrival devoted to this country is the democratic trait among the people. No one humbles himself before another person or class. . . American youth has the good fortune not to have its outlook troubled by outworn traditions.[40]:432

As a member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People NAACP at Princeton who campaigned for the civil rights of African Americans, Einstein corresponded with civil rights activist W. E. B. Du Bois, and in 1946 Einstein called racism America's "worst disease".[49] He later stated, "Race prejudice has unfortunately become an American tradition which is uncritically handed down from one generation to the next. The only remedies are enlightenment and education".[50]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Whoa, I totally missed this little gem of awesome. So...because I'm caucasian, it's my fault? Even though my family tree moved here AFTER the civil war? L-O-L

You're right, I forgot that after the Civil War, everything became equal. Never mind the whole Civil Rights debacle that did not occur for another 100 years. 1964 didn't even fix the inequalities, it just made them less visible. To think that minorities have had the means to work in a way that was even comparable to Caucasians since slavery was abolished is ridiculous. Couple that with the absurd amount of welfare programs that encourage stagnant lifestyles, as opposed to growth, and there is a very big problem.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Race is a social construct and dependent on skin color only, created by inequalities from cultures coming into contact where there were competition for scares resources with the more technologically advanced culture dominating.

While you get that ethnocentrism is an inherent part of this equation and drives social inequalities to this very day, many unfortunately do not.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You're right, I forgot that after the Civil War, everything became equal. Never mind the whole Civil Rights debacle that did not occur for another 100 years. 1964 didn't even fix the inequalities, it just made them less visible. To think that minorities have had the means to work in a way that was even comparable to Caucasians since slavery was abolished is ridiculous. Couple that with the absurd amount of welfare programs that encourage stagnant lifestyles, as opposed to growth, and there is a very big problem.

Ok, I would think you'd be able to still see the point here but...

This isn't true, but for sake of arguement, let's say my white family moved here 20 years ago, and were refugees from another country? Then are those white folk still responsible?

Because blacks were persecuted by whites DOES NOT MEAN that white people in this current year are responsible for it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ok, I would think you'd be able to still see the point here but...

This isn't true, but for sake of arguement, let's say my white family moved here 20 years ago, and were refugees from another country? Then are those white folk still responsible?

Because blacks were persecuted by whites DOES NOT MEAN that white people in this current year are responsible for it.

I'm 1st generation on both sides. Nippon/Ireland. If my family owned slaves I owe yang an apology if anything.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ok, I would think you'd be able to still see the point here but...

This isn't true, but for sake of arguement, let's say my white family moved here 20 years ago, and were refugees from another country? Then are those white folk still responsible?

Because blacks were persecuted by whites DOES NOT MEAN that white people in this current year are responsible for it.

You are missing the point, being white in our society inherently gives advantages over those who are not of the white race. I get to choose my ethnicity, if you are not white and visually apparent to be of another race, you automatically have negative stereotypes playing against you from the get go at every level of our social structure and placed into a category you do not get to choose.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You are missing the point, being white in our society inherently gives advantages over those who are not of the white race.

So because OTHER people are racists, I have to pay the toll for getting the privilege[read:inherent social advantage] of being white?

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

So because OTHER people are racists, I have to pay the toll for getting the privilege of being white?

Understanding the latter part of your question can open your mind to a different way of seeing the world, that's all I can really say.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Right, its what I said at the start. There is no color, only human.

LOL, ok. If you are seriously not trolling and would like to learn more about the "toll" you pay for being white this is a good place to start.

http://www.amazon.com/Race-Class-Gender-Margaret-Andersen/dp/0534135668/ref=tmm_pap_title_0

Link to comment
Share on other sites

LOL, ok. If you are seriously not trolling and would like to learn more about the "toll" you pay for being white this is a good place to start.

http://www.amazon.com/Race-Class-Gender-Margaret-Andersen/dp/0534135668/ref=tmm_pap_title_0

Trust me when I say I'm not trolling. However, the odds of me reading that book are slim to none. Only so much time in life, and too many things I value more. But is this particularly motivated by the fact you're telling me that race isn't a choice, but in the be thsame conversation, telling me I have to pay a toll for being white. We all didn't choose our race or social status.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trust me when I say I'm not trolling. However, the odds of me reading that book are slim to none. Only so much time in life, and too many things I value more. But is this particularly motivated by the fact you're telling me that race isn't a choice, but in the be thsame conversation, telling me I have to pay a toll for being white. We all didn't choose our race or social status.

1. Race is not a choice, it is prescribed by your culture and is a social construct, as in the dominant race in the society you live in chooses it for you.

2. You said you pay a toll for being caucasian, not me. You also said it is a privilege, in the same sentence. Which one is it?

3. You are right in the last part, we don't choose our race, again, it is chosen for us. Being of a caucasian skin tone allows those in American society to choose their ethnicity. Any other skin color, and it is prescribed to you, whether it is correct or not.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1. Race is not a choice, it is prescribed by your culture and is a social construct, as in the dominant race in the society you live in chooses it for you.

2. You said you pay a toll for being caucasian, not me. You also said it is a privilege, in the same sentence. Which one is it?

3. You are right in the last part, we don't choose our race, again, it is chosen for us.

1. Agreed.

2. I made an edit to that post that I think wasn't quick enough and you didn't get to read. I don't think its a privilege, I was quoting you, and using privilege to sum up inherent social benefits to being white.

3. Again, agreed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 Share