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[delav18]

Alright- i am not one to race, i know that i drive a front wheel drive wagon, and have accepted the fact that this car doesnt launch well. In any event, i was cut off by a hideous bmw 318 with m3 badges and gross 18" chrome wheels. It was all first class; exhaust tip, dark tint, painted trim, bouncing cut springs, and severe camber problems. The guy cut me off pretty bad, and i gave him a flash of my lights. We ended up next to each other at the light and i tried to avoid association as he stared. As he revved i sat quietly and when the light turned he tore off winding through 1st gear. Once turbo came in, i passed him at about 30 only to leave him several car lengths behind at 70. I slowed down and he ended the endeavor with the classic "ricer fly by."

Maybe he should invest in another m3 badge, im sure ground effects are on the way.

Drive safe all

1994 volvo 855 turbo with thule racks and a bike on top. ha ha ha

[turbor850]

see, what I like to do is leave my hazards on until I can't see them anymore, that really really pisses them off. . .

[VS Legend]

I raced an M540i once. Go figure. Chick driving, too. Obviously wasn't an M5, because I blew past her by 40 . Go figure (again).

edit: and yes, she was racing. Sad, isn't it?

Edited by Legend854T5R, 26 March 2004 - 06:48 AM.

[mynessas40]

I see the 318s and 323 as the most fake M3s around, but I case it's because they got the low ends of the model. But a 540i is good, why slap a M on it? You might trick people better with a Dinan label.

[JDELUNA]

Anyone want to race this BMW wannabe M3 which is a 318ti with M3 rims on it ??? I might even bet that a modded S60R would lose to this one.

http://www.sportsandimports.net/projects/318Ti_2.JPG

[Chopper]

I don't see why people do it. I mean, who is gonna believe it's an M3? There is nothing wrong with having a 318/323...they are not fast straight line cars, but lets hope if you bought one you didn't except to run 12s at the track by dropping $500 into the car...
then again I see that they released a convertable PT Cruiser, so I guess the assumption is that consumer intelligence is fairly low.

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[JDELUNA]

I don't see why people do it.  I mean, who is gonna believe it's an M3?  There is nothing wrong with having a 318/323...they are not fast straight line cars, but lets hope if you bought one you didn't except to run 12s at the track by dropping $500 into the car...
then again I see that they released a convertable PT Cruiser, so I guess the assumption is that consumer intelligence is fairly low.

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Actually the one I showed on the link is what I call a 3/4 M3 or mini-M3, it has the M3 motor and tranny in it, has the M3 brakes, M3 diff, etc. I drove one of Mike Robinson's (THe creator of these monsters) cretions and the one I drove had a modified M3 motor in it, with cams, headers, Euro MF, etc. putting down 300 RWHP, I know it was a red 318ti like the one in the picture, in might even be the same one, but I doubt it cuz he has done so many of these swaps in the past 10 years or so. SO be careful, there are a few of them out there, I know when Mike drives it around he will not waste his gas on a modded Volvo, but will challenge Z06 Corvette's instead, etc.

By the way that was me that posted that

[Chopper]

I just don't understand the 318it. It's so....ugly!

Would be a fun sleeper for that reason though.

Edited by Chopper, 26 March 2004 - 02:41 PM.

[JDELUNA]

The COMPACT never caught on here in the USA, but in Europe they are very popular. Infact I read somewhere that BMW will be bringing the COMPACT version of the M3 here soon, imagine 333hp in a car that has the handling of the M3 but weights probably 300 pounds lighter !!!!

[Chopper]

That should be interesting! I hope it looks good. I personally just don't like the look of the 318it, but each to their own! We also think Volvos are pretty good looking wereas I know a lot of car guys who generally find them ugly/boring.

[ovlov28]

that car has not more than 300 hp at the crank.... active autowerks has a "325" that is now a 332iT it has a 3.2 M3 motor and it is turbo charged, it runs a 12.72 go to their site and check it out.


It has been proven that without forced induction the M3 motor will never been much more than 300 flywheel hp, they are cool motors but they have a very restricetive head, with aggresive cams and all euro parts on the stock U.S. spec head on a 3.2 it has the same power as the euro 95 M3 (286) unless you convert it to the OBDI manifold then it is close or a little over 300 flywheel hp, ActtiveAutowerks claims that their supercharger kit and exhaust on a M3 is 285 rear wheel hp which they say is about 360 at the crank, so that car must have some serious money in it to have 300 WRHP,

they are sweet cars with a M3 motor in them though, i have a video of one getting mass wheelspin out tof a corner on some track it twas sideways from corner to corner, they are very fast cars with that motor, very fast. it would deffinitly give a moded 850 a hard time

[VS Legend]

Okay, you guys seem to be avoiding the facts. If it's not an M you don't put the M on it, PERIOD. If it's not an R you don't put the R on it period. If you do you are just trying to make your car something it's not.

Edited by Legend854T5R, 26 March 2004 - 06:00 PM.

[Chopper]

If I shoehorn a 302 V8 into my car I might just put FORD on there

[Legbend]

I raced an M540i once.  Go figure.  Chick driving, too.  Obviously wasn't an M5, because I blew past her by 40 .  Go figure (again).

edit:  and yes, she was racing.  Sad, isn't it?

I ran a 540i auto. he got me on the launch, but i caught up to him by the end of first... and we were dead even til the beginning of third when we both quit.

[VS Legend]

I raced an M540i once.  Go figure.  Chick driving, too.  Obviously wasn't an M5, because I blew past her by 40 .  Go figure (again).

edit:  and yes, she was racing.  Sad, isn't it?

I ran a 540i auto. he got me on the launch, but i caught up to him by the end of first... and we were dead even til the beginning of third when we both quit.

The roads were wet so I think I might have had a slight advantage. Either way it was nice. Hers was a manual I think, cuz she appeared to be shifting.

[ovlov28]

flywheel, not rear wheel hp i promise, i have all of the project M3 european cars and that car never had more than 250ish at the wheels till it got a turbo, now it has 414RWHP at 14psi.

[JDELUNA]

flywheel, not rear wheel hp i promise, i have all of the project M3 european cars and that car never had more than 250ish at the wheels till it got a turbo, now it has 414RWHP at 14psi.

My BUST ...you are correct they only made 263RWHP with all the bolt ons without the turbo, not bad though using 15% drivetrain loss that is about 310hp at the crank.

[VS Legend]

15% for RWD? I don't think so.