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[--Aaron--]

One of the things that is going to happen with the insurance money is going to be a nice 2 way all in one setup.

I'm torn between Viper, Clifford and CompuStar systems.

I know that I want to add a dual zone proximity sensor to whichever system I go with.

Basically I want something that will 2 way page, start, unlock, lock, panic and pop the trunk. I'll be doing the install myself so if there's any pointers on which wires are where and such I'm all ears. I do know where the ignition wires are due to the device that was previously installed.

Being able to adjust various sensitivity settings from the remote would also be a plus. My wife's Viper system is like that and it's pretty neat being that it takes some tweeking to adapt the alarm to the car's parked living conditions. (Being in the city)

A remote with a nice display is a plus as well.

This system caught my attention: http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item5d26db0f18

Although for the above system I'm having trouble finding a compatible proximity sensor.....

This one's pretty neat too: http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item3cb5c2ad87

Any information is appreciated.

I'm going to spend some time searching around and hopefully find a useful wiring diagram.

I've never installed an alarm before but I'm pretty tool and electronics savvy so with a little direction things should go alright. The only things I'm a little unsure of is how to wire the starter kill, how to pick up the door triggers....I'm assuming a separate wire doesn't need run to each door but none the less it puzzles me a bit. If the system comes with a hood switch that's new to me as well. Although the hardest part there is probably aligning the switch properly.

Educate me.

PS, Steve, if you wanna help me I'll get us steak dinners.

Most importantly I am so tired of my damn factory keyless only working with the remote held up by the driver's side mirror. It has a range of like 6 inches from the receiver on the cluster.

If you need any other information or I left something out just let me know.

Edited by --Aaron--, 28 June 2011 - 02:52 PM.

[--Aaron--]

Hmm, let's start with a simpler question. Does anyone on this board have some sort of advanced, aftermarket keyless entry/security/remote start?

bump

Edited by --Aaron--, 28 June 2011 - 11:57 PM.

[Vagabond]

I'd vote compustar.

They install thousands of them at the shop and they [are solid units with a good feature set if you pay for it.

Edited by Vagabond, 29 June 2011 - 12:22 AM.

[Stormtrooper1]

I've had compustars before and was happy with them. I should get another remote start. Though i don't think i'm keeping the T5 long enough to make it worth my while.

[Vagabond]

A side not, I have a Viper from another project that was never installed, which is what I'll be using, if I ever get a full day to work on installing it.

[--Aaron--]

Vagabond, on 29 June 2011 - 12:22 AM, said:

I'd vote compustar.

They install thousands of them at the shop and they [are solid units with a good feature set if you pay for it.

I was talking to Steve about CompuStar a while back and they seem to be his number 1 seller at his shop. I agree, they seem to be good units. I'm sure he'll chime in with thoughts eventually, hopefully....he sure does have a lot of experience with this sort of thing. My primary audio experience is mostly related to subs and amps, there's a lot of things I need to learn about security systems.

Stormtrooper1, on 29 June 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

I've had compustars before and was happy with them. I should get another remote start. Though i don't think i'm keeping the T5 long enough to make it worth my while.

CompuStar does seem like a solid choice.

Vagabond, on 29 June 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

A side not, I have a Viper from another project that was never installed, which is what I'll be using, if I ever get a full day to work on installing it.

Haha, my wife has a mid level 2 way Viper all in one setup with a dual zone proximity add on. It's a very nice system, the only gripe I have is the remote battery life isn't hardly anything at all. Once in a while the 2 way remote will also unprogram itself which is annoying because then you have to Valet the brain, open the door with the key and drive for a few minutes with the alarm going.

[Vagabond]

--Aaron--, on 29 June 2011 - 12:45 AM, said:

Haha, my wife has a mid level 2 way Viper all in one setup with a dual zone proximity add on. It's a very nice system, the only gripe I have is the remote battery life isn't hardly anything at all. Once in a while the 2 way remote will also unprogram itself which is annoying because then you have to Valet the brain, open the door with the key and drive for a few minutes with the alarm going.

That will happen with any R/S. Maybe not the driving with the alarm part.

Edited by Vagabond, 29 June 2011 - 01:20 AM.

[--Aaron--]

Vagabond, on 29 June 2011 - 01:19 AM, said:

That will happen with any R/S. Maybe not the driving with the alarm part.

Ah ok, one neat feature about her Viper setup is that when the 2 way or 1 way remote batteries are nearing the end of their lives when you come within a certain distance of the car with the remote the siren will give a unique, very fast chirp to let you know.

[mkc70]

--Aaron--, on 29 June 2011 - 01:25 AM, said:

Ah ok, one neat feature about her Viper setup is that when the 2 way or 1 way remote batteries are nearing the end of their lives when you come within a certain distance of the car with the remote the siren will give a unique, very fast chirp to let you know.

Normally can see battery life on the power meter for most 2-way remotes. Compustar features are only accessible via an authorized computer, or the installer handheld programmer(if you need to change a setup). The new 2-way rechargable remote seems nice, though I haven't had a chance to use it yet. Drone GPS phone add on piece is nice, but without a premium plan kind of boring. Prox's are gay, but get one if it makes you feel safer. Since you are doing the install, I would download both install manuals and see which one makes you feel more comfortable.

[--Aaron--]

Cool, thanks for the information! Being that I am not a professional installer I will surely get my hands on all the reading material I can find prior to install, it can only help.

[Owned]

Do some sarching of my threads for alarm info. I posted some stuff about my install.
I would post links but I'm on my phone.

Basically, get CompuStar add a tilt sensor and back up batt.
Proxy is a no-no. The easiest cars to get into when people started using proxies were ones with proxy. Set it off ding dong ditch style enough times and the owner will shut it off. You can do this with shock also but it is more difficult and much less likely to happen.
If you want more, add sirens and a glass break.
I wouldn't go much beyond that.

It should be noted that I have CS pagers in BOTH my 850 and SVO.
My 850 has 7 sirens. My SVO has 1 multi tone, plus 12v air horns. Tilt and back up in both.

[--Aaron--]

Cool, I'll dig up your thread later on when I have time to investigate.

That makes sense, the other thing about my wife's proximity sensor is that if it sets off the car enough times it will actually put the brain into some sort of quiet mode where it stops the alarm from activating because it's getting false detections or something close to that description.

So no proxy then? And CompuStar seems to be the winner. How have your remotes held up? I'm just worried about accidently dropping that LCD, expensive remote and breaking it. Battery life decent?

[Ghost Shadow]

Vagabond, on 29 June 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

A side not, I have a Viper from another project that was never installed, which is what I'll be using, if I ever get a full day to work on installing it.

compustars take me on a x70 about 3.5hrs for a alarm and starter

mkc70, on 29 June 2011 - 03:58 AM, said:

Normally can see battery life on the power meter for most 2-way remotes. Compustar features are only accessible via an authorized computer, or the installer handheld programmer(if you need to change a setup). The new 2-way rechargable remote seems nice, though I haven't had a chance to use it yet. Drone GPS phone add on piece is nice, but without a premium plan kind of boring. Prox's are gay, but get one if it makes you feel safer. Since you are doing the install, I would download both install manuals and see which one makes you feel more comfortable.

thanks for replying back to me about the interior
/rant back on topic...the 901's are sweet, got my demo piece about 3 weeks ago and still have yet to charge it. Drone Mobile, had that for about 1 year now and love it. Prox's are ghey unless its topless. If you say aarons installs you'd tell him to stick to drinking, something he is good at LOL

--Aaron--, on 29 June 2011 - 04:00 AM, said:

Cool, thanks for the information! Being that I am not a professional installer I will surely get my hands on all the reading material I can find prior to install, it can only help.

read about, mike's car is a classic example of why you dont have arron install electrical stuff for you.

Owned, on 29 June 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

Do some sarching of my threads for alarm info. I posted some stuff about my install.
I would post links but I'm on my phone.

Basically, get CompuStar add a tilt sensor and back up batt.
Proxy is a no-no. The easiest cars to get into when people started using proxies were ones with proxy. Set it off ding dong ditch style enough times and the owner will shut it off. You can do this with shock also but it is more difficult and much less likely to happen.
If you want more, add sirens and a glass break.
I wouldn't go much beyond that.

It should be noted that I have CS pagers in BOTH my 850 and SVO.
My 850 has 7 sirens. My SVO has 1 multi tone, plus 12v air horns. Tilt and back up in both.

Agree with 95% of owned reply. 7 sirens? i cant judge because i have hornblasters on my suv, gps, regular siren and regular horn backed up with a pager. on the vert it gets gps, hadley 145db small 1.5 gallon air horn setup, whelen PA system airhorn, whelen 6 head strobes, regular siren, and horn.

vert gets prox, shock, and tilt with battery back up (stinger 2150 battery in the trunk )
suv gets shock and thats all. you want a basically stock 155k+ T6...by all means take it! LOL

I would go with this.

Compustar Pro 901 SS Rechargeable system remote start/alarm combo

add-ons
Touch RPS...real cool piece
battery back-up
tilt sensor

I would be selling that unit for $649 plus the add ons $225.

extra features will be:

PARKING LIGHTS only flashing, no headlamps flashing with arm/disarm
if you do the touch RPS, you have a choice of led colors besides the stock blue color, depends on what is in stock.

--Aaron--, on 29 June 2011 - 11:07 AM, said:

Cool, I'll dig up your thread later on when I have time to investigate.

That makes sense, the other thing about my wife's proximity sensor is that if it sets off the car enough times it will actually put the brain into some sort of quiet mode where it stops the alarm from activating because it's getting false detections or something close to that description.

So no proxy then? And CompuStar seems to be the winner. How have your remotes held up? I'm just worried about accidently dropping that LCD, expensive remote and breaking it. Battery life decent?

Remotes have a factory 2 year warranty, no one else has that.

[--Aaron--]

Haha, I took no part in that wiring mess under Mike's steering wheel thank you.

Man, that setup sounds really nice but I was looking for a system within the $150 to $250 range similar to the Compustar I linked on ebay to. $650 + $225 is out of my price range times like 4.

[Ghost Shadow]

You get what you pay for. Good luck getting warranted on eBay stuff.

He said you wired the guages for him

[mkc70]

Ghost Shadow, on 29 June 2011 - 11:40 AM, said:

thanks for replying back to me about the interior

You made it clear that you wanted it by a specific date or not at all, which I pointed out was not likely going to happen considering I was driving the car daily.

--Aaron--, on 29 June 2011 - 11:45 AM, said:

Man, that setup sounds really nice but I was looking for a system within the $150 to $250 range similar to the Compustar I linked on ebay to. $650 + $225 is out of my price range times like 4.

If you are in the "value friendly" price range and want all the bells and whistles you need to cut features or do the work yourself. There are a few import models in the $125-$175 range that seem nice.

[Owned]

CompuStar ships with a two-stage shock, so that goes without saying.

I have 7 sirens, because there are four pain generators in the interior. It makes sense when your audio retailed for over 10k. The extra two sirens outside are just to make it that much more obnoxious.

[--Aaron--]

mikes gauges were like 2 wires.....2 wires dont compare to that cluster fuck from when he installed that alarm

yeah, there are a few compustar and viper setups in my price range, not worried about warranty so long as its a very reputable seller adverising as BNIB, never had prob buying ebay electronics following that golden rule

i can handle the install, a multimeter leads the way

i just dont want a 900 alarm when i do not have anything to protect other than a high mileage 98 volvo

[DragosD]

How about UNGO SR9000, made by Clarion USA? $149 and free shipping on ebay !!!! This is what I have on my S70.

[Owned]

Ungo is not so great in terms of longevity. They may be better now but back when I was in the business there were reports of lots of repairs/come backs on those.