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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:22 PM

View Postmaciekb2002, on 10 February 2012 - 04:36 AM, said:

I don't want to go with transverse configuration. Engine stays inline with tranny and drive shaft. I will try to acomplished real rwd set up.

Honestly, with a welder. I don't think this will be all that difficult. ANYTHING can be made. Just takes some time and some creativity.

There is a decent amount of space behind the dash (where the heater core is... and won't be. lol) to accommodate a trans tunnel while still retaining a stock dash.

View PostJardim, on 10 February 2012 - 06:03 AM, said:

How are you going to set up the rear suspension to accommodate the changes in drivetrain (FWD to RWD)? are the FWD cars' suspension balanced differently than RWD?
You can do some work to the rear to allow a decent suspension in the rear. Really depends if you are going straight axle, or IRS. And it depends on the intent of the car. Like I said, just takes a welder, and some skill.
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:17 AM

View Postmaciekb2002, on 10 February 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

I went shopping today to scrap yard.
Picked up 130 lbs of square tubing for rear subframe set up.
540 rear end is going in. Hoping this weekend but I am not sure If weather permits.
BTW I work for with guy who buys and sells all kinds of volvo stuff .
I can get my hands on as we speak . 2.4 lpt 2002 s60 engine , s80 turbo engine 2001 , 16v block non turbo yet 1992 . and all bunch of 5 cyl from 90's
S80 turbo engine Is one of the favorites ideas .
Now question. I was wondering if ARD would be able to tune S80 ECU and dis activate all the immobilizer crap and adapt cluster from S80 .
Using S80 harness.
Any suggestions? Always open for new ideas

hey man, heres what im thinking.
Why use the me7 s80 harness and ecu?Im assuming its so you can get away with not using the distributor that wont fit and just use coil on plug ign....
The extent of modifications and work you will be putting into this car deffinetly calls for something better than the stock ems, you need to go with a standalone, naturally i reccomend vems because i have experience with it and the price tag is very very reasonable, although there are tons of other options out there, but if you do choose the vems shoot me a message since ive got tunes/configs for the 5cyl and some experience with it.

Love the 540i rear end idea, post some pics when you get started!

whats your plan for a tranny if you go with the volvo 5cyl?

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:00 PM

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:49 PM

View Postmaciekb2002, on 11 February 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

5 speed zf from bmw e36 chassis.m3 and other models used the same box. Actually i am shopping for that.
Along with an adapter plate from kl racing?

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:33 PM

I've debated changing a couple fwd cars into rwd. I like the 240sx rear end for the conversion. Same subrame setup that holds everything and simply bolts to the chassis. But initial price, replacement parts, and aftermarket parts are cheap. Plenty of gearing options for the r200 diff too.
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 11:37 PM

View PostGideon35T, on 11 February 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

I like the 240sx rear end for the conversion. Same subrame setup that holds everything and simply bolts to the chassis...

That's whats going in the back of my Z. Very minor modifications required.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:21 PM

So after taking so measurements we came out with this idea .
Welder was to weak for the job so it is only tack in the spots .
Next weekend I will attack it with a right tool for this job.
I think I will stick with those tires , 255 /18 , They clear both rails by 1/4 " , It looks like the body with stiff coilover suspension will not have to modified.
I have to make brackets for the front part of the sub frame plus rear mounts need top plate , cross bar ......
Car rolls and it's looking fine !!!


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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:39 PM

Coming along nicely, keep up the good work!
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:39 PM

looking good! subscribing for sure this is one of the crazier builds
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:44 AM

Any idea what your doing in the front?
Decided to use the whiteblock?

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:56 AM

Nice work! That rear setup looks very much the same as Volvo's - I guess they're not going to change that much. Is the rear diff rated for more power?
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:13 AM

View Postlookforjoe, on 05 March 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

Nice work! That rear setup looks very much the same as Volvo's - I guess they're not going to change that much. Is the rear diff rated for more power?
I didn't expect that it will be that easy to make it fit , Engine and Tranny will be bigger challenge
Diff has to be strong enough for 400+ hp.
It will be replaced with LSD from M5 one day , Non om 540i came with LSD
I am very serious about going with T6 from s80 with vems and e38 5 speed

Next step is to install rear coilovers . I know that stock strud towers won't work

Edited by maciekb2002, 05 March 2012 - 04:14 AM.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 05:03 AM

Dare I say...go wider in the back?

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:05 AM

View PostA1C Beiber, on 05 March 2012 - 05:03 AM, said:

Dare I say...go wider in the back?

lol 255s should hook up pretty well, try to stuff those in your front fender beiber! =p

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:08 AM

Fenders....who needs those

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:40 AM

View Postmdlimy, on 05 March 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

lol 255s should hook up pretty well, try to stuff those in your front fender beiber! =p

275's would work, not in the front though lol. but the front now is just for steering, hehe.

Stagger FTW.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:24 AM

RWD = Should be staggered.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:03 AM

So tomorrow it will be long night again.
I am planning to have rear mounted solid , Plates are done.
But I got myself great present for my birthday.
I bought 2 x K24 from AMG v12 turbochargers to be exact Maybach 2003 model . Price $200!!!!! :tup: . They were sitting outside for last 6 months but after taking them apart they are in superb condition.
And yes K24 from any v12 mercedes amg are identical then k24 that volvo s60r v70r uses.
I have totally broken s60r turbo just for parts and I was able to install cartridge right on.
Only little different is that volvo used banjo bolts to attach coolant pipes, mercedes uses o-ringed pipes , nice stainless steel.
I really like how manifold was made , with little flex pipes .
Ports are much bigger on mercedes then volvo . O don't know what Am I going to use ,but will figure something out.
And Yes The s80 engine will rock on 2 k24 . I don't know for how long but I will give it a try.
Now on Monday My friend is going to pick up W58 toyota manual box . It has removable bell housing so it should be easier to make it fit


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Edited by maciekb2002, 10 March 2012 - 04:08 AM.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:22 AM

yessss progress, twin k24s....that things gonna be a screamer.
So you plan to use half of each exhaust manifold with one turbo on each?

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:23 AM

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