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[rbodor3]

http://volvospeed.co...ol_install.html
recommends 0.5mm nozzle (0.02"), but for the aquamist kit which the pump can do 150+ psi and probably a decent flowrate (2gpm+?????)

I'm considering going with a 0.03" because my pump does about 100psi and only about 1.5gpm. Yes, I can buy more nozzles and switch them out, but I'd rather start closer and not have to do anything, than must.

[rbodor3]

I have a 5-gallon tank I was going to fit into the trunk with a primer pump, but have reconsidered using the windshield washer reservoir. Although it's only aboutt 1 gallon. What's everybody's current consumption amount? I run 17lbs boost, non-progressive misting rate.

[lookforjoe]

Volvo5.0 can probably offer practical suggestions - he's been successful with his setup. I'm using the stock reservoir, but I haven't used mine for any consistent period of time. I had many issues with pump volume - I found that pumps rated for 100psi, rarely actually maintained that under flow - did you buy a pump from one of the specific WI vendors?

Also not sure why you would want to use a larger nozzle (than .5mm) when you are using a lower flow pump - I'd think if anything a smaller nozzle would make more sense to prevent pooling.

[Volvo5.0]

rbodor3, on 15 September 2011 - 11:50 AM, said:

I have a 5-gallon tank I was going to fit into the trunk with a primer pump, but have reconsidered using the windshield washer reservoir. Although it's only aboutt 1 gallon. What's everybody's current consumption amount? I run 17lbs boost, non-progressive misting rate.

I use the washer reservoir. I think I fill it about every 2 weeks. I don't run the car super hard though except when I'm working on the tune, which has been a lot lately. Mine is a progressive system that starts spraying at 5psi and is all in at 15psi, so your consumption may be different.

[sconeman]

I'm using a 3 qt under hood dedicated reservoir, refill every two weeks or so with "normal" driving. I would start with the smaller nozzle especially since you're using a pressure switch and if you plan on starting the spray between 10-12 psi You can always step it up if you need to.

here's my reservoir

Edited by sconeman, 15 September 2011 - 12:46 PM.

[boxpin]

I am running a .4 nozzle and swapped out the Aquamist pump for a Snowperformance 250psi pump. Mists great. Mine comes on at 14psi and I am filling the washer reservoir about every week.

[gmsgltr]

I gotta learn more about this and do this soon... any good websites you guys could suggest etc?

[lookforjoe]

Volvo5.0, on 15 September 2011 - 12:13 PM, said:

I use the washer reservoir. I think I fill it about every 2 weeks. I don't run the car super hard though except when I'm working on the tune, which has been a lot lately. Mine is a progressive system that starts spraying at 5psi and is all in at 15psi, so your consumption may be different.

You may have already mentioned this elsewhere, but what does your system use to manage progressive feed? Does it use inj duty cycle/ ign pulse? Mine is straight on/off based on pressure, maybe I need to reconsider that.

[sconeman]

I'm using snow performance stage 1. Just look for whoever has it cheapest, I think I got mine from Summit. I'll be switching to the progressive controller at some point.

[Volvo5.0]

lookforjoe, on 15 September 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:

You may have already mentioned this elsewhere, but what does your system use to manage progressive feed? Does it use inj duty cycle/ ign pulse? Mine is straight on/off based on pressure, maybe I need to reconsider that.

Install a "T" in the vacuum line to the boost gauge and run a line to the controller. Knob on the left is adjustable for starting the mist. Knob on the right is adjustable for full spray.....

[rbodor3]

lookforjoe, on 15 September 2011 - 12:08 PM, said:

Volvo5.0 can probably offer practical suggestions - he's been successful with his setup. I'm using the stock reservoir, but I haven't used mine for any consistent period of time. I had many issues with pump volume - I found that pumps rated for 100psi, rarely actually maintained that under flow - did you buy a pump from one of the specific WI vendors?

Also not sure why you would want to use a larger nozzle (than .5mm) when you are using a lower flow pump - I'd think if anything a smaller nozzle would make more sense to prevent pooling.

No I'm using a shurflo. I just got parts in and am test benching it this weekend, then hopefully install if the nozzles come in.

[lookforjoe]

rbodor3, on 16 September 2011 - 12:42 AM, said:

No I'm using a shurflo. I just got parts in and am test benching it this weekend, then hopefully install if the nozzles come in.

I had a Shurflo pump rated for 120psi. I was lucky if I actually saw 80psi under use. Standards pumps also don't have the recirc valve to prevent 'stutter' in the line....

[the commissar!]

Volvo5.0, on 15 September 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

Install a "T" in the vacuum line to the boost gauge and run a line to the controller. Knob on the left is adjustable for starting the mist. Knob on the right is adjustable for full spray.....

That is what I have too...just not completely installed yet...waiting on air pump removal for tank and pump installation. My only beef is that the wires and vac nipple must come out the side...they should have made it so you could surface mount it cleanly without modification.

I like your location choice...I hadn't considered putting it there.

[Volvo5.0]

the commissar!, on 16 September 2011 - 12:36 PM, said:

My only beef is that the wires and vac nipple must come out the side...they should have made it so you could surface mount it cleanly without modification.

I like your location choice...I hadn't considered putting it there.

I agree. The design of the controller really makes it hard to have a clean install. While I like the Devilsown system, the reviews were good and the price was right, if I did it over again I'd probably go a different route. I'm afraid to run a very aggressive tune, because the system has NO failsafes at all. If my tune was right on the edge and the system failed for some reason, I'd be in trouble. So I keep things conservative just in case. I'm wondering if I could possibly install some type of flow sensor in the line to the nozzle that would alert me in case of a failure?

[the commissar!]

Volvo5.0, on 16 September 2011 - 02:17 PM, said:

I agree. The design of the controller really makes it hard to have a clean install. While I like the Devilsown system, the reviews were good and the price was right, if I did it over again I'd probably go a different route. I'm afraid to run a very aggressive tune, because the system has NO failsafes at all. If my tune was right on the edge and the system failed for some reason, I'd be in trouble. So I keep things conservative just in case. I'm wondering if I could possibly install some type of flow sensor in the line to the nozzle that would alert me in case of a failure?

I've been thinking stealth install of the controller...behind the cuver under the windshield. Adding the low water sensor and having it trigger an audible alarm on my Zeitronics. Then adding a pressure sensor to the lines and having that trigger the same audible alarm if it is below x pressure. Since I have the selenoids in my system it should hold pressure. I guess we will see. I figure pressure is easier and more readily available, sensor wise, to monitor than flow.

[lookforjoe]

Volvo5.0, on 16 September 2011 - 02:17 PM, said:

If my tune was right on the edge and the system failed for some reason, I'd be in trouble. So I keep things conservative just in case. I'm wondering if I could possibly install some type of flow sensor in the line to the nozzle that would alert me in case of a failure?

CoolingMist has this sensor/flow detector:

[Che'_Moderator]

What tune are you using? You want to use as little water as possiable. Tune plays a big role in that

[Volvo5.0]

lookforjoe, on 16 September 2011 - 04:25 PM, said:

CoolingMist has this sensor/flow detector:

Thanks Hussein! Seems like what I need.

Che, on 16 September 2011 - 04:32 PM, said:

What tune are you using? You want to use as little water as possiable. Tune plays a big role in that

I've been playing with turbo-tuner. Right now I'm running 50/50 water/meth. Are you saying to run a higher percentage of meth? Why as little water as possible?

[Che'_Moderator]

Volvo5.0, on 16 September 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

Thanks Hussein! Seems like what I need.



I've been playing with turbo-tuner. Right now I'm running 50/50 water/meth. Are you saying to run a higher percentage of meth? Why as little water as possible?

Run no methanol unless its winter. As for water you only want enough to supress detonation. If you are not getting any at your current timing/boost/load back off until you get a hair then add back say 10% for for safety.

[Volvo5.0]

Che, on 16 September 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:

Run no methanol unless its winter. As for water you only want enough to supress detonation. If you are not getting any at your current timing/boost/load back off until you get a hair then add back say 10% for for safety.

I did a pull with and without WMI to compare. I could try backing off the meth/water a little, but it seems to be doing its job....

http://volvospeed.co...73#entry2006369
Post 172 shows the logs with and without WMI