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#1 Deimos

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:46 AM

So... I've got a pioneer double din in my car, same one I had in my old 850. In the 850 the mast was broken and stuck half up, so I never worried about it and got decent reception. Swapped it all into the S70, which has a perfectly functional mast, and it doesn't get any signal from the head unit. No too surprising, although my adapter harness has a labeled wire for the mast control.

Now... what would it take to put a manual switch on the mast?
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:00 AM

Your post has me confused.

If your Pioneer made the antenna in the 850
go up and down, it should just plug and play.
Did it? Or was is left disconnected because
the 850's antenna was broken?

Did the S70 antenna work OK with the stock HU?
Is the power antenna output fom the Pioneer
connected to the adapter harness lead?
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:11 AM

I don't know if it would have worked or not in the 850 as the 850 had a bad mast that didn't work with its stock unit. The S70s stock HU operated its mast. The harness has a lead in it labeled power antennae mast, which goes into the the lotsa pin plug into the Pioneer, not a single lead from pioneer for that.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:35 AM

I guess my only real concern is whether it needs to be a toggle switch or a momentary switch, I've got wiring diagrams and whatnot.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 04:47 AM

It would be a maintained switch.
If you really want a switch, an OEM
antenna switch would be perfect.
But now I gotta know...Which Pioneer?
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 05:03 AM

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I've got a spare foglight switch which should work... but I'm probably just going to stick a little radioshack toggle somewhere hidden.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:55 PM

That Pioneer has a Blue/White for the antenna and/or an amp.
Why not just hook it up? Then you can run it through a switch
if you want and have an auto antenna with a manual override.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:20 PM

Hm... I'll check the harness... that may be the one it's trying to use and failing with. I wouldn't care about manual override if the pioneer would do it.
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 05:40 AM

Well, I got lazy and tied it into the accessory circuit so it's up whenever the radio is on. The lead out of the pioneer harness that is supposed to be for the antennae doesn't do stuff, that's what it was wired to.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:38 PM

I wired an antenna switch for my pioneer radio. Antenna wire is the same wire as amp signal wire. So if you connect your antenna itll always be on or up when the deck is on.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 10:30 PM

View Post831t5r, on 06 February 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

I wired an antenna switch for my pioneer radio. Antenna wire is the same wire as amp signal wire. So if you connect your antenna itll always be on or up when the deck is on.

There was a wire in my pioneer's harness labeled specifically 'Antennae' but it didn't do jack. There isn't one labeled for amp trigger, and I don't have any other amps at the moment.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 12:37 AM

Well the 2 ive had are wired the same. Both instructions for both pioneers say blue/white wire i believe is either for amp on or antenna. But either way its constant power when keys on so antenna would be up regardless what source you listen to
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:11 AM

Ya, this one had a solid blue labeled antenna, no blue/white. Dunno... but I'm getting the same effect with it on the accessory circuit.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:16 AM

Some of A/M HU's only fire up the antenna control when the radio is selected.
Power it up in CD mode or some other input, you'll get nada on purpose.

There's also a chance that since your Pioneer was originally installed in a
car with a hosed antenna, you may have smoked the HU's antenna output.
Not remarkably likely, but certainly possible.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 04:31 AM

It was originally in a car with a hosed antennae, as I noted above. Guess I fried it, oh well. Yes, I know it's supposed to only go up when it's set to radio, and I would like that functionality... but it's not happening with this one and I'm not upgrading any time soon.
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 08:03 PM

View PostBEJinFBK, on 10 February 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

Some of A/M HU's only fire up the antenna control when the radio is selected.
Power it up in CD mode or some other input, you'll get nada on purpose.

There's also a chance that since your Pioneer was originally installed in a
car with a hosed antenna, you may have smoked the HU's antenna output.
Not remarkably likely, but certainly possible.

it's just a 12v output. check and see if you have any output with a DMM when you are in radio mode. otherwise, you can use the same wire for the amplifier to signal the antenna to turn on. Or, you can run a 12v acc switched wire to a switch and then to the antenna signal lead. when you decide you need the antenna, just flip the switch. it isn't momentary, either.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 01:38 AM

Ya, I'm fine with it being always up for now... have been on radio since I got it working, so nice to be able to listen to again.
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