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[SRTthis]

can they be ANY SMALLER?!?!?!?! it took me 10 minutes to find the one on my exhaust cam and i STILL havent found the one my crank pulley!

any one have any tips for finding this damn thing before i lose any more hair!?!?!?

[Ihatespeedbumps]

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You might need to talk to your eye doctor.

To find the marks on the crank it's easier if you remove the crank pulley, but if you can't then you'll looking for the notch on the oil pump to be between the two notches at the back of the crank gear.

disregard the info on the camshafts, but the picture for the crankshaft will give you a clear idea of what the timing marks should look like.

http://volvospeed.co...elt_change.html

[SRTthis]

Ihatespeedbumps, on 12 December 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

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You might need to talk to your eye doctor.

To find the marks on the crank it's easier if you remove the crank pulley, but if you can't then you'll looking for the notch on the oil pump to be between the two notches at the back of the crank gear.

disregard the info on the camshafts, but the picture for the crankshaft will give you a clear idea of what the timing marks should look like.

http://volvospeed.co...elt_change.html

i have the balancer off. only mark i can actually see is the big pointer on the hub to the balancer. and i have it lined up with the mark on the oil pump.

[SRTthis]

ok i went off the big pointer on the crank pulley with no luck...

buddy of mine in Sweden sent me the stuff the dealer uses and the mark is being shown in the actual pulley itself, after checking mine last night i dont have a mark in mine. a how to i had said the mark is about the size of a needle. is this true?

[SRTthis]

is the mark at TDC? setting it to TDC and setting the cams off the marks would be easier then pulling the pulley off again

[xallenx]

I'm on the same boar on my xc90:

http://volvospeed.co...these-see-pixs/

DO you see dots on your cams like the ones on mine?

[SRTthis]

xallenx, on 15 December 2011 - 03:33 AM, said:

I'm on the same boar on my xc90:

http://volvospeed.co...these-see-pixs/

DO you see dots on your cams like the ones on mine?

mine didnt have dots...
mine had dash marks like these


the crank is the one i cant find. i actually got some free time again tonight so im going to go back out and start working on it again

[ping23]

turn the crank until the cams line up if you cant find the crank notch, then look very closely at the crank to see if you can find it..i believe when its lined up its slightly off TDC

[SRTthis]

Does anyone know if the exhaust cam is timed in its free state( no oil pressure) or its preloaded state (fully advanced) ? I've tried both tonight and it locks up at 1/4 turn at free state and I may be a smidge off (maybe a tooth) at advance state but it bearly kisses a piston but it turns over.

[SRTthis]

ok so i tried turning the cam to get it to its preloaded state (where the cam actually turns) and i can get about a 1/4 turn of the crank and it stops. i went off the back timing mark (driver side) where the marks are flat. and this allowed the motor to turn over by hand. hopefully later this week i'll have everything back together and it will run. since it seems no timing mark on this pile of junk is right

[Keaton85]

What are you doing here? are you installing a new belt or what? nothing sounds correct or it's the way you are stating it that's really not making sense.

[SRTthis]

please delete, on 20 December 2011 - 12:55 AM, said:

What are you doing here? are you installing a new belt or what? nothing sounds correct or it's the way you are stating it that's really not making sense.

my car threw the belt...

i replaced the head already with a head that didnt have any bent valves.

i have the crank pulley timing mark aligned with the mark on the oil pump that didnt get removed

i have the intake cam timing mark aligned with the mark in the cover

i have tried the exhaust cam timed with the VVT pulley at its free state and the mark aligned and the mark aligned with the slack out of the VVT pulley

both end with the same result. about a 1/4 turn of the crank and the motor stops.

ive tried it with the cuts on the driver side of the cams being flat ( per 850 directions i had) and the motor turns over fine but with it like that the exhaust cam timing mark is WAY off. but the intake is correct

[Volvo5.0]

SRTthis, on 20 December 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

i have tried the exhaust cam timed with the VVT pulley at its free state and the mark aligned and the mark aligned with the slack out of the VVT pulley

Was the VVT hub/gear assy. removed from the exhaust camshaft at any time during the head removal or installation process? If so then the cams MUST be locked from the rear when the VVT hub is re-installed. That's the only way to get it installed properly.

[SRTthis]

Volvo5.0, on 21 December 2011 - 02:27 AM, said:

Was the VVT hub/gear assy. removed from the exhaust camshaft at any time during the head removal or installation process? If so then the cams MUST be locked from the rear when the VVT hub is re-installed. That's the only way to get it installed properly.

nope... took the whole cam out as one piece

sick motor in your car. i know that intake from a mile away!

[Volvo5.0]

This picture shows the timing marks pretty well. Note.....The picture shows the VVT on the intake, yours is on the exhaust.....

[SRTthis]

thats how i had it timed... talked to an ex volvo tech over on yellowbullet and he said i need to turn the VVT cam 90 past the mark then back into place. im going to give it a shot next week when im off along with a few other things.

[Gilhuly]

I usually don't hang out here with the new cars, but I know how to handle this. Set the notches on the drivers side level with the deck. The exhaust gear will be way off. This is where you need a cam locking device or another person. I stuck a piece of angle iron in the slot and put vise grips on it or something. Have your buddy hold the exhaust cam in place while you twist the gear counter clock all the way and then let it back enough to catch the first available tooth and get the belt on. Trust me that's the clearest explanation you'll find on the internet.

[SRTthis]

Gilhuly, on 22 December 2011 - 02:10 AM, said:

I usually don't hang out here with the new cars, but I know how to handle this. Set the notches on the drivers side level with the deck. The exhaust gear will be way off. This is where you need a cam locking device or another person. I stuck a piece of angle iron in the slot and put vise grips on it or something. Have your buddy hold the exhaust cam in place while you twist the gear counter clock all the way and then let it back enough to catch the first available tooth and get the belt on. Trust me that's the clearest explanation you'll find on the internet.

thats how i have it sitting right now with the exhaust cam slot parallel with the deck. but my VVT hub automatically pulls counter clock. so the exhaust cam mark wont line up at all?

[SRTthis]

any reports of cam's being 180* out?

[Volvo5.0]

SRTthis, on 02 January 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

any reports of cam's being 180* out?

This is what the cams should look like when viewed from the rear. Make sure the slots are offset as shown or you could be 180 out....





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