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#1 gmsgltr

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:14 PM

The wagon will be getting some new 18x7.5 wheels soon with 225 40 tires offset 43

Currently I have 17x7 volans offset 43 no spacers in front and 15mm in rear, Ipd blue springs and koni yellows all around

I dont really want to roll my fenders but I am open to it, basically I dont want major rubbing and I dont want to run into problems while fitting so I want to figure some things out now, in advance and buy some sets of spacers etc.

I did some calculations and found I need 6mm all around to compensate for the slightly wider wheel... am i right haha?

Anyway I am hapy with the feel and performance and the current drop but want to accentuate the new wheels as much as possible... what should I do spacer-wise and where should I get them!

How many of you guys have attempted to just roll the inner fender lip on the 850s? The metal lip.

Looking to get them flush but not hella flush or poking or anything lol


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#2 kalvin

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:29 PM

With those shoes I would go with a 10f/30r. I know it seems like a lot but the rears sit so ridiculously far in as it is that it makes it necessary. This direction should get you just under flush.

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#3 gmsgltr

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:43 PM

ok thanks! i am going to buy a few sets of spacers and see what works and what i like and sell the rest, people on here are always looking for extra spacers...

with the volans and the drop 20mm rears didnt work... rubbed threw the liners to bare metal :(

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#4 kalvin

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:47 PM

Can't go wrong with more spacers. Good luck!

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:27 PM

I have Columba's or whatever on the car with 20mm's and they're okay I guess. I would say you definitely need to roll the fenders.

I've done mine twice and a few other cars. With an Eastwood roller and a heat gun, it's simple.
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#6 gmsgltr

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:16 PM

Roller it is I guess, I will ask Adam where he rented his... also get myself some 5mm, 10mm and maybe 20mm spacers... ugh $$$ :(

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:25 PM

why do you think the wheel will cause rubbing....unless you plan on running bare alloy, then i would say your tire size needs to be adjusted if you want to prevent rubbing
but if you are hell bent on riding 'flush' and slammed, then you will need to adjust tire size, spacing, fender liners, and fenders.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:04 PM

When it comes to changing your set up and finding the right fitment..don't settle for some weak a$$ wheels and spending all the extra money on spacers trying to get the right fitment. That's not the right way to do it. Worst way really. The only thing that's gonna do is make your car look like a damn clown. To me, an aggressive fitment is not just by making the rubber or the lip of the wheel lick the fender, you gotta look at it from the back and make sure all the muscle is exposed from that view also. That's the most important part.

You need to spend time test fitting wider wheels and calculating the correct tire size and the correct brand of tires. While avoiding using bigger spacers as much as possible. There are a few things you need ask yourself before doing this

1. Is this set up fits your style of driving?
2. Is this going to be my daily?
3. Do I want a more aggressive set up? (meaning fatter tires)
4. Or am I gonna keep it real like it's 1999 and use "low profile" tires?

Remember that most tires out there all have different size sidewalls even if they're the same size. Especially the all seasons tires. This will have an affect on your journey on finding the right set up.

When you could barely get the middle part of the tires sidewall to squeeze in (with no more than 15mm spacers)..that's the perfect set up. And that is the perfect time to get your fenders rolled! You want to roll to make it fit you don't want to roll to make room.

Find some 17x9 or 18x9 all around. Toss that 18x7.5 weakness. =D
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 09:37 PM

If your low, you will have more trouble with 225's then I think you want. That wagon is way to purty to be yanking and rolling. Just my .02.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:48 AM

Im running 235/75/17's on Tethys, and I feel with just an inch drop (Achieveable for me by using regular GLT AWD Nivomats instead of the XC Nivomats) I think my wagon would sit perfect.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:49 PM

If your low, you will have more trouble with 225's then I think you want. That wagon is way to purty to be yanking and rolling. Just my .02.

Gary


Thanks Gary, I agree. May have to get new tires for them honestly... gonna loose money but these are the wheels I want for sure...

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:41 PM

So you finally found Tritons? haha
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:09 PM

yes sir :) not yours though... jerk... haha

what size tires are your tritons Bret??

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 05:39 PM

yes sir :) not yours though... jerk... haha

what size tires are your tritons Bret??


Same as all the others. 18x7.5. I still kinda want to sell mine, but then I don't. I dunno.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 12:26 AM

tire size mr. brett not the tritons! i know they are all 18x7.5! first you dont sell them to me and now you dont answer my question... haha

just curious because i am finding out more and more 225 40 r18 on my ipd blues and koni yellows is gonna be RUB.

Im running 235/75/17's on Tethys, and I feel with just an inch drop (Achieveable for me by using regular GLT AWD Nivomats instead of the XC Nivomats) I think my wagon would sit perfect.


75 aspect ratio! you mean 45? haha

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 01:35 AM

Whoops. I have 205 40's on them now. 225s will rub fo sho.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 01:49 AM

Im running 235/75/17's on Tethys, and I feel with just an inch drop (Achieveable for me by using regular GLT AWD Nivomats instead of the XC Nivomats) I think my wagon would sit perfect.


This is so completely irrelevant to the original post.

#18 kalvin

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:00 AM

tire size mr. brett not the tritons! i know they are all 18x7.5! first you dont sell them to me and now you dont answer my question... haha

just curious because i am finding out more and more 225 40 r18 on my ipd blues and koni yellows is gonna be RUB.


The 225s will rub. This bit is true. What is not being pointed out is where. You will rub on the inner fender wells. This can be solved fairly simply with a good set of spacers. Otherwise I don't see where else you will rub with your current suspension set-up.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:33 PM

The 225s will rub. This bit is true. What is not being pointed out is where. You will rub on the inner fender wells. This can be solved fairly simply with a good set of spacers. Otherwise I don't see where else you will rub with your current suspension set-up.


Ehhh, yes and no. The rear is going to rub the outside well with the spacers he has and a 225 tire. Ask everyone about my debadged rears at Carlisle two years ago.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:12 PM

Wow, yeah... I could have sworn I typed 45. Stupid Keyboard Dyslexia. Just posted that to say that 17x7's will fit in the front wheel wells.

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