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[volvo]

GROUND BREAKING NEWS


I just spoke with Kevin of CXracing, Co-Owner of the business

I have been in contact with him for quite a while, heres the deal.


After contacting him and explaining how much the rods are helping the aftermarket I mentioned he should offer a 5 cyl tubular manifold T3/T4 flanged

He hastily agreed and wants a car to do the mock up on...
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My car unfortunetely is to modified, or I would hop on this in a second


I need a fairly stock 850 turbo for mock up!

He will keep the car 1-4 days and mock up a manifold, intercooler kit, piping and downpipe

FOR FREE for the donor car

He will be offering the manifolds for 300-400$ shipped, complete tubular. with wastegate attachment hole/block plate


I need a test dummy from the Southern California area to drive over to cxracing and have them fab this up



TESTER WILL GET A FREE TUBULAR MANIFOLD AND INTERCOOLER KIT TO KEEP


Contact me if you are interested send me a PM, SOCAL only!

I Am also meeting with the owners of the company to discuss some designs that need to be in the market!













Dear xxxslangxxx,


Hi,we can mock up a manifold for you, please call ###_###-#### ask for Kevin,thanks.

- cxracing
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From: xxxslangxxx
To: cxracing
Subject: Other: xxxslangxxx sent a message about CXRacing Volvo 850 H-Beam Connecting Rods 139.5mm Rod Length #140709746890
Sent Date: Mar-12-12 12:43:53 PDT


Dear cxracing,

just to let you know, I am one of the mods of volvospeed.com/turbobricks.com/s60r/ and swedespeed.

If you were to make a tubular manifold of the volvo 5 cylinder, it would be a HUGE sucess in the aftermarket scene, guaranteed you would sell out in the first couple months 50-100 units.

as long as price is down in the 250-400$ range it is feasable.

with wastegate hole but also a plug if running internal.

t3/t4 flanged


- xxxslangxxx

[Oreo931]

LOL @ you being a mod.

[Aequitas_Veritas]

lol you are a moderator on every volvo site? since when?

My car isnt exactly stock, but has a stock engine and everything is pretty close to stock in my engine bay at least in regards to the turbo. Plus I could spare my car. But you don't really like me. lol

[ozzimark]

Disregarding the above two posts for a moment here...

If the option is available, we should keep a few things in mind. The "R" manifold has quite good performance for the price, will accept some pretty large turbos, and will basically never crack.

To be viable, the CX racing manifold must offer at the very least one of the following:

• Noticeably better turbo spool or top end performance than the R mani. Both would be nice, but may be a challenge
• Lower price
• Accepts a larger range of turbos than the R mani
• Will last a significant period of time without cracking

[volvo]

Disregarding the above two posts for a moment here...

If the option is available, we should keep a few things in mind. The "R" manifold is already quite good, will accept some pretty large turbos, and can be had rather affordably.

To be viable, the CX racing manifold must offer at the very least one of the following:

• Noticeably better turbo spool or top end performance than the R mani. Both would be nice, but may be a challenge
• Lower price
• Accepts a larger range of turbos than the R mani
• Will last a significant period of time without cracking

First of all, the R manifold while being more efficient has not only ONE but TWO complete 90* bends in it...

HIGHLY inefficient, a tubular manifold will be better in all aspects,

I dont need to see numbers to believe it, tubular manifolds are the shiiit.

lol you are a moderator on every volvo site? since when?

My car isnt exactly stock, but has a stock engine and everything is pretty close to stock in my engine bay at least in regards to the turbo. Plus I could spare my car. But you don't really like me. lol

I only dont like you because you told everybody I crashed my car. If your serious we can work around our differences.

Only if you let me play mario 64 on that sweet carputer.

LOL @ you being a mod.

<3

[ozzimark]

First of all, the R manifold while being more efficient has not only ONE but TWO complete 90* bends in it...

HIGHLY inefficient, a tubular manifold will be better in all aspects,

I dont need to see numbers to believe it, tubular manifolds are the shiiit.

I never said the R manifold was the best. I'm just pointing out that it is capable of supporting pretty high exhaust flows before it really becomes a restrictive point in the system, and for how much it can be obtained for, it's going to be a hard sell for anyone not trying to push over 400whp.

It is also imperative that this tubular manifold not just be put together, but some educated insight goes into the runner lengths, diameter, collector angle, etc., to make sure that what they're building is really an improvement over what we can already get.

Btw, a tubular manifold is gonna have a lot more than two 90º bends in it, if you're gonna get worried about that.

[fischmama]

Didn't OBX mess up the redblock turbo manifolds? They are upside down or something like that. IDK.

The only way I would choose a tube manifold is that it allows me to fit a bigger turbo back there with a good designed port for an EWG.

[volvo]

I never said the R manifold was the best. I'm just pointing out that it is capable of supporting pretty high exhaust flows before it really becomes a restrictive point in the system, and for how much it can be obtained for, it's going to be a hard sell for anyone not trying to push over 400whp.

It is also imperative that this tubular manifold not just be put together, but some educated insight goes into the runner lengths, diameter, collector angle, etc., to make sure that what they're building is really an improvement over what we can already get.

Btw, a tubular manifold is gonna have a lot more than two 90º bends in it, if you're gonna get worried about that.

First of all, the bends arent instant like an R manifold,

Its purely ignorance that would lead you to believe a properly made tubular manifold would have less gains than a R manifold

I mean comeon bro, runner length blah blah blah blah

This is not a swiss watch, It is a turbo manifold.

IT will be T3/T4 flanged not for our Td04 turbos!

He is making a complete bolt on t3/t4 kit, including turbo downpipe, intercooler and header!

I will not argue this matter any more, a tubular manifold for 5 cyl engines will be a GAME CHANGER

Didn't OBX mess up the redblock turbo manifolds? They are upside down or something like that. IDK.

The only way I would choose a tube manifold is that it allows me to fit a bigger turbo back there with a good designed port for an EWG.

This is not OBX I REPEAT

THIS IS NOT OBX

this is CXracing.

completely different company!

[T5Hammy]

Like the Idea a lot, but I have a feeling it will be made from stainless, which isn't bad but will likely crack before an R mani would. And as I recall tube manifolds have been proven to be a minor improvement over the R mani, or at least thats what Che' says, not sure he ever found the dyno sheets, so not sure it will be a game changer but still a decent option.

[volvo]

Like the Idea a lot, but I have a feeling it will be made from stainless, which isn't bad but will likely crack before an R mani would. And as I recall tube manifolds have been proven to be a minor improvement over the R mani, or at least thats what Che' says, not sure he ever found the dyno sheets, so not sure it will be a game changer but still a decent option.

To anyone wanting to put a T3/T4 turbo, this will be a game changer.

Everyone is slowly starting to realize that the TD04 family is useless,

with tuning options that lucky is bringing to the table we can easily run larger family of turbos now ie. t3/t4 the most common setups around.

This will be a huge step in the aftermarket for 5 cylinder volvos, I dont understand how you all dont see this..

take a look around at high hp cars everyone has a tubular manifold,

sweden 5 cylinder monsters? tubular.

Big power hondas? tubular.

Monster STI's / EVO's? tubular.

the list goes on.

[Zappo]

$400? Probably crack in the first year.

[volvo]

$400? Probably crack in the first year.

He will offer 3 year guarantee on it.

It will be a quality manifold im assured, cxracing has quality parts if you do some research.

[T5Hammy]

To anyone wanting to put a T3/T4 turbo, this will be a game changer.

Everyone is slowly starting to realize that the TD04 family is useless,

with tuning options that lucky is bringing to the table we can easily run larger family of turbos now ie. t3/t4 the most common setups around.

This will be a huge step in the aftermarket for 5 cylinder volvos, I dont understand how you all dont see this..

take a look around at high hp cars everyone has a tubular manifold,

sweden 5 cylinder monsters? tubular.

Big power hondas? tubular.

Monster STI's / EVO's? tubular.

the list goes on.

I'm in the process of a T3/T4 swap now, for a 50 Trim I wouldn't even consider this, ~175-200 for R mani, 25 for an obx t3 adapter, I can run EWG of a divorced tube from the internal port, and the R mani will last longer and be lower profile. I'm not saying these won't sell just I see no need for them for most people (but I weld and fabricate so that may be why)

[volvo]

225$ total VS 300 total for a complete header with more gains? I dont see your logic

Saving money 75$ really going to steer you away from a complete upgrade? hmmm

[T5Hammy]

Oh and seriously, Thanks for doing some leg work to try and improve the volvo aftermarket! even if It doesn't work out I know I appreciate people trying to advance our options.

+1

[volvo]

maybe this is why the volvo aftermarket is so sh1tty...

Oh and seriously, Thanks for doing some leg work to try and improve the volvo aftermarket! even if It doesn't work out I know I appreciate people trying to advance our options.

+1

much love bro

[T5Hammy]

Check this first
those are much nicer mani's and still offer minimum gains I don't significant improvement will be seen, but if some dyno sheets prove me wrong I would probably run a tube instead of an r mani

[ozzimark]

Its purely ignorance that would lead you to believe a properly made tubular manifold would have less gains than a R manifold

Bro. Don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I love the idea, I'm just offering suggestions on how to avoid making a shitty product that is gonna be pointless. Make it a decent part with notable improvement in performance and good durability, and we'll get somewhere.

And ignorance? Don't get me started.

$400? Probably crack in the first year.

Thank you, someone else with common sense in here.

[Volvo5.0]

Keep an open mind. IF the quality was decent, I'm sure it would sell. I doubt I would ever need one, but I'm sure there would be a market for it if the price and quality was reasonable. How much did Hussein pay for his anyway? Hell, instead of mocking up a car, maybe Hussein could send his to CXRacing (while his motor is being built), and they could just reproduce his design. Obviously that would be his call of course. Give him the freebie for his trouble, and let him sell it.

[fischmama]

This is not OBX I REPEAT

THIS IS NOT OBX

this is CXracing.

completely different company!

My bad.