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B5204T3 - T5 Engine 850 / S70 / S80 - Any Infomation On This?


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#1 Network

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:46 PM

Hi,

 

For a period of time Volvo made available a 2.0T T5 branded engine. This was for specific corners of the market where strict taxation rules applied. I have seen these engines in S80's, C70's and S60's (wikipedia mentions the 850, S70 and S80 only.)

 

This specific engine had an power output of 225bhp (or 222bhp according to wikipedia.)

 

My question is... What engine was this specifically based of, and what setup was it carrying? Was any of the internals uprated? etc.

 

Information regarding this engine on the internet is almost non-existent. I was hoping someone here on the Volvo performance forums could shed some light onto the subject. I'm sure it would do good for a lot of people who may ask the same question in the future, or who have already looked and couldn't find anything.

 

Thanks!

 



 


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#2 wizzard_al

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:02 AM

Answer to your other post:

If you can, try to find out what transmission is in the car. If it is the same as the 2.3 or 2.4 litre 5 cylinder, you won't have any more problem than anyone here in the states in pumping more power through it. If different, it would help to know which trans it is.

"Lucky" Arnold, ardideas.com, tunes these cars. Don't know if he's seen a 2.0 5 cylinder, but if you can somehow get the stock tune to him, he can help tune it, and give ideas for changes. SNAAB makes an intake pipe from the air filter to the turbo itself, helps free up the airflow. Might look into that to give every little bit of help. With the short stroke of this engine, it ought to rev even higher than the 2.3 or 2.4 L engines.

 

For this post, it is basically the same engine as other 5 cylinders, except stroke is 77 mm, instead of 90 mm. Other changes might be cams, but otherwise, aside from tune, it ought be nearly identical.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:29 AM

Pretty much identical engine as the 2.3 except for the mentioned shorter stroke crank. 

Also comes with a 13G turbo although I'm not sure about the 225 HP version. There's also a 210 HP version. 

Everything 2.3 fits the engine. 


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:57 AM

2.0 T5 for 850 has 210 hp

2.0 T5 for S70,V70,C70 has 225 hp

No more Volvo`s had these engines. Those 2 litre turbo engines in S80 and S60 was LPT 2.0 with 180 hp i think. Some sa, that S80 had them, but i haven`t seen them.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:58 AM

I have one :)

uses slightly less fuel than the 2.3, on paper has the same torque... I think not... it was never as punchy as the 2.3. But it liked to rev to 7000.. for a while.. :)

Actually there were R models with the 2.0 engine, that was the 225hp variant. The others are 210hp


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:36 AM

A few S80s came with this engine(225hp) in a short time period around 2000.
most of them are in S60,S/C/V70 with 163hp (lpt) or 180hp (hpt) and fitted with 12t iirc.
the old 210hp and newer 225hp versions called 2.0 t5 as mentioned before
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:21 PM

Yup I owned one of these Europian version R-s.
B5204T3 '98 from a V70R AWD --->225HP
16T
white injectors
77 stroke
81 bore
139.5 rods
Cams: don't know, can check later the numbers on them


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:47 PM

I neverheard them called "R".
The 850R models here 250hp, s/v70s are 260hp.

I never heard them called "R".
The 850R models here 250hp, s/v70s are 260hp.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:41 PM

2.0 T5 for 850 has 210 hp

2.0 T5 for S70,V70,C70 has 225 hp

No more Volvo`s had these engines. Those 2 litre turbo engines in S80 and S60 was LPT 2.0 with 180 hp i think. Some sa, that S80 had them, but i haven`t seen them.

 

Hi, these engines where avalible as options for the S60's / S80's in some countries. I have seen the 225BHP T5 engine in an 2004 S80. Maybe it was a dealership thing, who knows. But I know that they where used up untill at least 2006.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:50 PM

Yup I owned one of these Europian version R-s.
B5204T3 '98 from a V70R AWD --->225HP
16T
white injectors
77 stroke
81 bore
139.5 rods
Cams: don't know, can check later the numbers on them

 

Thanks man, good to know someone here has one. But they won't called R's (not the 2.0T T5 anyway.)


My question is this... Is the 2.0T T5 (B5204T3) based of the solid/robust 2.3 T5 engine?

 

If so, what about the B5204T5 (180bhp)? Is this the same as the 2.3 T5 or is it the newer more delicate engines? If it is the same solid base as the B5204T3 then I will be one happy bunny, as that means it is based of the solid 2.3 T5 which = ROBUST TUNING!!! :)


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:53 PM

ive actaully seen the engine state wide.... there a tech hotline rep for volvo that swapped it into his v70t5 wagon... its really peppy i drove the wagon and a stock t5 and the 2.0 really moves


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:00 PM

I neverheard them called "R".
The 850R models here 250hp, s/v70s are 260hp.

I never heard them called "R".
The 850R models here 250hp, s/v70s are 260hp.

 

The Italian 850 r`s and S/V70 R`s had 2.0 litre engines with HPT. Not only Italian, all countries, what had 2.0


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:17 PM

The Italian 850 r`s and S/V70 R`s had 2.0 litre engines with HPT. Not only Italian, all countries, what had 2.0

 

Oh, ok sorry :)

 

I thought you mean the 2.0 T5. I didn't know some countires labled them R.

 

Well, I need as much infomation I can get on these B5204T3 and B5204T5 engines. If both of them are based of the solid 2.3 T5 and not the updated / facelifted delicate engines then I will truely be happy!
 


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 12:20 AM

OK, the engine is basically the same engine as the 2.3 engine, except for the crank being 77 mm instead of 90 mm stroke.

 

Pistons are the same, rods, valves, springs, block, head, etc.

Cams:

engine        intake cam      exhaust cam   intake lift      exhaust lift

B5204T3   9458202           9458203          7.95 mm       7.95 mm

B5204T4   9458204           9458205          7.40 mm        9.00 mm 

B5234T3   9458202           9458203           7.95 mm       7.95 mm  (S70 HPT engine 236 hp max)

B5234T6   9458202           9458203           7.95 mm       7.95 mm  (1998 V70R 240hp 16T turbo)

B5234T8   9458202           9458203           7.95 mm       7.95 mm  (1999 V70R ME 7 engine, 250 hp 18T, or 261 hp with 19T turbo)

 

What this tells you is that the B5204T3 has the exact same cams as the B5234T3, the HPT 2.3 engine.

 

The B5204T4 engine really gets me, look at the lift differences. Lower intake, but very high exhaust lift!

 

I think B5204T3 is the HPT engine, B5204T4 is the LPT engine.

 

VIDA says:

B5204T (HPT) 310 NM between 2700-5100 rpm; 166 kW (225 hp) at 5700 rpm

 

B5204T (LPT) 240 NM at 2700-5100 rpm; 120 kW (163 hp) at 5700 rpm.

 

Since the cams for both T3 engines are the same, I'd say you found your 225 hp engine in the B5204T3.

Unfortunately, VIDA gives me a part number for the turbos, but doesn't say which model they are: 12T, 13T, etc.

 

Maybe I didn't look hard enough, but I never found the B5234T5 engine listed in VIDA.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:31 AM

is this the same 2.0 engine as the one for the saab.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:22 AM

No,Saab never had 5 cyl engine.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:35 AM

This is the same basic engine Volvo used in the BTCC, first in 850 wagons, and then later in S40 sedans. Of course, it was not turbo, and had compression around 13:1 or something like that, and had lift of nearly 21 or more mm. Head was custom, but still fit BTCC regs. Produced reputed 325 hp, when everyone else was around 285-300 maybe. Nice for non turbo engine.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:50 AM

This is the same basic engine Volvo used in the BTCC, first in 850 wagons, and then later in S40 sedans. Of course, it was not turbo, and had compression around 13:1 or something like that, and had lift of nearly 21 or more mm. Head was custom, but still fit BTCC regs. Produced reputed 325 hp, when everyone else was around 285-300 maybe. Nice for non turbo engine.

 

It's not.  ;)

 

BTCC engine had an even bigger 84mm bore and smaller stroke near 74 mm. Custom rods and crank with smaller 40 mm diameter or so big ends made by Pankl. Pistons were of the skirtless type. 


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 08:03 AM

Oh, ok sorry :)

 

I thought you mean the 2.0 T5. I didn't know some countires labled them R.

 

 

Nope...

2.0 T5 - 210 hp

2.0 R - 225 hp 

 

OK, the engine is basically the same engine as the 2.3 engine, except for the crank being 77 mm instead of 90 mm stroke.

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Since the cams for both T3 engines are the same, I'd say you found your 225 hp engine in the B5204T3.

Unfortunately, VIDA gives me a part number for the turbos, but doesn't say which model they are: 12T, 13T, etc.

 

My 2.0T5 had a 13G

The 2.0R had a 16T (v70R)


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:10 PM

21mm valve lift?Are you sure??



Nope...

2.0 T5 - 210 hp

2.0 R - 225 hp 

 

 

My 2.0T5 had a 13G

The 2.0R had a 16T (v70R)

Hungary....that is why your car was familiar to me...:)


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