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#1 S70 R

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Posted 29 March 2004 - 08:11 PM

killed an Evo on saterday night. on the freeway and see it in the line of racers and pull up along side of it. drop dwon to 3rd and try to get him to go and after a while he does but he got a lil jump on me, so he takes off and im getting to the top of 3rd adn i catch him, then when im door to door with him its time to shift to 4th and after that i pass him with no problem and by the time im like half way though 4th im about 3 car leanths on him biggrin.gif would of love to see his face when he lost to a volvo but i was too far ahead laugh.gif



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Posted 29 March 2004 - 08:57 PM

Must have been stock. wink.gif With a simple AFC you would have seen nothing but red tail lights pulling away from you. Those things run so rich from the factory its disgusting. I drove my buddies to a 13.0 @ 108 mph, with a 1.9 60', with just an afc and a catback. That was cutting the fuel around 16% at 7000 rpms. For under $4G's those little bastards are now running in the 10's. Check out evolutionm.net if you don't believe me yourself.
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Posted 29 March 2004 - 09:27 PM

yea i know you can do alot to make those things even faster but same with our cars too, plus my car is like a high 13's car but i have beaten alot of like high 12's or low 13's cars on the freeway, my car loves to freeway race seeing that it pulls so hard in 3rd and 4th

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Posted 29 March 2004 - 10:41 PM

Yeah, props on the win. I have the same car, so I know how they are on the highway. I'm just saying with minimal mods those cars can run very low numbers.
I saw a dyno of one the other day that was 492 wheel hp on the stock motor.
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Posted 29 March 2004 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE(deafdano @ Mar 29 2004, 02:57 PM)
Must have been stock. wink.gif  With a simple AFC you would have seen nothing but red tail lights pulling away from you.  Those things run so rich from the factory its disgusting.  I drove my buddies to a 13.0 @ 108 mph, with a 1.9 60', with just an afc and a catback.  That was cutting the fuel around 16% at 7000 rpms.  For under $4G's those little bastards are now running in the 10's. Check out evolutionm.net if you don't believe me yourself.

lol @ 108 you can see why I never worry about messing with them from a ROLL on the street wink.gif

Seriously, its safe to say that theres hot anythings out there, but for the most part, I love screwing with the local EVO's out here.

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Posted 29 March 2004 - 11:30 PM

You guys think you can mess with Evos? you must not have seen 2F2F!
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Posted 29 March 2004 - 11:54 PM

QUOTE(S70 R @ Mar 29 2004, 02:27 PM)
yea i know you can do alot to make those things even faster but same with our cars too

No.

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plus my car is like a high 13's car


No.

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but i have beaten alot of like high 12's or low 13's cars on the freeway


No.

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 12:09 AM

laugh.gif You da man HPTJoe!
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Posted 30 March 2004 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE(HPTJoe @ Mar 29 2004, 05:54 PM)
QUOTE(S70 R @ Mar 29 2004, 02:27 PM)
yea i know you can do alot to make those things even faster but same with our cars too

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plus my car is like a high 13's car


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but i have beaten alot of like high 12's or low 13's cars on the freeway


No.

Hahaha...
Evos are pretty quick.... I was astounded when I inched from one in my R in a 30-100 roll. That inspired me to go take a test drive, which led me to conclude that whoever was driving that particular Evo had no idea how to drive. Maybe their clutch was slipping? Quick car. Amazing deal for the price. As much fun to drive as anything else I've ever driven...Pretty spartan on the inside though....
I hate to say it, but the guy might have just had it in 5th. He'd be over 3k rpms at that point, and would therefore be able to spool up to 19psi and haul a little jerk. I do it in my R on the highway all the time. Kind of funny to see what you can out-accelerate in top gear. I've done that to several NA 3000GTs. Iif you pulled 3 car lengths through half of 4th, he DEFINITELY wasn't on it in the right gear. That's a lot to pull over the course of half of a gear. Esp with the gears in our Volvos, which aren't even that tall. 3 car lengths=roughly 60 feet. I'll assume it takes you about 10 seconds to wind through 4th, though that might be a little low, not sure. That means over the course of 5 seconds you'd need to average 12feet per second, or 8 mph faster than the Evo to pull that kind of distance. I'm talking AVERAGE over those first 5 seconds, not absolute at the end of 5 seconds. Going from a non-existant difference in speed at the begining of 4th, to an average of 8mph faster over the course of 5 seconds would require you to be gaining relative speed on him at a very, very high rate. Increasing the rate at which you gain on him by about 4mph per second. In other words, he probably wasn't trying. I don't think an M3 would have been able to pull on him that much at those speeds. No offence, I'm sure your car is quick. But I doubt if the Evo was really trying, or knew how to drive if he was trying.
They're very quick cars though, don't feel bad. Check out this dyno: http://www.buschurracing.com/EVO8_STAGE3_PUMPGAS_LG.jpg
That's with about $3000 invested. Said car runs 12.0@115

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 01:06 AM

Very well said, Chuck.

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 02:08 AM

stupid cars with crazy aftermarket

I hope they burn in hell!!!

I still screw with them all day long in my 242. The stock ones aren't all that fast from a roll, but absolutely brutal from a stop.

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 02:17 AM

QUOTE(dougs242S60 @ Mar 29 2004, 08:08 PM)
stupid cars with crazy aftermarket

I hope they burn in hell!!!

I still screw with them all day long in my 242. The stock ones aren't all that fast from a roll, but absolutely brutal from a stop.

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Why can't my car do that?!?! It has more torque at a lower RPM and is AWD.
Oh yeah, it weights 3850lbs.....ooops. I was pretty impressed by the Evo's acceleration all around. Beats any other car in the pricerange (sub-30k) I've driven. Including the SRT-4. I think it should be able to pull from my car by a reasonable amount. MAYBE not after 120, I hear they kind of die then. But then again so does the R relative to the way it accelerated before....

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 02:43 AM

First off the day I pay 30+g's for a Mitsubishi is the day pigs fly out my @ss. Second, where they hell do they make all that power from a 4cyl? THIRD, I can't wait to see what some of these cars are going to be running like at 100+k after being beat to snot (as I'm sure most of their owners do). FOURTH the evo is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen (of course this being my opinion). FIFTH, sure its fast as balls but lets see what happens when it gets in a little fender bender (referring to the car's general saftey/ impact resilience). I think what all this boils down to is that i don't like mitsubishi's wink.gif
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Posted 30 March 2004 - 02:45 AM

QUOTE(dougs242S60 @ Mar 29 2004, 10:08 PM)
stupid cars with crazy aftermarket

I hope they burn in hell!!!

I still screw with them all day long in my 242. The stock ones aren't all that fast from a roll, but absolutely brutal from a stop.

They are still Lancers and thus complete pieces of useless s-h-i-t in the end.
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Posted 30 March 2004 - 02:55 AM

QUOTE(Mesoam @ Mar 29 2004, 07:43 PM)
First off the day I pay 30+g's for a Mitsubishi is the day pigs fly out my @ss. Second, where they hell do they make all that power from a 4cyl? THIRD, I can't wait to see what some of these cars are going to be running like at 100+k after being beat to snot (as I'm sure most of their owners do). FOURTH the evo is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen (of course this being my opinion). FIFTH, sure its fast as balls but lets see what happens when it gets in a little fender bender (referring to the car's general saftey/ impact resilience). I think what all this boils down to is that i don't like mitsubishi's  wink.gif

Now the normal Joe would smack someone around and make them cry with such a post, but this one is so bad that I honestly don't feel it's worth my time.

To conclude your enthralling dialogue, you forgot "SIXTH: My uncorroborated and thoughtless ideas have accomplished nothing else but successfully establishing myself as a douche bag."

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 02:58 AM

QUOTE(HPTJoe @ Mar 29 2004, 09:55 PM)
"SIXTH: My uncorroborated and thoughtless ideas have accomplished nothing else but successfully establishing myself as a douche bag."

Is that how u spell douche bag? I've been wondering about that one for awhile.

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 03:23 AM

QUOTE(HPTJOE @ Mar 29 2004 @ 09:55 PM)
Flame


Jee, that almost looks like a Flame there, Joe. What was wrong with what he said? Maybe I wasn't reading into it like you were, and maybe part of it didn't seem to make sense, but what was the point of your post bashing? If you are going to bash a post I would say it's a flame and I don't see anything useful in your reply, Joe. There is being an asshole, and then there is flaming. The latter is not cool or funny.

Here's the useful part of my post: Yes, that is how you spell douche bag.

Quite frankly, I think he is right. All an Evo is is a really nice piece of stuff.

Edited by Legend854T5R, 30 March 2004 - 03:30 AM.

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 03:32 AM

wow... ignorance is bliss

you do realize EVERYONE has to meet certian saftey standards to sell cars here right?

so please... pull your heads out of your jerk.

An EVO or STI would wipe the floor with almost any volvo here, stock or not.

Joe, if I could make you a mod I would wink.gif

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 03:40 AM

Okay, answer this - is a Lancer a nice car? STi, yeah it looks ricer but a Subaru Impreza is a decent vehicle to start with. But lancers are pieces of stuff, and the Evo is the really nice version. So what do you get? A really nice piece of stuff.

Just cuz it's fast doesn't mean jack. The car has no class.

And I test drove and considered buying an Evo VIII and quite frankly it felt like a piece of stuff. The SRT4 was a bit nicer, even. If someone gave me one, sure I'd take it. But no way in HELL I would spend anywhere NEAR $30,000 for a nice piece of stuff.

And safety is in no way involved in my decision. The Evo is actually pretty safe anyway when it comes to accident avoidance ability so it all evens out. And actually it's got 4 stars all around except front seat side impact, so when it comes to that you are right, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Besides, you'd throw a roll cage in, wouldn't you?

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 04:00 AM

Man i havent been here in awhile, maybe cuz ive been playing with this!!!

Click here to see my new car of choice!

Whats going on in my simple mind?

1) Joe = The man
2) EVOs are sick kid cars and will smoke any of you!
3) They may not have the best interior but they are designed for going fast on a diet.
4) Why ohh why do volvo guys think that they are soo fast? This forum is almost like the Honda forums, "Ya i smoked a z06!!!". Comon ricers, get real cars and give mama her volvo back, just like a i did!!

and ya Joe you are the man, i must agree with all teh No's you post!!!




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