2016 Presidential Campaign


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3 hours ago, ErikS said:

You know I was just using a Trump tactic.  Its seems to have gotten under your skin so I will stop.  There is nothing "weak" about anything I've said in my answers or arguments - Is emptiness a sign of strength in your book?  

There are quite a few "elite" countries with highly socialized systems.  GB for one, Norway, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland ... they are largely culturally monistic, which helps.

I setup a 529 for my son when he was six months old, he'll have a couple hundred grand when he is 18 ;)

I did register to vote when I had to renew my driver's license.  I will probably vote for Gary Johnson as he likes limited government, but is more socially liberal.  I don't agree with everything he wants to do, but certainly more than the other two options - also he's a badass.

So, why are you voting for Trump?  What will he do to make America great again? Do we get more empty, hollow, one liners from you, or are your going to show how strong you are by explaining? 

You are empty?  Fill yourself up.  Trump would approve.  ;) 

 

You honestly think that GB, Norway, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland are superior countries to the US?  Now you are just being argumentatively ignorant.

So you wont have a problem with taking half of the 100k (eww whew look at Erik) you saved for your child and giving it to some other blood sucker socialist that "needs" it?  Oh but that's different huh Erik.

I am voting for Trump because the Liberals had there chance and put a pussy like Obama in office and you see where that got us.  Socialism, while a great model isn't what the US was built on and it wont work here plain and simple.  There is a reason people come to the US for medical attention, for schooling and to better themselves.  It damn sure isn't socialism.   

Glad to see you can take your fixation off my balls for a few minutes and ask some questions that matter. 

Legit question.  Why would you vote for Johnson?  He doesn't appear (unless I missed it) to have any socialist views that you seem to admire.  Again not bashing just curious.  I kinda liked what I read about him (did I say that out loud?)

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1 hour ago, Yellow95 said:

You honestly think that GB, Norway, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland are superior countries to the US?  Now you are just being argumentatively ignorant.

So you wont have a problem with taking half of the 100k (eww whew look at Erik) you saved for your child and giving it to some other blood sucker socialist that "needs" it?  Oh but that's different huh Erik.

I am voting for Trump because the Liberals had there chance and put a pussy like Obama in office and you see where that got us.  Socialism, while a great model isn't what the US was built on and it wont work here plain and simple.  There is a reason people come to the US for medical attention, for schooling and to better themselves.  It damn sure isn't socialism.   

Glad to see you can take your fixation off my balls for a few minutes and ask some questions that matter. 

Legit question.  Why would you vote for Johnson?  He doesn't appear (unless I missed it) to have any socialist views that you seem to admire.  Again not bashing just curious.  I kinda liked what I read about him (did I say that out loud?)

Again, you need to operationalize "superior"  what does that mean, you've changed it from "elite"?  Yes, those countries provide better public education, better health care, and a higher quality of life for the vast majority of its citizens than the United States does.  I'm not sure why I'm now a "socialist", or why you think the socialist boogey man is going to come into your house and take away ... what?  You know those taxes you have no choice to pay from your income, property, and items you buy? Those fund social programs.

I already pay for other children's education.  Texas has one of the highest property tax rates in the nation, and my zip code is one of the highest in the state.

"Obama is a liberal pussy"  That is why you are voting for Trump? Yes, lets see where his administration got us in the last eight years.

  • The U.S. trade deficit has shrunk by 24 percent; exports have grown faster than imports.
  • The number of immigrants in the U.S. illegally has gone down — by 3.4 percent according to one independent estimate and by 9 percent according to another.
  • The economy has added 9.7 million jobs.
  • The unemployment rate has dropped below the historical norm.
  • The buying power of the average worker’s weekly paycheck is up 4.2 percent.
  • Corporate profits are running 144 percent higher and stock prices have soared.
  • Federal debt has more than doubled, and annual deficits, after shrinking, are again on the rise.
  • The number of people lacking health insurance has gone down by nearly 15 million.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/obamas-numbers-april-2016-update/

I told you why I would vote for Johnson, did you watch his CNN town hall?  I have never said I was a socialist, still not understanding why you think that.

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2 hours ago, Kevin. said:

you're automatically a socialist if you're trying to help everyone I guess

Those that truly need help, yes.  Free passes and rides? No.

What is interesting is the data is the data, but if you look at Trumps points and why America is not great - it goes against every data point we have. All his talking points are complete utter bullshit.

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14 hours ago, ErikS said:

Those that truly need help, yes.  Free passes and rides? No.

What is interesting is the data is the data, but if you look at Trumps points and why America is not great - it goes against every data point we have. All his talking points are complete utter bullshit.

See you have to end every valid point with a bullshit statement that blows it up.  So everything that every other candidate says is totally valid and everything that Trump says is a lie or false.  You are that same guy that says Trump breeds hate and then attacks his supporters at a rally.  You just cant really stomach that Trump may very well be the next president, and that's ok.  But a an educated dude like yourself should be able to see that his shortcomings are no worse than any other candidate out there.

17 hours ago, ErikS said:

"Obama is a liberal pussy"  That is why you are voting for Trump? Yes, lets see where his administration got us in the last eight years.

  • The number of people lacking health insurance has gone down by nearly 15 million.

 

You really think this is a good thing?  He totally destroyed insurance as we know it.  What used to cost me $214 a month for family insurance in 2005 now costs me $317 a WEEK, and  don't pull out the "that's inflation" bullshit.  That's Obamacare is what that is.  It didn't go down because he paid for it.  We paid for it.

18 hours ago, ErikS said:
  • Corporate profits are running 144 percent higher and stock prices have soared.
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Oh, damn.  The Corporation that I work for has made a profit every year they have been in business (50 years this year) but Obama is responsible for the profits the last 8 years?  Damn!  Does that mean I owe HIM the bonus checks I have been getting?  Wait, he does get my bonus check.  TO pay for Obamacare.  You know.  All those that before had no insurance.  Those guys.

18 hours ago, ErikS said:
  • Federal debt has more than doubled, and annual deficits, after shrinking, are again on the rise.
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Valid point here.  No argument.

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In other news, Bernie announces that he will vote for Hillary in November because he's got to do what he can to defeat Trump.

Nothing says "I'm for the people" and "Fuck Wall Street and the 1%" like staying you're going to vote for someone owned by Wall Street and worth millions. 

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4 hours ago, Yellow95 said:

So everything that every other candidate says is totally valid and everything that Trump says is a lie or false.

No one said that every other candidate was truthful. All that was said was that Trump's points are bullshit.

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50 minutes ago, Fudge_Brownie said:

No one said that every other candidate was truthful. All that was said was that Trump's points are bullshit.

And you are entitled to your opinion.  I whole heartedly disagree.  Trump Train woooooot woooot.  Brexit and now Trump.  There is a storm comin folks.  Better hold on. 

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Going back a little to the opiates situation and medical marijuana, there are a lot of unknowns with opiates. My wife has Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, a connective tissue disorder which causes intractable pain. Wikipedia defines intractable pain as "a severe, constant pain that is not curable by any known means and which causes a bed or house-bound state and early death if not adequately treated, usually with opioids and/or interventional procedures." She was on very high doses of several opiates and was having myoclonic seizures (random convulsions of the limbs and sometimes an arched back) for which no cause could be found. For a normal person, these kinds of seizures would be no big deal. For someone with her condition, they cause her increased pain. We thought it was the drugs, but the doctors said "seizures are not a side effect of ____." When we took her off the drugs for other reasons, the seizures stopped and they have not returned. She also went from 178 to 146 lbs in the 9 months that have passed since she was on such high doses, all weight which she gained while she was on those medications. I believe she also developed a rare condition in which opiates actually cause hypersensitivity to pain, known as opiate-induced hyperalgesia. When she came off the meds, her pain did in fact decrease until she experienced new injuries as a result of the connective-tissue nature of her condition. Now she is back on opiates, but in lower doses. She has regular "interventions" such as nerve ablations and other anesthesic treatments which don't help - in fact anesthesia in general causes increased and debilitating pain for days following because of how it relaxes the soft tissues. 

And in general, these medications are also simply not "safe." The risk is low, but if a metabolic anomaly occurs (if you get food poisoning, for example, and you end of vomiting and the acid and enzyme concentration in the stomach is altered resulting in unusual metabolising of your medications and possible loss of the medication during vomiting), they can cause sudden death even in long term users with no side effects as a suddenly much higher dose is rapidly metabolized. Furthermore, you just puked out your guts. Guess what - you lost that dose and its not safe to take another. If it's an immediate release, you're probably going to hurt even worse as you go through that stomach illness, and that's on top of the pain from retching. 

Medical Marijuana, if it worked, would be a godsend. Many people with her condition report that it helps. Insurance not covering it is a major problem, and that will be the case until it is fully and properly legalized and approved for treatment of pain like hers. It would cost us over $500 just to get her a MMJ card, hundreds of dollars every month for doctors appointments to get prescriptions and maintain the card, plus the cost of MMJ is considerably higher than the street cost of MJ. Non-medical is not the same, however - different strains have different properties. Like opiates, those that are best for recreational use are not the best for treating pain. Even among MMJ, there are many strains that work differently for different people with different conditions to provide varying degrees of relief for each individual. 

But MMJ is not the only war on drugs concern. There have been times when it took me upwards of 6 hours to find a pharmacy that could provide her prescription. Pharmacies have turned us away from fear of DEA enforcement. When we had to take her off cold turkey and she had to go through withdrawal, it was because she couldn't just go see another pain doctor for a little while - jumping between pain doctors can also trigger DEA enforcement and get you on a list which will make it impossible to be prescribed opiates again. 

But it doesn't end there. This fear of addiction is unreasonable. Some people are prone to addiction - others can safely use opiates for years without ever becoming even slightly addicted. People confuse addiction with physical dependence. People don't want to take opiates out of fear put in them by the FDA and DEA which is unreasonable when you take into account the pain they are in. Some doctors overprescribe, and that's a problem. Others won't prescribe as they should because of fear or misunderstanding. Families want and convince their loved ones not to take medications they NEED out of fear and misunderstanding. Some people need to carefully organize their pills in a Mon-Fri style pill box to avoid accidentally overdosing, but if they leave their prescription bottles at home they could be handcuffed and imprisoned, in their disabled and pain-ridden state, due to ridiculous law enforcement policies and the laws themselves. And it's all a product of the war on drugs.  

TL;DR The war on drugs is a major problem for people with chronic pain, and it affects them in ways most people don't even realize. 

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On 6/24/2016 at 4:04 PM, ErikS said:

Did the neurologist talk to her about Gabapentin? That is what I take now if one of my discs slips, it helps a lot, is non-narcotic and also non-addictive.

 

my wife was taking that for a bit, it caused her to gain weight pretty fast so the prescription was changed in a few months

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