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Do88 Drop In Intercooler And Rip Kit Review

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I have had a DIY FMIC for a while now and I have never liked the poor throttle response. Not to mention it always felt a bit like a hack job since I am not very good at fabrication / welding.

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I saw the do88 intercooler on sale and jumped on it as it seemed better then the ebay ones at not too much of a price difference. They offered me a discount on the rip kit as well and since I was planning on going that route anyways I accepted.

Ordered wednesday night and recieved it friday morning.

*** UPS charged me $20ish dollars when they delivered, something to do with customs fee's I think. (I wasn't awake yet) They will only take a check! No cards! ***

Boxes looked unscathed

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RIP kit contents

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Hoses seem very sturdy

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Intercooler

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vs stock

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helper

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I couldn't install it without dropping the rad.

Bolt holes lined up.

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I recommend an extra set of hands when installing. It is very heavy and awkward to reinstall, even when using a jack.

RIP kit sits close to engine but doesnt quite touch. I could pull the OTE pipe out of the coupler a bit if i wanted more space between it and the engine.

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Fresh air tube wont fit unless you trim the TB hose a bit, I opted not to since I could always go back and do it later if i wanted.

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UPDATE* Found the bolts for mounting condenser they were in the package. They are included!

Vacuum is the same as with the FMIC

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(Yes I know my cars a mess)

I will update tomorrow with driving impressions after i get some longer bolts for the condenser.

Sorry for the phone pics its all i have at the moment.

If theres anything I forgot to mention just ask!

Update!

Found the bolts in the intercooler box after the trip to lowes

Definitely a much improved throttle response, I believe this is the way to go if you have the smaller td04 turbo's.

Vacuum at idle has actually improved to 20 hg not sure if that had anything to do with the ecu adapting or not.

If you were ever thinking about a drop in intercooler you should definitely jump on it at this price!

Edit: Forgot to mention they have the option to pick either normal TB hose or 3" hose. I will update after a couple of weeks to see if my mileage has changed or any issues have arose.

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Yes I am very happy with my purchase! I got intercooler and RIP kit for less then other comparable drop in intercooler's!

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Mind sharing how much you paid? Either publicly or PM. I'm curious, and debating between this or FMIC.

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Post the price up. I dont see anything wrong with that.

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Mind sharing how much you paid? Either publicly or PM. I'm curious, and debating between this or FMIC.

Post the price up. I dont see anything wrong with that.

http://www.do88.se/cgi-bin/ibutik/AIR_ibutik.fcgi?funk=inst_moms&Moms=0&funk2=visa_artikel&artnr=BIG-850&Friendly_Grupp=bigpack&Friendly=bigpack-volvo-850-x70-turbo-1994-98&artgrp=252&Sprak=en Their normal kit price for that intercooler + rip kit is like 500 Euro excluding VAT. They just posted that special intercooler price here though for cheap, so likely a bit less than that in this case? Just speculating.

That kit looks nice! The DO88 guys are great too. I have personally ordered stuff from them and been more than happy. Nice products, fair prices, great communication and customer service.

PS - vacuum your footwells!

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i just wanted to add some things to this.

when you install the intercooler to the radiator. double check to see if it is touching together. when i got it all install i take a look and mine was too close and was touching together at the core. might want to add some washer in between them. i was to lazy to go back and fix it. i'm pretty sure it will have some kind of heat transfer from the radiator. i should call mine interheater. a/c condenser was fine. there was a gap all the way.

the other thing to watch out is when you install the longer bolts that they supply for the a/c condenser. the end of the bolt get really close to the plastic radiator tanks. so don't over tighten it or used a extra washer like i did to be safe.

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How can you convert the Price to US$

....

Copy and paste into google and write "to USD"

Plus two posts above yours says what he paid...

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Hi,

I am really interested in this drop in intercooler. Do you have any numbers in terms of IAT drop?

Thanks.

Hi Valeyard

See diagrams below from our comparsion tests:

WOT Acceleration 32-155 mph. 2-4th gear Volvo 850 T5 28psi boost

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Acceleration 4800-6000 RPM. 4th gear Volvo 850 T5 28psi boost

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The temperature is meassured right after the intercooler outlet. On our test car we have pressure / temperature sensors both before and after the intercooler. So we can meassure its performance, both pressure and temperature drop.

Regards

Fredrik, do88.se

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28 psi boost :huh: More about the test car's setup, please.

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Thanks! I assume the core used by 850 intercooler is similar to the one used by p2 intercooler?

The 850 intercooler is very different from the P2 intercooler. We will in about 3 months launch our new intercooler for P2 models.

Regards Fredrik

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    • By mattwebb502
      EDIT: I've had few people already ask me if the ARD tune I was previously running bent my rod: I'd like to nip this in the bud RIGHT NOW and say that NO, the ARD tune was NOT present at the time of the rod bending incident. The ARD Green that I had in place before upgrading turbo, etc, etc was nothing but a grin inducing tune with zero issues for well over a year of running time. I don't know exactly what caused the rod bending incident, and I don't care to speculate at this time --- but I can accurately state that it had absolutely nothing to do with ARD. Some of you are aware I recently bent a rod. The following is a review of the do88 intercooler and rip kit (p80 drop in) I had written up beforehand, with the intention of posting here but I never got around to it. I planned to follow up with my impressions when running the 19t ... On that note, I went through tuning with it installed and in the end had a handful of pulls at about 21psi with it installed -- I can say that it certainly was a very FUN car to drive, and I believe the intercooler upgrade to definitely be a good part of that equation. Without any hard data to publish, you can see in the pics included here that the stock intercooler clearly pales in comparison. It's a very solidly crafted and well thought out kit that provides a very tidy install in the engine bay. Also, it has proven to be very service friendly, as I have had various pieces on and off multiple times for various reasons... anyways, here's what I never got around to posting: I recently upgraded to the do88.se intercooler and rip kit ("big kit" as they call it) for my '96 855R / auto trans. I'm running an ARD green tune on stock 15g and no other mods. I do have plans to upgrade my turbo/etc in the near future, so I got a head start with this drop in intercooler and plumbing. I normally would shy away from this type of mod with a configuration like mine that is so close to stock, but after completion I will say that I was quite impressed with the results of a few 2nd-3rd gear test runs. The car pulls noticeably better in the mid-high revs. Throttle response is perhaps slightly improved. I noticed no change in engine or intake noise levels (a bonus in my book). I can't wait for the summer, where the stock intercooler falls short in my climate (Louisville, KY) There is no doubt in my mind that this is a far superior intercooler and plumbing setup over stock, and I feel confident that it will be more than up to the task of my relatively simple 19t turbo upgrade. I, for one, am more than happy with this purchase -- it wasn't the cheapest date, but you get what you pay for. I really cannot find anything bad to say about it... The do88 people were EXCELLENT to deal with as well. The pipes are thick wall aluminum and really a work of perfect fitting art. I'm not kidding -- I generally consider myself quite critical of aftermarket parts, and this setup wins all around. The intercooler is a thick 2" core of bar and plate construction, with thick aluminum end tanks. All pipe unions are bead rolled. The hoses seem to be high quality, with 4 ply fabric of some sort in there. The clamps are your typical worm gear design, but they took quite well to torquing down with no signs of stripping (I use an 18v DeWalt impact. I'm careful with it, mind you, but the clamps really took more than I was expecting) I weighed the stock and do88 intercoolers (with me holding them on a digital bathroom scale, so keep that in mind): - stock: appx 7.0lbs / 3.2kgs - do88 : appx 19.8lbs / 9.0 kgs Below is writeup on the install process along with several comparison and install pics. I hope this proves helpful to some of you considering the upgrade. To install, I gave in and removed the radiator. I tried to do it without, but it just wasn't working out. I had visions of rows of bent fins on my radiator, intercooler, and condensor. Step 1: remove all stock intercooler plumbing and piping. Get it out of the way. Step 2: drain your coolant into a shallow bucket. Run through a strainer funnel into some spare coolant jugs. Cap off and set aside. Step 3: using snap ring pliers or similar, remove the oil cooler retainers. Move the lines so that they stay up high in a vertical position so that the system won't continue to drain down. Do the same for the trans cooler side. Step 4: remove the 4 bolts that secure the condensor to the radiator. Remove the fan and shroud by removing two upper torx head screws. Remove the two bolts that mount the radiator to the frame (accessed from below). Remove the radiator and intercooler assembly. Step 5: Seperate the stock intercooler, bolt on the replacement. Note that the intercooler end tanks may rest against the radiator and promote heat soak. You can shim with a washer to provide an air gap. It might be splitting hairs at that point, but for 60 seconds of effort it makes me feel better. NOTE that you will have to shim the condensor bolts in the same locations, or you can possibly crack the radiator mount points on condensor torque up.. self explanatory when it's in front of you. Step 6: reintsall and use new do88 supplied bolts to mount the condensor to the radiator ---- To save on weight and to make life easier, I loosely bolted my intercooler & radiator to the car first, but this made bringing the condensor back up into position difficult -- it wanted to wedge between the frame and the intercooler. Doable, but leave those radiator mount bolts loose. Hook up your oil and trans lines, make sure the retainers are properly seated / snapped in, and wrap each with a zip tie. Reinstall fan and shroud. Step 7: loose fit the lower hose and lower pipe. Don't forget to put your clamps on first... On mine, the lower hose needed to be bottomed out on the intercooler neck and it could basically only point one way, which followed the fan shroud IIRC. It's a little difficult to fit, but not too bad. Now fit the throttle body hose. Note that the IAC outlet is not very long, so the clamp needs to sit fairly high up --- in the pics you can see where my IAC clamp was installed and that was TOO LOW. That hose blew off after a couple of hard pulls. When I reinstalled I again managed to put the clamp on too low. It has to go up pretty high. No big deal, just be aware. Step 8: Upper intercooler coupler -- Install this hose so that there is enough material to get a good clamp around the upper intercooler inlet, but don't overdo it -- having the extra hose pointing out towards the motor is helpful when installing the upper pipe for optimal cam cover clearance. Install the turbo coupler, install and adjust the upper pipe. Step 9: refill with coolant, double check all hose clamps and unions, and go drive! side by side core width side by side comparison core internal comparisons: pipe comparison: d088 hoses: spacer washers: overhead install view: lower hose and pipe detail: throttle body hose: cam cover clearance detail: installed over engine plumbing: