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[mbsl98]

Can anyone fill me in on the evolution of the 5 speed auto's used in V70 (XC in particular, but should be the same) from introduction in 1999 through current? I have the impression that the early ones were Asin Warner products, while the latest (Geartronic) is a GM product, and that the transmission fluid requirements are different between them as well. Any insights, or thoughs about one vs the other (assuming that there are more than one)?
Thanks

[leurven]

I don't think the XC in 99 and 2000 had a 5sp. The Rs certainly did and I believe the non-Rs too. Rodrigo doesn't have one in his 2000 XC SE. Not sure of the brand to be honest.

I think the 5sp came out in 2000. Not before.

[Seamus]

They are all Aisin Warner. The only CAR that used the GM crap was the 6cyl S-80s.. The 98 cars are like and 850 they use Dexron III the, 99 and up (4 or five speed) use the newer fluid..

[MadeInJapan]

They are all Aisin Warner. The only CAR that used the GM crap was the 6cyl S-80s.. The 98 cars are like and 850 they use Dexron III the, 99 and up (4 or five speed) use the newer fluid..

Not sure of that...although the Mobil-3309 ATF apparently won't hurt a 4 speed, it is specifically designed for 5 speed A-W trannies according to their spec sheet. http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS...il_ATF_3309.asp

[mbsl98]

Aisin Warner sounds good to me. Are there both Geartronic and normal shifting Aisin Warner 5 speeds? My new owners manual (2007) shows pics of a standard full range auto shifter (PRND4342 I think) and separately shows the Geartronic (PRND only, with + - shifting to left), and notes "Option" on the Geartronic description, although it is the standard transmission in all '07 XC70's at least in the US, as far as I know.

[FredMc]

They are all Aisin Warner. The only CAR that used the GM crap was the 6cyl S-80s.. The 98 cars are like and 850 they use Dexron III the, 99 and up (4 or five speed) use the newer fluid..

A moderator shouldn't be wrong.
You are
4 speed trans are Dextron III. Only 5 speed autos made by Aisin Warner use JWS 3309 spec oil and that is Mobil 3309. Period.

[dmelviØØ7]

A moderator shouldn't be wrong.
You are
4 speed trans are Dextron III. Only 5 speed autos made by Aisin Warner use JWS 3309 spec oil and that is Mobil 3309. Period.

Wow you have some stones calling out a guy who has been a tech for 15-20 years. I don't know about anyone else but I am not appriciating your attitude or your misuse of the word "your" in other threads.

[FredMc]

Wow you have some stones calling out a guy who has been a tech for 15-20 years. I don't know about anyone else but I am not appriciating your attitude or your misuse of the word "your" in other threads.

Maybe you should take an English lesson,

Read what I wrote.

I said a Moderator shouldn't be giving out wrong info.

and then I said "you are"

As in "you are" wrong
Did you want me to say "your" wrong.
And he is wrong totally about what trans fluids to use.

Most "techs" on the subject of trans fluids are wrong. They only know what they overheard. I deal in facts and owners manuals and knowledge of fluids and transmission requirements. Prove me wrong. no one has and I am not alone. Get "your" facts straight (or should I say "you're" facts straight as in how you think it should be written).
Don't fight a battle when you are defenseless... and unarmed...

And as far as "your" english , why don't you start by learning how to spell "appreciating".

Why don't you check and see what 4 speed trans that Volvo had from 99 to 01 in the S80. If you do have the ability to check you would see that it was a 4 speed Cadillac GM trans that required and still does, Dextron III. All S80's and S60's and S40's from 02 on are Aisin Warner trans and require ONLY JWS 3309 oil specification type oils and that is Mobil 3309 or the rebadged Mobil 3309 Volvo fluid (I suppose the Tech calls that synthetic also which is totally wrong).

Edited by FredMc, 20 September 2006 - 03:18 AM.

[dmelviØØ7]

Sorry, I didn't mean to activate your "I am never wrong" complex.

[FredMc]

Sorry, I didn't mean to activate your "I am never wrong" complex.

You can start by admitting you know squat about what fluids go in transmissions. See your statement below. Totally inaccurate.


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Seeing as I work at a dealership all I use is the Volvo stuff but I can tell you that it is synthetic. Hope that helps.

Edited by FredMc, 20 September 2006 - 03:26 AM.

[Volvoson]

Seeing as I work at a dealership all I use is the Volvo stuff but I can tell you that it is synthetic. Hope that helps.

Join the club... The 2 people you are arguing with both work for Volvo or have in the past. Settle down, no need to get angry because two people have differeing opinions/statements.

[Gioseppe]

Seeing as I work at a dealership all I use is the Volvo stuff but I can tell you that it is synthetic. Hope that helps.

you know what? seamus IS a dealer tech, danny aswell. i work at an indie and you are just being an asshole. Oh hush before you blow your own headgasket.

[dmelviØØ7]

You can start by admitting you know squat about what fluids go in transmissions. See your statement below. Totally inaccurate.
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Seeing as I work at a dealership all I use is the Volvo stuff but I can tell you that it is synthetic. Hope that helps.

Oops a mistake. Something you would obviously know nothing about. I hope my sister can find a Mr. Perfect like yourself.

[FredMc]

Join the club... The 2 people you are arguing with both work for Volvo or have in the past. Settle down, no need to get angry because two people have differeing opinions/statements.

UHHH that was from DMelv a so called "tech" or a dealer employee probably in the service dept.

It's no argument. It's not a debate.

My view is totally supported on two other Volvo forums. This one doesn't quite get it. Misleading info on the correct fluids for the trans can toast one. Moderators should know their stuff before quoting it as gospel.

[Volvoson]

UHHH that was from DMelv a so called "tech" or a dealer employee probably in the service dept.

It's no argument. It's not a debate.

My view is totally supported on two other Volvo forums. This one doesn't quite get it. Misleading info on the correct fluids for the trans can toast one. Moderators should know their stuff before quoting it as gospel.

Ok, I gave you a peaceful warning about toning your attitude down, but you haven't... Take the night off, we will see you tomorrow if you want to come and correct us some more. Hell, with the way you're talking, maybe you will run the entire site tomorrow.

[dmelviØØ7]

UHHH that was from DMelv a so called "tech" or a dealer employee probably in the service dept.

It's no argument. It's not a debate.

My view is totally supported on two other Volvo forums. This one doesn't quite get it. Misleading info on the correct fluids for the trans can toast one. Moderators should know their stuff before quoting it as gospel.

Yeah I just wash the cars.

[Gioseppe]

Yeah I just wash the cars.

dude OMG i do toooo!!!!!!!!



i love snobby people.

[dmelviØØ7]

dude OMG i do toooo!!!!!!!!



i love snobby people.

See ya tomorrow pal!!!

LOLLERCOASTER!!

[FredMc]

Ok, I gave you a peaceful warning about toning your attitude down, but you haven't... Take the night off, we will see you tomorrow if you want to come and correct us some more. Hell, with the way you're talking, maybe you will run the entire site tomorrow.

It's not about correcting, don't be so narssistic. Everytime you are wrong and giving improper advice and someone corrects the wrong. They get suspended.? I hope you suspended the fella who said the unholy word "Azzhole...". I never swore, just defending a position. And you guys got caught without a response. If you are wrong admit it and sticky the proper response so others don't use the wrong fluids.

I don't want to run the site, but don't run it with wrong information for others not so well informed to actually take heed on it. If you guys are truly tech's then read an owners manual on trans fluid requirements. And stop saying the volvo fluid is "synthetic" when it's not. You have not one shread of evidence other than water cooler talk on that. And it's wrong... Mobil 3309 and JWS 3309 oil spec is NOT synthetic. 4 speed autos do NOT use the Mobil 3309. Only Dextron III. Look it up and if you can prove it post it...

[maiku]

duhr

carson banned you because of your attitude towards others in this thread
not because of your difference in opinion

if you said

"oh jee, if was my thought that blah blah used this blah fluid, can anyone confirm this?", you wouldn't be on the VS black list

leave your superiority complex at the login page

Edited by anitanium, 20 September 2006 - 08:35 PM.