Is there any way to convince a dealer to replace the ETM instead of just doing the software update if it's one with the white sticker?
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Etm - Have Dealer Replace, Not Just Software?
Started by jb7073, Oct 03 2006 01:38 PM
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 01:38 PM
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 01:43 PM
I had mine replaced before the recall, maybe that is why mine got replaced.
Just tell them to do it.
Just tell them to do it.
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 01:46 PM
no, there isnt.
they dont have to replace anything...
they dont have to replace anything...
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 02:09 PM
They are only supposed to replace it if the software cannot get rid of all of the codes. If you feel like living on the edge you could snip a wire!!
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 02:58 PM
yeah, but then they could screw you over pretty good if they found it...and make you pay for it due to damage being done to the ETM.
i got it...take the ETM off and soak it in the sink, then put it back on...that would work great!
i got it...take the ETM off and soak it in the sink, then put it back on...that would work great!
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 03:29 PM
lol!
I was afraid it wouldn't be easy. Guess I'll just try the software for now, and see if I get more desparate later. grr...
I was afraid it wouldn't be easy. Guess I'll just try the software for now, and see if I get more desparate later. grr...
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 02:50 AM
QUOTE(jb7073 @ Oct 3 2006, 08:29 AM) 
lol!
I was afraid it wouldn't be easy. Guess I'll just try the software for now, and see if I get more desparate later. grr...
I was afraid it wouldn't be easy. Guess I'll just try the software for now, and see if I get more desparate later. grr...
I've only seen the software not work a couple of times, it's covered up to 200k anyways.
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 04:30 PM
does anybody know, cause IPD/TME sure isn't talking, if the ETM patch overwrites the IPD ECU upgrade?
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 05:07 PM
it might, my dad had to get his ecu redone by upsolute after the etm software update.
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 06:48 PM
Unplug it withn the car running to set some ETM codes , then complain to the dealer. They will replace it free. If they dont then repeat above till it's replaced
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:12 AM
QUOTE(1clean01 @ Oct 4 2006, 01:07 PM)
it might, my dad had to get his ecu redone by upsolute after the etm software update.
so, did his ETM problem come back after upsolute redid it?
i'm inclined just to clean the ETM or replace it. a SW patch for a HW problem is usually just ignoring errors (in some industries)
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:26 AM
QUOTE(1clean01 @ Oct 4 2006, 10:07 AM)
it might, my dad had to get his ecu redone by upsolute after the etm software update.
I am pretty sure that IPD reprograms the ECM whereas ETM software is stored in the ETM itself. They are 2 completely different modules with different software. It shouldn't make a difference but don't quote me, I don't want to be responsible if something gets fucked up.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:49 AM
QUOTE(dmelviØØ7 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:26 PM)
I am pretty sure that IPD reprograms the ECM whereas ETM software is stored in the ETM itself. They are 2 completely different modules with different software. It shouldn't make a difference but don't quote me, I don't want to be responsible if something gets fucked up.
sooooo basically you don't know shit?
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 02:24 AM
yeah, that 155 upgrade reprograms your ETM and ECM.
dmelvi- how long have you been working at the dealeR?
dmelvi- how long have you been working at the dealeR?
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 03:22 AM
QUOTE(Jim Slayer @ Oct 4 2006, 01:48 PM)
Unplug it withn the car running to set some ETM codes , then complain to the dealer. They will replace it free. If they dont then repeat above till it's replaced
actually, maybe not a bad idea. I"ll have to keep that one in mind
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 06:22 AM
QUOTE(the underlørd @ Oct 4 2006, 06:49 PM)
sooooo basically you don't know shit?
I know how to replace a heater core on a 98 V70. I suck at fog lights and gauges though
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 06:24 AM
QUOTE(garbergtsi @ Oct 4 2006, 07:24 PM)
yeah, that 155 upgrade reprograms your ETM and ECM.
dmelvi- how long have you been working at the dealeR?
dmelvi- how long have you been working at the dealeR?
Long enough, how long have you been a know-it-all?
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 04:30 PM
Just curious do they do the SW upgrade for ETMs w/ the yellow label also? I don't have any CEL or anything but I keep reading that it improves performance and I'm putting my car in the dealer's next week for some recalls anyway.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 04:34 PM
QUOTE(dmelviØØ7 @ Oct 5 2006, 02:24 AM)
Long enough, how long have you been a know-it-all?
...or a dealer spy...
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 07:00 PM
QUOTE(dmelviØØ7 @ Oct 5 2006, 06:24 AM)
Long enough, how long have you been a know-it-all?
Acually, I know very little.
i dont even work for volvo, or a dealer
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