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I fitted the saddle before picking it up.  Have every intention of working with my local bike shop for a fitting as I buy a fair amount from them.

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Adding to the above... I personally really like steel bikes. Modern steel tubing used in modern steel bikes is good. For good production steel, I'd tell you to get an All-City. Ritchey would be a good option too, but those are more expensive. I'll echo above too and tell you to go with bigger tires. 25 is good, but 28 is even cushier. I really like 28 because it's noticeably smoother but not tooooo big so it looks weird or anything.

Do you have any inclination to build your own bike up? If so, you could build a pretty killer bike for $1500 budget. You could pick up an All-City Mr. Pink frameset for like $800 full retail, but I'd bet you could find it a bit cheaper than that. Because of Brexit you can get Shimano groupsets even cheaper from the UK dealers. Ribble has 11 speed 105 groupsets for $327: http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/shimano-105-5800-black-11-speed-double-groupset/

Velomine is crazy cheap for wheelsets too. This would match the kit above perfectly: http://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=235_357&products_id=2111

Add a saddle/seatpost/stem/bars/tires and you've got a really nice modern steel road bike within your $1500 budget.

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But Cameron, why steel?  And when I look at All-City's listing for Mr Pink as well as any of their other bikes they don't list weight.  Which seems to me like they're trying to hide the fact that this is a heavier bike. I had to search the reviews to find out it weighs ~25 lbs.  That's the same weight as my Klein and I'm looking to shed weight for longer rides.

So what advantages does steel bring?  I'm no Clydesdale like Mike (155 soaking wet) so I can get away with a much lighter frame.  Unless you guys are telling me I'll regret it because I risk a broken derailleur mount or something?

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steel, alum, ti are much more comfortable and forgiving.   CF tend to be super stiff and rigid, Hence why racers like them.

Look for a CAAD 10 frame used.  and build a bike.

 

also consider a wreck, metal generally survive much better.   A CF can be a once and done.

 

Metal doesn't mean heavy,  My Ti bike is around 16.25lbs.   now i'm way over your budget, but don't think a steel bike is an anchor

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It seems like a road bike makes sense for you, but 50-50 tires on your Klein with a smooth strip down the center and knobs on the edge would be a good all purpose bike set up.

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1500 bucks should get you a 105 (maybe ultegra mix too) carbon roadie, that's what I'd go for. Muke has no idea what he's talking about, CF is smooth, light and vibration absorbing, that's why its the standard now. All the frames are pretty much made in Taiwan under the direction of the brand label so its pretty much pick your color. Definitely get fitted, you may have to replace stem/bars depending on what stock equipment is, lots of shops will cut you a break on stuff like this if you're doing the fit session and buying a new bike.

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4 hours ago, Burn-E said:

But Cameron, why steel?  And when I look at All-City's listing for Mr Pink as well as any of their other bikes they don't list weight.  Which seems to me like they're trying to hide the fact that this is a heavier bike. I had to search the reviews to find out it weighs ~25 lbs.  That's the same weight as my Klein and I'm looking to shed weight for longer rides.

So what advantages does steel bring?  I'm no Clydesdale like Mike (155 soaking wet) so I can get away with a much lighter frame.  Unless you guys are telling me I'll regret it because I risk a broken derailleur mount or something?

Well, I personally like steel for a few reasons. One is the feel. I like the feel of a steel bike -- smooth and not harsh. Given, I've only ridden a handful of aluminum and CF bikes and am no expert on every modern bike. In my time in the saddle on them I found them to feel a little harsh and jarring over imperfect road surfaces. No big deal for shorter rides but leads to fatigue over longer rides for me. I'm by no means against those bikes and would LOVE to build up a Spooky or Argonaut but overall for the kind of riding I do and overall big picture steel makes the most sense for me. 

Yeah, the All City Mr. Pink complete spec'd from them isn't a lightweight. Building it up yourself with some select components can lighten it up a lot though. Just the frame is I think 4-ish pounds but the fork is a couple. On my latest Mr. Pink I opted to run an ENVE fork instead of the stock steel one. Just that dropped a lot of weight. That option kinda blows your budget though... My previous Mr. Pink I put a couple thousand miles on though with the stock steel fork and it still wan't that heavy. In the bigger scheme of things, I don't worry that much about a pound or two. There are other things that have a larger impact on ride quality that I'd prefer to put my money towards vs. spending more on shedding a bit of weight. Nice wheels for example.

It's all a personal preference thing of course. I'd encourage you to find a shop around you that has demo bikes you can try out. Test out a few steel bikes, test out some aluminum and carbon fiber too. Don't worry as much about every detail and try to focus on how each one feels and how the overall riding experience of each.

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2 hours ago, Fudge_Brownie said:

It seems like a road bike makes sense for you, but 50-50 tires on your Klein with a smooth strip down the center and knobs on the edge would be a good all purpose bike set up.

Yeah, but I'm not interested in doing 50-50 tires on the Klein.  It's a MTB that I intend to use primarily for trail riding once I find the right road bike.

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3 hours ago, Ol' Dirty Noodle said:

 

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Yeah, I used to get that when I was in my 20's. :laugh: Photos shot from 10 feet away in soft light do a great job of hiding all the signs of age.  Especially when my salt and pepper hair is hidden under a helmet.

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9 hours ago, Mesoam said:

1500 bucks should get you a 105 (maybe ultegra mix too) carbon roadie, that's what I'd go for. Muke has no idea what he's talking about, CF is smooth, light and vibration absorbing, that's why its the standard now. All the frames are pretty much made in Taiwan under the direction of the brand label so its pretty much pick your color. Definitely get fitted, you may have to replace stem/bars depending on what stock equipment is, lots of shops will cut you a break on stuff like this if you're doing the fit session and buying a new bike.

Yeah this.

like I've said over the years, road bikes are reaching the plateau of the tennis racket. They've evolved to a point and they all share basically the same construction, so it becomes a pick your size/grip length and balance.. "String" it up how you like and roll. 

(Most of you probably have no clue that I play tennis and have pretty nice selection of rackets ranging from early 90s to 2012 or so. My 2 favorites are mid 2k Wilson Hammers, one strung at 62# and one at 65#.)

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15 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said:

Most of you probably have no clue that I play tennis and have pretty nice selection of rackets ranging from early 90s to 2012 or so. My 2 favorites are mid 2k Wilson Hammers, one strung at 62# and one at 65#.)

I bet you grunt like Serena too.

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