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[TheSwedishBum]

noo... this is not another how to swap or how much it costs to swap a manual tranny from a auto.

My Auto tranny has been going bad for about a month and a half now. reason why? well when i first got the car (96 854 T, with 97.xxx) the tranny didnt fell so smoth. so the idiot i am, went to autozone and trusted one of them sales boys from there. pretty cool guys if you ask me and they know quite a few things but not everything. well they recomended me using the seafoam thing for the tranny. so i did. they explained that you just need to put it in and you should be fine. so i did. eager to just finally driver the car i didnt finish reading all of the instructions. (stupid i know) that was about 3 months ago.

Now... blinking arrow, big heavy thumping between shifting. it really sucks. i learned my lesson. but on the bright side. i get to do a manuall swap. and the best part about it is.... IM Getting The Tranny and everything i need for the Swap for $100 and it only has 70,xxx miles on it. its good to know people.

But anywho. my question is Approximately how many more miles do you guys think my auto tranny will last untill it finally gives in and dies on me? the old man says that i should just drive it untill it finally goes out and than do the swap. but my patients it running out and i want to enjoy the power of shifting between the palm of my hand allready. thanks.

[prasamin]

DO A FLUSH FIRST. God f'ing damnit that should always be the first thing to do, and obviously check the codes....maybe it's just PNP for all you know.

Seafoam comes out with the fluid if you flush.

[S60RDUDE]

DO A FLUSH FIRST. God f'ing damnit that should always be the first thing to do, and obviously check the codes....maybe it's just PNP for all you know.

Seafoam comes out with the fluid if you flush.

Haha that was too funny!!

[Slater]

If you want the manual and the only thing stopping you from getting the swap is your parents forcing you to wait until the auto takes a dump, maybe you need to help it along a little. A few neutral drops or a QT of coolant (or even sand if you really want it to go quick) mixed in with the tranny fluid should do the trick.

[TheSwedishBum]

DO A FLUSH FIRST. God f'ing damnit that should always be the first thing to do, and obviously check the codes....maybe it's just PNP for all you know.

Seafoam comes out with the fluid if you flush.

YA... i know. thats why i said i was an idiot not reading the complete instructions on it. and now i dont think getting a flush is a good idea. just a waste of more money. cause what if the seafoam has already screwed up the metal gears inside the tranny? not a chemistry major. but doesnt that seafoam chemical burn up or disintegrate after a long period of time if you dont get a tranny flush?

and getting the codes, ya. went to the same autozone and they were really busy. so i totaly forgot about it. i"ll go tomorrow.

But really. i dont want the auto tranny. why spend $80 on a PNP switch (if thats the problem) while i could just spend $100 bucks on a manual tranny. well its going to be a bit more than that. sure its ALOT OF LABOR, but its nothing i havent done before. i just want to show the old man the auto tranny is done before i put the new one in there.

[TheSwedishBum]

If you want the manual and the only thing stopping you from getting the swap is your parents forcing you to wait until the auto takes a dump, maybe you need to help it along a little. A few neutral drops or a QT of coolant (or even sand if you really want it to go quick) mixed in with the tranny fluid should do the trick.

i actually did not think of that. dont know why.

well i think im gonna do my tranny swap sooner that i thought, thanks for the help

[Slater]

i actually did not think of that. dont know why.

well i think im gonna do my tranny swap sooner that i thought, thanks for the help

Ah yes, Slater corrupting the youth. Gotta love it ;0)

[TurboSam]

Someone here that uses Lubegard for his automatic ? The auto pros here in Switz and Germany tell only good things about it. It's also recommended by lots of car manufactors.

It can't repair a mechanical issue but it can help the tranny to last longer.

Sam

[prasamin]

you need to do more research for the manual trans cost. it's not just the trans, but you need clutch, pedals, shifter, cables, slave, master, seals, fluid, etc.

if you're thinking it's going to be anywhere near $100, you may want to maintain your auto trans until you save some money.

I would still do a flush. But not until you've checked the codes

[PharmD]

you need to do more research for the manual trans cost. it's not just the trans, but you need clutch, pedals, shifter, cables, slave, master, seals, fluid, etc.

if you're thinking it's going to be anywhere near $100, you may want to maintain your auto trans until you save some money.

I would still do a flush. But not until you've checked the codes

Agreed. I hope you're aware of how much you're going to be spending. It's not as pretty as it looks, especially going from Auto to Manual...

[TheSwedishBum]

you need to do more research for the manual trans cost. it's not just the trans, but you need clutch, pedals, shifter, cables, slave, master, seals, fluid, etc.

if you're thinking it's going to be anywhere near $100, you may want to maintain your auto trans until you save some money.

I would still do a flush. But not until you've checked the codes

Well $100 is going to cost for all of that you've just mentioned, ecxpet for the seals and fluid and etc. and i've allready done my research. my buddy has a 95 850 glt 5-speed. so he said that i just have to pay him $100 bucks and i can take whatever i need for the swap.

and i allready made my list on what i need.

M56L
Brake / clutch pedal assem.
Master Cylinder
Hard line hose connecting to master/ slave cylinder
shift box/ shifter and shift boot
manual shifter linkage
throwout Fork
Drive Shafts
pressure plate
clutch disk
850 flywheel.
^ ^^ this is what im getting for $100 bucks

The Slave Cylinder, the Pilot bearing and the throwout bearing i have to buy New which will cost a bit more.
now if i forgot something please fell free to comment.
overall the labor is what's gonna kill me. this is going to take and my freind atleast 2 max. 3 days im guessing.

And im on my way to Autozone right now.

Edited by Swed_850, 09 December 2006 - 05:54 PM.

[maiku]

get new 850R clutch while you're at it

M56L ftw
H is bettar

[prasamin]

get new 850R clutch while you're at it

M56L ftw
H is bettar

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index.php?showtopic=65536


check out this link for the parts you need.

Also, because it's a 95 850, most likely you have an M56H. I would peak in there and check the label on there if it's still there, but there is a good chance that it's an H, because they changed from the L to the H mid way through 1994, which impacted almost all of the 1995 cars.

looks like you have yourself a KILLER deal there. Don't let your friend get on this board, cuz he'll see what he can really sell all that stuff for and he'll dump the deal you guys made lol.

[TheSwedishBum]

get new 850R clutch while you're at it

M56L ftw
H is bettar

Ya i know the H is better. but at 100 bucks... im not complaining.
and im trying to get a R clutch and meaby a ECU for the manual. i know i read somewhere on here that RICA or IPD can fix your Auto ECU to Manual. but i forgot. i'll probely look more into that later.

ok so i got the codes from auto zone. a bit surprise to see what i got.
P0120....TPS/Pedal Position Sensor A Circuit Malfunction
P0123....TPS/Pedal Position Sensor A Circuit High Input
P1507....Idle air control (IAC) valve signal closing Low
P1505....Idle air control (IAC) valve signal opening Low
these are the only codes i got.

well last month i replaced the PCV System and i might of not put the throttle body back right. but im not getting any codes for the tranny. does that mean that it is the PNP switch or?

[prasamin]

Ya i know the H is better. but at 100 bucks... im not complaining.
and im trying to get a R clutch and meaby a ECU for the manual. i know i read somewhere on here that RICA or IPD can fix your Auto ECU to Manual. but i forgot. i'll probely look more into that later.

ok so i got the codes from auto zone. a bit surprise to see what i got.
P0120....TPS/Pedal Position Sensor A Circuit Malfunction
P0123....TPS/Pedal Position Sensor A Circuit High Input
P1507....Idle air control (IAC) valve signal closing Low
P1505....Idle air control (IAC) valve signal opening Low
these are the only codes i got.

well last month i replaced the PCV System and i might of not put the throttle body back right. but im not getting any codes for the tranny. does that mean that it is the PNP switch or?

no, you need to first check the TPS....it's a $40 part, and easy to replace....check the throttle first, and then clean the electrical harnesses going into the TPS that is attached to the throttle body. I had a similar thing, and it seemed like the trans was shifting funny, and the arrow was on.....it ended up being the TPS.

for the IAC, just pull it off, spray alot of carb cleaner in it to make sure it's clean and the internal "flap" is rotating freely. Let it dry, and clean the electrical harnesses, and reinstall....should help a bit.

Make sure to have a new throttle gasket handy.

[TheSwedishBum]

no, you need to first check the TPS....it's a $40 part, and easy to replace....check the throttle first, and then clean the electrical harnesses going into the TPS that is attached to the throttle body. I had a similar thing, and it seemed like the trans was shifting funny, and the arrow was on.....it ended up being the TPS.

for the IAC, just pull it off, spray alot of carb cleaner in it to make sure it's clean and the internal "flap" is rotating freely. Let it dry, and clean the electrical harnesses, and reinstall....should help a bit.

Make sure to have a new throttle gasket handy.

really. huh... i might just try that. waiting a little bit longer to do the swap wont hurt. thanks pras. you sure do know alot about this stuff.