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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:36 AM

As some of you know there have been rumors that the silver Evolve car owned by Matt Powers met an untimely end. Sadly these rumors are true and the car is currently in pieces. Hopefully like Lazareth the S60 will rise again. As with any other cloud this one too has a silver lining. Through this engine and tuner we can hopefully all learn more about the limits of our cars and how to safely push them.

For those of you not familiar with this vehicle I urge you to first do some basic research either here on on the web about it. This S60 was recently featured in Motortrend. Using bolt on parts Evolve was able to push this car all the way to 362hp. What happened next is what should interest all of you. The 2.5L block is somewhat prone to crack the sleeves when pushed. As with most engine failures this is a product of tuning. Engines fail due to tuning. Whether it is incorrect tuning, poor tuning, or simply pushing them too hard. At this point no one can say what caused the Evlove engine to suffer the cracked sleeves. In the end its just a causality of tuning which will help us all push our cars further. With that we have some images of the engine in its current state.






For anyone doubting this is in fact the Evolve car:


I have contacted Don at Evolve with the hopes that we can all learn more about this specific engine. Should we all be worried about even bolt on parts? Was this an isolated event? Is something else the cause? Hopefully as time goes by we can learn from this. What we must remember is we do not have all the facts. Even though you may be tempted you should only discuss fact and not rumor and speculation.



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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:57 AM

i'll say we learned something.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 03:31 AM

what kind of bolt ons will do that? oh yeah you said i should do research first.. lol. thats whack man, im gonna go look it up here and on s.s.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 03:42 AM

That's too bad. Didn't you say at a different time that the sleeves on the 2.5L engines would squirm at like 7000 or 8000 RPM, Chuck?
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:38 AM

Interesting.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:56 AM

wow same thing that happen to mine. At the exact same hp level except mine was on the stock trubo. 362whp and mine cracked the of the cyl walls. The guy building my engine said it was from the cyl getting too hot and expanding the cyl walls. so my new motor will have alot better tolerance between the piston and the cyl walls.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:00 AM

Wow. I guess you pay to play.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:03 AM

Hmm... interesting.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:04 AM

is this car in PA somewhere?,
thought I saw somewhere else on VS in the last couple of days
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:05 AM

QUOTE(Evil E @ Jan 20 2007, 12:00 AM) View Post
Wow. I guess you pay to play.

Evolves gotta pay. They promised him a perfect car, but instead he got a pile of shit.

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is this car in PA somewhere?,
thought I saw somewhere else on VS in the last couple of days

I know Matt lives in PA, don't know where the car is though.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:09 AM

QUOTE(gdizzle @ Jan 20 2007, 12:05 AM) View Post
I know Matt lives in PA, don't know where the car is though.



rob saw it at a york dealer i believe some time ago.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:17 AM

Is it truly Evolves fault or are they just a scape goat? If they are responsible, did they agree to fix it?

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE(notyourspoon @ Jan 19 2007, 11:17 PM) View Post
Is it truly Evolves fault or are they just a scape goat? If they are responsible, did they agree to fix it?


None of that matters. We are a tuning forum not a legal one. All that really matters is what happened here an why.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:20 AM

QUOTE(Che_Moderator @ Jan 20 2007, 12:19 AM) View Post
None of hat matters. We are a tuning forum not a legal one. All that really matters is what happened here an why.

And the quality of workmanship.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:25 AM

i'm sure someone saw this car at a volvo shop and posted a thread, but I can't find the thread. mad.gif
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:28 AM

The member Jay did. I am not releasing any info though on location, or what was said. If he opts to thats his business.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:28 AM

If they promised a good car, I would go after them for sure. Or maybe they actually thought it was a good car! huh.gif
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:29 AM

QUOTE(canadian854 @ Jan 19 2007, 11:28 PM) View Post
If they promised a good car, I would go after them for sure. Or maybe they actually thought it was a good car! huh.gif


You have info we do not?

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:35 AM

Ah.. who said it to me... don't mod your daily driver... not that this was Matt's DD.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE(canadian854 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:28 PM) View Post
If they promised a good car, I would go after them for sure. Or maybe they actually thought it was a good car! huh.gif



you can over rev or overheat well built cars too....how you drive it has alot to do with it too, not only the build quality.




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