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[Mesoam]

And the quality of workmanship.

or lacking therefore of

[rodrigo]

What we must remember is we do not have all the facts. Even though you may be tempted you should only discuss fact and not rumor and speculation.

how long did this car run until it blew...?

[Trunks850R]

i need to add a S60R to my collection

[PharmD]

i need to add a S60R to my collection

Don't we all

Sucks about the Evolve S60R, but you learn by mistake...

[narxs70]

wow, that sucks for that guy. i wish we had more info on what happened before this happened. This just proves the point about a great tune.

[Che'_Moderator]

wow, that sucks for that guy. i wish we had more info on what happened before this happened. This just proves the point about a great tune.

Maybe it was a good tune. GIAC was one of the best tunes if you had a good driver at the wheel. If not they would blow engines.

[BlackT5]

Maybe it was a good tune. GIAC was one of the best tunes if you had a good driver at the wheel. If not they would blow engines.

What was the car tuned with?
How much boost?
Stock bottom end?
What other mods were done? exhaust size? turbo? head work?

Do you have any of this info Charles or is that why you contacted Evolve?

Interesting to see how they tapped the turbine for the external gate.

[Geevs]

The 2.5L block is somewhat prone to crack the sleeves when pushed.

What about the 2.3L HPT engines?

[Che'_Moderator]

What about the 2.3L HPT engines?

No. You were give the gift of plastic rods and craptastic heads instead.

[JCviggen]

No. You were give the gift of plastic rods and craptastic heads instead.

Luckily those things are easier to fix!

[ultra_runner]

Maybe Chuck can enlighten us a tad here. If the sleeves are easily crackable (..is that a word..), what has AtSpeed done to their GT car blocks to hold 600HP? I think there was a thread deep in the bowels of the board about forged steel sleeves...

Any enlightenment?

Scott C.

[Che'_Moderator]

Luckily those things are easier to fix!

But then you still give up .2L displacement

[narxs70]

Maybe Chuck can enlighten us a tad here. If the sleeves are easily crackable (..is that a word..), what has AtSpeed done to their GT car blocks to hold 600HP? I think there was a thread deep in the bowels of the board about forged steel sleeves...

Any enlightenment?

Scott C.

they have probably sealed or what ever you do to the top of the block that eliminates the cylinder movement at high RPMs.

[Che'_Moderator]

Maybe Chuck can enlighten us a tad here. If the sleeves are easily crackable (..is that a word..), what has AtSpeed done to their GT car blocks to hold 600HP? I think there was a thread deep in the bowels of the board about forged steel sleeves...

Any enlightenment?

Scott C.

I used forged sleeves. As for Atspeed I cannot say. If I had to, guess , I would say they are not making 600hp. I would also guess there are some other tricks.

[Helmut Ranff]

I used forged sleeves. As for Atspeed I cannot say. If I had to, guess , I would say they are not making 600hp. I would also guess there are some other tricks.

Charles for the win. The race car is light as a feather and there a rules that keep it around 450-500 anyway. A little bird told me they are using the stock cylinders at least
with the Cosworth perhaps also the Mahle. Keep in mind they do something like 25 laps
and they run on the very edge of rich and so every once in a while fire comes out. Sometimes they get fire spitting out of the side many times per lap. It is not lean like a guy with a bad tune plus then also NOS (not good idea
at all for these OIO cylinders

Do I want sleeves like Charles yes, do I have them no

[KnightInAVolvo]

Ouch.... Well I knew that seeing a volvo in a mag as the featured tune was too good to be true.... now when people find out that it poped in a short time.... haha i agre you gota pay to play!

[matt b]

For those of you not familiar with this vehicle I urge you to first do some basic research either here on on the web about it.

For those too lazy to search, but still curious about the whole thing, here's an article about it.

European Car Article

That's a sad ending for that car. I'm still gathering info on what's involved with a 're-sleeve' of such a block, I'll edit this post accordingly if I find enough adequate info.

[Che'_Moderator]

For those too lazy to search, but still curious about the whole thing, here's an article about it.

European Car Article

That's a sad ending for that car. I'm still gathering info on what's involved with a 're-sleeve' of such a block, I'll edit this post accordingly if I find enough adequate info.

The Evolve car was not sleeved. Thats the OEM block.

[yorkbrick]

I've seen this car.
Man, I would extremly disappointed to pay all that money for such crappy craftsmanship. IMHO
FYI the wheels are rubbing the paint of the calipers also. Think about whats happening there?

[Mike H.]

Here's the ECU wiring: