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15 hours ago, JaredR1 said:

Maybe I just have a different outlook on it all.....if you're looking to have the fastest car in town, you're on the wrong forum.  It's about the whole experience for me, and 250-300 bhp is fast enough for the experience I expect and want out of a P80.  I figure with my 850R project, if I throw on either a 16T or match up a K24 with a fairly conservative tune and spend a few grand replacing every wear item (wheel bearings, steering rack, brakes, blah blah blah), I should be good to go for like 200k miles on little to nothing more than routine maintenance (as long as I buy some random stuff $1k winter car to keep it out of the salt and high risk driving situations....like snow).  The car cost me about $2.5k, and I figure another $3-4k for the engine and manual swap, another $2-3k to stage zero everything and maybe a little more for random upgrades here and there so, for let's say about $8-10k, I have a car that's very enjoyable to drive, extremely comfortable, cool, reliable, and reasonably fast.  Not only should I not have to worry about another vehicle purchase for 10-20 years unless I want to or something goes horribly wrong, but I'll own a car that's going up in value and will protect my investment in it far better than most 20 year old cars I would want to daily drive would.  My 850s are just a small part of a much larger plan that goes into effect the second I graduate, which allows me to maximize my savings rate and start seriously investing for things like retirement, the 105 year old 54' sailboat I want to buy and restore, a Ferrari 550, a Citroen SM, and a barn to keep all this stuff in.

Well said. I think about getting rid of mine, but then I look at it sitting outside my office and realistically... how many of these do you see? None really. You see shitty 850s or V70s on the road all the time, but a nice looking R or a Volvo that has been well cared for and upgraded is extremely rare (outside a forum). I'll hold on to my Volvo, it's definitely enough fun to drive; and I'm not trying to pretend that my 280 to 300 BHP is a racecar, but it definitely surprises everyone in the passenger seat when I hammer through 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear. I still have my 2 Datsuns, I need to focus on an LSX swap in one of those for a fun, fast car; leave the Volvo alone now and just make it a comfortable, dependable DD beater.

I will say this... so far I have about 1500 miles on the used engine I just put in, and not a drop low on oil. My old engine would've been a quart low by now.

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Well that was short lived... the f'king low coolant light came on for a second today when I first started it, then went off after it idled for a minute. Checked it and the overflow is about a quart low, which means it's loosing about maybe a quart of coolant every week and a half. That'll be a fun leak to find when the bottom of the car is completely covered in snow, salt and ice.

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I'm curious, how many of you guys put anti-seize on your spark plugs?  I spent about 4 hours slooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwly working the spark plugs out of my T-5R over the past two days and decided to put some of the ancient Al/Cu/graphite/secret sauce Never Seez we have on them in the hope that this, combined with not waiting 100k to change my spark plugs next time, would make this job take the 10 minutes that it should.  To say that some of the people I've been talking to since then about that are down on this idea would be the understatement of the year.

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15 minutes ago, JaredR1 said:

I'm curious, how many of you guys put anti-seize on your spark plugs?  I spent about 4 hours slooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwly working the spark plugs out of my T-5R over the past two days and decided to put some of the ancient Al/Cu/graphite/secret sauce Never Seez we have on them in the hope that this, combined with not waiting 100k to change my spark plugs next time, would make this job take the 10 minutes that it should.  To say that some of the people I've been talking to since then about that are down on this idea would be the understatement of the year.

I don't think I ever have. I feel like I've seen a dab on Volvo blue-box plugs from the factory, but I took a quick look at pictures and I'm not seeing evidence of that. NGK recommends against it, saying no need because of their plating, and that the anti-seize may lead to over torquing because it has a lubrication effect.

They were really in there that tight? Or are you just being super precautious? I've had the plugs take some force to remove. But a couple good twist 'impacts' with the ratchet and they'll usually break free.

If you talk to people with experience on those infamous Ford F150 heads, where the threads like 2 coils deep and were easily damaged, they might have more extreme views.

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4 minutes ago, Fudge_Brownie said:

I don't think I ever have. I feel like I've seen a dab on Volvo blue-box plugs from the factory, but I took a quick look at pictures and I'm not seeing evidence of that. NGK recommends against it, saying no need because of their plating, and that the anti-seize may lead to over torquing because it has a lubrication effect.

They were really in there that tight? Or are you just being super precautious? I've had the plugs take some force to remove. But a couple good twist 'impacts' with the ratchet and they'll usually break free.

If you talk to people with experience on those infamous Ford F150 heads, where the threads like 2 coils deep and were easily damaged, they might have more extreme views.

They weren't in there that tight - cylinders 1 and 2 were super easy, but with 3, 4 and 5, it felt like they were getting tighter when I started unscrewing them......that's never a good feeling.  Dumped some penetrating oil in those and then let sit overnight, then spent a few hours slowly working the plugs back and forth to get the oil in.  Probably more cautious than necessary, but I don't want to screw anything up because I'm being impatient.

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21 hours ago, andyb5 said:

I'm guessing either heater core lines at the firewall or coolant hoses on the back of the block 

I'm hoping it's the banjo fitting at the new turbo cartridge that's leaking. I replaced the heater core lines at the firewall with rubber hose that I ran through the firewall straight into the heater core a couple years ago (eliminated that stupid plastic union). I'll pull it in the garage tomorrow night and leave the heat on overnight so all this BS melts off it, then I can hopefully start it and let it idle for a while and try to find the leak.

12 hours ago, JaredR1 said:

I'm curious, how many of you guys put anti-seize on your spark plugs?  I spent about 4 hours slooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwly working the spark plugs out of my T-5R over the past two days and decided to put some of the ancient Al/Cu/graphite/secret sauce Never Seez we have on them in the hope that this, combined with not waiting 100k to change my spark plugs next time, would make this job take the 10 minutes that it should.  To say that some of the people I've been talking to since then about that are down on this idea would be the understatement of the year.

I never do for the same reason as Fudge (NGK says not to). The plugs in the used engine I got that had about 100k miles on it came out pretty hard too (pretty sure they were original); a lot of back and forth with the ratchet and lubed with Sea Foam. I also wipe Sea Foam on the new plug's threads with a towel before I put them in, helps clean the crap out of the head and makes them thread in SO much better. Bottom line is... replace your plugs at least every 30k miles or maybe 2 years because... why not? They're cheap.

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1 hour ago, mattsk8 said:

Bottom line is... replace your plugs at least every 30k miles or maybe 2 years because... why not? They're cheap.

Because that's sooooo 1999. Buy fancy plugs, and forget about them. Well, except it might be a good idea to check them a little more frequently than every 100k :laugh: If you're running a lot of boost, I might see changing plugs more often as a preventative thing.

I remember that NGK thing because I never liked the feel of torquing a bolt down with anti-seize or threadlocker on it. Makes me nervous.

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29 minutes ago, Fudge_Brownie said:

Because that's sooooo 1999.

Haha, I was totally thinking P80 when I said that. I should get off my high horse anyhow... Lord only knows how many miles are on the plugs in the wife's Escalade. I imagine those will be fun for me to change... someday.

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On December 16, 2016 at 0:48 PM, mattsk8 said:

Haha, I was totally thinking P80 when I said that. I should get off my high horse anyhow... Lord only knows how many miles are on the plugs in the wife's Escalade. I imagine those will be fun for me to change... someday.

Changing plugs in an LQ is no big deal

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11 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said:

Changing plugs in an LQ is no big deal

I've changed them in the 5.3 and the 6.0 before. But mine has 150k miles and I'm pretty sure they're OE plugs. When I say "fun to change" I mean I don't want one breaking off in the head. The ones I changed in the 6.0 a while back came out real hard, easy to change as spark plugs go, but not if one breaks off in the head. I also need to fix the exhaust manifold studs on it.

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