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[matt b]

Paul's got a point....

[lookforjoe]

Reds actually flow 5cc MORE then the oranges.


Gary

Thanks, Gary!

[lookforjoe]

I'll be just fine, just fine. Current state doesn't have inspection, state we're probably moving to doesn't either. I just got tired of that CEL and the fact that the car was acting up with the auto ECU.

And as far as I know, this issue is the case with all Euro ECU or remaps.

Doesn't apply to IPD remaps - I have no problem with the OBII port function; I also got it inspected after installation.

[matt b]

Hussein: is that with an auto ECU that was remapped or just one with a performance tune on it ?

All that I've read states that manual remaps aren't OBDII compatible just yet, but I'd like to be wrong.

[Aequitas_Veritas]

Hussein: is that with an auto ECU that was remapped or just one with a performance tune on it ?

All that I've read states that manual remaps aren't OBDII compatible just yet, but I'd like to be wrong.

so there is no way to smog a manual car in cali? damn thats a bummer.

[matt b]

so there is no way to smog a manual car in cali? damn thats a bummer.

Wow, never said that. Canada has OBDII compliant ECU's. I'm just having a hard time tracking them down for less than $500.

[68123GT]

Looking for some last minute advise on a manual swap - Doing a manual swap on a 95 T-5R 1st weekend of March - have all the mechanical parts in order - just wondering what ECU I need? I figure it will run with the OEM auto trans ECU for the mean time (I know it will set a CEL) but am looking for the correct part # - what works in your experience? Not worried if it is chipped as long as it is the correct T-5R or "like" performance ECU. Where is the best place to locate one and does any one have one the want to get rid of? Any other words of wisdom would be appreciated - looking forward to the end result!

[tomtbone]

well my 851 ecu is supposedly a 96 850 T5 manual ecu, I just need to check it with someone who has an obdII manual swap

[Big Will]

Looking for some last minute advise on a manual swap - Doing a manual swap on a 95 T-5R 1st weekend of March - have all the mechanical parts in order - just wondering what ECU I need? I figure it will run with the OEM auto trans ECU for the mean time (I know it will set a CEL) but am looking for the correct part # - what works in your experience? Not worried if it is chipped as long as it is the correct T-5R or "like" performance ECU. Where is the best place to locate one and does any one have one the want to get rid of? Any other words of wisdom would be appreciated - looking forward to the end result!

You should be able to use your Auto ECU. Just remove the TCU once you've done the swap. I don't think you'll get any codes this way. B Mac has a 95 that he recently swapped and I believe his auto ECU minus TCU method is working for him.

[68123GT]

You should be able to use your Auto ECU. Just remove the TCU once you've done the swap. I don't think you'll get any codes this way. B Mac has a 95 that he recently swapped and I believe his auto ECU minus TCU method is working for him.

If that is the case I will just try running what I got and see what happens... the worse I figure will happen is a CEL.

[Aequitas_Veritas]

Wow, never said that. Canada has OBDII compliant ECU's. I'm just having a hard time tracking them down for less than $500.

but isnt it the map that indicates that anyways? So that would only be relavant to people who want to keep the stock tune. If there was a american manual map that RICA had, then they could fix that issue. Problem is that all the maps they get are from oversees, and therefore are not OBDII compatible.

[Boomin850]

Paul's got a point....

Trying...Talked to George already...he should be getting something set up

[stevwong]

I got the #851 ECU also obdll for 95 850 tubro at UK but not work for mine because they had the immobilizer.
and to use the auto ECU without any problem.
Btw can any of you tell me how to bypass the immobilizerat the #851 ECU?

[matt b]

but isnt it the map that indicates that anyways? So that would only be relavant to people who want to keep the stock tune. If there was a american manual map that RICA had, then they could fix that issue. Problem is that all the maps they get are from oversees, and therefore are not OBDII compatible.

Correct. If you get a tune, you're getting a European tune, which isn't OBDII compliant. But RICA had indicated that they might try to move on to OBDII soon.

[matt b]

You should be able to use your Auto ECU. Just remove the TCU once you've done the swap. I don't think you'll get any codes this way. B Mac has a 95 that he recently swapped and I believe his auto ECU minus TCU method is working for him.

You can use the auto ECU, I ran that in my 97 855 for a full year before switching to a manual ECU. The problems are:
-jerky car when you let off the gas since RPM's drop quicker
-shifting takes a little getting used to for the same reason, you have to be a little bit more gentle with the clutch
-CEL for P1618, missing auxiliary input/output, which is the code for your missing TCU.
-Don't run your TCU, or you will trigger other codes and have a flashing arrow in the dash.
-You will run lean when you let off the throttle (not lean enough to trigger a code but leaner than a manual ECU)
-You won't pass inspection b/c of the CEL.

[Big Will]

Matt,
I could be wrong, but I think Ben is not getting any CEL codes due to the missing TCU at the moment. I think he has an idle air control issue or something like that which is giving him a CEL, but no other codes and as you said, now that the TCU is pulled, there is no more flashing arrow.

[matt b]

Matt,
I could be wrong, but I think Ben is not getting any CEL codes due to the missing TCU at the moment. I think he has an idle air control issue or something like that which is giving him a CEL, but no other codes and as you said, now that the TCU is pulled, there is no more flashing arrow.

Joe, (Gieseppe) said the same thing. I think some 94 or early 95 cars are CEL free that way. Doug's was the same way as well. But if your car is OBDII compliant, then you'll have the dreaded CEL.

[Big Will]

Gotcha. Yea when I was working on the interior RR in Ben's car I actually didn't notice if it had OBDII or not...clearly not. Lucky him lol.

If I use that T5 M ECU I have in my 98 AWD when I do my swap, I should be CEL free too then correct?

[matt b]

Gotcha. Yea when I was working on the interior RR in Ben's car I actually didn't notice if it had OBDII or not...clearly not. Lucky him lol.

If I use that T5 M ECU I have in my 98 AWD when I do my swap, I should be CEL free too then correct?

It won't work, don't use a 98 or later ECU in a 97 or earlier car, it'll fry your AC controls.

I shipped the TCU's this morning with DHL. You should have them by Wednesday of next week.

[Big Will]

Oh yea no, this is a 98 T5M ECU that will eventually go into a 98 AWD car. Both are M 4.4 I know that it will physically work, I'm just hoping this is a good alternative to finding a European ECU for an AWD Manual car (very hard to find used - even in Sweden I think).

My question is more - I shouldn't get a CEL at all once I use a Manual ECU correct?

Thanks for the TCUs! I'm sure they'll come in handy for some one at some point down the road.

Edited by Big Will, 21 February 2008 - 08:40 PM.