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Posted 27 September 2004 - 04:56 PM

Can anyone recommend a reliable good sounding
cassette for an 850

One with Dolby B

Seems like cassette players harder to find nowadays

Also what brand of speakers are able to
replace the front of an 850- a component speaker and
tweeter combo

Many thanks



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Posted 27 September 2004 - 05:41 PM

QUOTE(Guest_John_* @ Sep 27 2004, 09:56 AM)
Can anyone recommend a reliable good sounding
cassette for an 850

One with Dolby B

Seems like cassette players harder to find nowadays

Also what brand of speakers are able to
replace the front of an 850- a component speaker and
tweeter combo

Many thanks
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ok... someone's going to say it... What's a "cassette"? Are those the things with the tape inside the little plastic thingies? Don't even waste your time with a cassette deck man! For probably 20 bucks more you can get a cd player.... They're so cool! You can instantly skip to the next song.. it's AMAZING... haha..
As for the speakers, any one of the big stores or your local stereo shop can tell you that... Sounddomain is a great resource to check out as well.

Edited by '98S70R, 27 September 2004 - 05:41 PM.

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 07:13 PM

I've got an OEM SC-810 volvo cassette deck... You get the fit, look, and quality of OEM, and have your cassette functions tongue.gif Of course, it was promptly ripped out for my cd deck and changer... so now the sc-810 looks nice on my shelf. PM me if you wanna make an offer for it pizza.gif

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 08:30 PM

EXCUSE ME FOR LIVING

CD's blow man. Wait until everything is out on SACD and DVD
audio. Then you throw away all of that gear too.

I am not a millionaire like you I guess. I have a Volvo mainly because
they last a long time I am a working stiff and can't go buying all the
latest technology. My main reason is I like to make mixed tapes. I also
prefer the sound honestly. I borrow people's CD and make tapes

Surely there is still a good manufacturer. I know Alpine makes one but
for some reason I don't think it has dolby B NR.

BING do you have any ideas for a tape deck?

What about speakers. I know you like kick panels but what would
you install in the 850 factory areas if you had to?

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE(Guest_John_* @ Sep 27 2004, 01:30 PM)
EXCUSE ME FOR LIVING

CD's blow man. Wait until everything is out on SACD and DVD
audio. Then you throw away all of that gear too.

I am not a millionaire like you I guess. I have a Volvo mainly because
they last a long time I am a working stiff and can't go buying all the
latest technology. My main reason is I like to make mixed tapes. I also
prefer the sound honestly. I borrow people's CD and make tapes

Surely there is still a good manufacturer. I know Alpine makes one but
for some reason I don't think it has dolby B NR.

BING do you have any ideas for a tape deck?

What about speakers. I know you like kick panels but what would
you install in the 850 factory areas if you had to?
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The Alpine TDM-7582 is around 125 bucks.
The Alpine CDM-9821 is around 110 bucks.

Thank god I'm a millionaire.
PS. I have a Volvo too.
PS. I work hard
PS. Mixed tapes are for little girls who were in 5th grade. (fifteen years ago)
PS. Tapes do not sound better than Cd's.
PS. Cd's have been out for almost 20 years, thus making them not the "latest technology."
PS. When SACD and DVD audio come out. You won't be able to afford it anyway.

Good luck with your tapes man.
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 04:40 AM

and a warm welcome to Guest John
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE(The Reverend @ Sep 28 2004, 12:40 AM)
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Yeah, '98S70R lay off man.

IMO, any casette deck made my a reputable company will suit your needs. As far as front door replacement speakers, I know that infinity makes a set of 5.25" speakers for our doors that come with a crossover and tweeters that are good. Most of the guys on the board however only have a single set of speakers in the front (most have infinity references, and will tell you that they are good enough). I myself only run two infinity refs. and a sub in the back. So basically any 5.25" speakers will fit into your doors. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.


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Posted 28 September 2004 - 12:52 PM

I think that some folks prefer the warmer sound of tapes to CD. Its a completely analog recording unlike the 1's and 0's on a digital track.
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE(BenW @ Sep 28 2004, 05:52 AM)
I think that some folks prefer the warmer sound of tapes to CD.  Its a completely analog recording unlike the 1's and 0's on a digital track.
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But those 1's and 0's are just a recording that doesn't change... tapes degrade over time, and digital recordings don't -- that's the appeal... The 1's and 0's can be manipulated to sound however you wish... If an artist wants warm tones, then they can record that way...

I could never understand that "warm" or "real" argument because it's not the recording -- but it's the degredation of the medium -- that's not part of the music. A CD is a permanent record of how the artist intended the record to be.

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE(potroast @ Sep 28 2004, 08:09 AM)
QUOTE(BenW @ Sep 28 2004, 05:52 AM)
I think that some folks prefer the warmer sound of tapes to CD.  Its a completely analog recording unlike the 1's and 0's on a digital track.
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But those 1's and 0's are just a recording that doesn't change... tapes degrade over time, and digital recordings don't -- that's the appeal... The 1's and 0's can be manipulated to sound however you wish... If an artist wants warm tones, then they can record that way...

I could never understand that "warm" or "real" argument because it's not the recording -- but it's the degredation of the medium -- that's not part of the music. A CD is a permanent record of how the artist intended the record to be.
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I was just razzin the new "guest" all meant in fun. biggrin.gif If ya want to throw a tape deck in yer car, go for it. = )
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 07:15 PM

Thank you for the info. The dealer that I would get from
sells only Alpine, MB quart and Boston Acoustics speakers

Alpine and Clarion only option for head units at this dealer

Any suggestion out of this lineup. Also since you have only
2 front speakers and a sub are you against component speakers
in the front and 6 x 9 in the rear deck. I would look to amplify the
rear deck

Thanks again so much for info, experience

My exact situation is that I don't really like the sound of CD's but it is also
financial. I have a home tape deck and a home CD but not a CD recorder. I cannot see getting a CD recorder when my tape deck is in really good condition. I like to make mixed artist recordings for the car (variety) and my Volvo stock speakers
really sound like crap and the OEM tape deck is shot is a crummy tape
deck mechanically. If it is Alpine made *SC-710" is the model- I would look to stay away from Alpine. This leaves Clarion which I know nothing about

I have heard that Boston Acoustics are good but I do not know that much about
them.

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE(Guest_John_* @ Sep 28 2004, 12:15 PM)
Thank you for the info. The dealer that I would get from
sells only Alpine, MB quart and Boston Acoustics speakers

Alpine and Clarion only option for head units at this dealer

Any suggestion out of this lineup. Also since you have only
2 front speakers and a sub are you against component speakers
in the front and 6 x 9 in the rear deck. I would look to amplify the
rear deck

Thanks again so much for info, experience

My exact situation is that I don't really like the sound of CD's but it is also
financial. I have a home tape deck and a home CD but not a CD recorder. I cannot see getting a CD recorder when my tape deck is in really good condition. I like to make mixed artist recordings for the car (variety) and my Volvo stock speakers
really sound like crap and the OEM tape deck is shot is a crummy tape
deck mechanically. If it is Alpine made *SC-710" is the model- I would look to stay away from Alpine. This leaves Clarion which I know nothing about

I have heard that Boston Acoustics are good but I do not know that much about
them.
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John, BA speakers are awesome...as are MB Quart. That's what I would pick from. With MB slightly ahead. my. .02
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 07:38 PM

I've got a set of bostons that I like a lot. I've never used MB myself, but I've heard a lot of systems that use them, and they're excellent speakers, as well.

if you're only gonna amp a pair of speakers, do the fronts... You want your better speakers up in the front stage -- and an overpowering rear fill is just poo.

I have been happy with Alpine head units, but alas, I only do cds. I cannot comment on their tape mechanisms. Clarion has some nice units -- but I like the Alpines more... Again, that does not take into account tape functions in either brand.

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 07:49 PM

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I've got a set of bostons that I like a lot.  I've never used MB myself, but I've heard a lot of systems that use them, and they're excellent speakers, as well.

if you're only gonna amp a pair of speakers, do the fronts...  You want your better speakers up in the front stage -- and an overpowering rear fill is just poo.

I have been happy with Alpine head units, but alas, I only do cds.  I cannot comment on their tape mechanisms.  Clarion has some nice units -- but I like the Alpines more...  Again, that does not take into account tape functions in either brand.
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That is really cracking me up. Can you explain the rear fill being poo.
It seems to me that if I amp the back and drive those the much and
fill with the forward speakers I'd be better off

It really is like Bing says the stock locations are SO bad. I mean the left speaker
is right on top of you. That to me is why I feel the component tweeters are so important to an 850

I have a lot to learn but I am without tunes at present so their is urgency

Again though that is the funniest thing I've read in a while

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 01:24 AM

ask bing... the best setup is a good front-stage with NOTHING in the rear. At most, you want rear *fill*.. not "oh my god all the sound is behind me" ohmy.gif


but whatever, you can stick with crappy front speakers, overpowering rears, and your craptastical casettes monkey.gif

Maybe I'm being harsh, but I think it's funny that you are telling me that I'm backwards, when, well, there's no nice way to end that sentence, so good night rolleyes.gif

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 02:36 AM

I guess it is somewhat pleasant of you to post anonymously and insult people, Guest John, but hey...
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The only upgrade is my stereo.
She said I was living too much in '82.
HU: Alpine CDA 9825
Amplifier: Kicker KX 600.4
Front Stage: Crystal CSX 615 in Kicks (by Bing)
Rear Stage: Nothing.
Subs: 2 Crystal Pro Se 10" subs in a sealed enclosure

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE(potroast @ Sep 29 2004, 01:24 AM)
ask bing... the best setup is a good front-stage with NOTHING in the rear.  At most, you want rear *fill*.. not "oh my god all the sound is behind me"  ohmy.gif


but whatever, you can stick with crappy front speakers, overpowering rears, and your craptastical casettes  monkey.gif

Maybe I'm being harsh, but I think it's funny that you are telling me that I'm backwards, when, well, there's no nice way to end that sentence, so good night  rolleyes.gif
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Oh no I mean that referring to something as poo is pretty darn funny.
I certainly don't want to do something that results in sounding like poo.

It was meant to be a complement for your humor which practically
made me spit up my coffee at work. I mean I never heard an audiophile
conversation involving the poo factor or poo phase shift. That was all that
was about. smile.gif Humor

That is interesting though. I can understand why kicks would be so important
The stock locations are really poo there is no doubt about that. I guess that is
why I was thinking about filling with the front and driving the rears. I have a sedan
by the way maybe Bings theory is for wagons. To me the chief problem is running
the balance to the right front speaker to even get a stereo image and then hoping that the left rear will compensate for the left channel. That is what I do now

(I put the balance to the right and bring it back to the point where I can just hear
the left channel. Then I notice the left rear and it fills the deal up.

I guess the key is a really good equalizer in these cars. I do think the component
tweeters are needed in this car though to get the sound stage up unless you
have good kicks pointed right up at you.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 02:33 PM

All I got to say is, get rid of your tapes, and go to CD's. The qaulity is much better, and it sounds way better.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE(V Tuning 850 @ Sep 29 2004, 02:33 PM)
All I got to say is, get rid of your tapes, and go to CD's.  The qaulity is much better, and it sounds way better.
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How do you run your system from a front and back (fader) perspective?

Those 3" in the dash sound good?

Sounds like a good system. Do you have a CD recorder at home
or do you mainly listing to the 6 disc changer?

Maybe I need to suck it up and get a CD recorder. I assume one
can make mixed CD's for personal use, right

Thanks

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 03:13 PM

Do you have a decent computer at home? (over 800MHz) If so, you can get a 52x CD-RW drive for around $40. It's perfect for making mixed CD's.


As for my setup, I run CDT CL-51 components up front (on a Crossfire TEK 75.2 amp) and nothing in the rear. The bass is handeled by a JL 12" and JL monoblock. If I were to do it again, I'd use an eD sub and prolly stick with the JL monoblock.


After running only the fronts for a while, I decided to hook the rears up just to see, and it killed the quality -- I'll be sticking with my front-only setup from now-on.

Your mileage may vary... The only way to know what setup works for you is to try it out.




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