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Posted 19 October 2004 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE(sasso C70 @ Oct 19 2004, 02:34 AM)
Hey Rob,

If you do decide to convert to a manual throttle system, I wouldn't  spend SO MUCH money on the Motec EMS. Haltech, Electromotive and many other quality EMS can do exactly what you want. I don't know if these other systems can control VVT but they probably can, and if not just lock it out.
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Do they do 5cylinders? wink.gif I do not believe Electromotive will (thats what I intend to use on my possible T6 project), not sure about haltech.



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Posted 19 October 2004 - 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(sasso C70 @ Oct 19 2004, 02:34 AM)
Hey Rob,

If you do decide to convert to a manual throttle system, I wouldn't  spend SO MUCH money on the Motec EMS. Haltech, Electromotive and many other quality EMS can do exactly what you want. I don't know if these other systems can control VVT but they probably can, and if not just lock it out.
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Do they do 5cylinders? wink.gif I do not believe Electromotive will (thats what I intend to use on my possible T6 project), not sure about haltech.
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No 5 cylinder for the Tec3.

Haltech can as far as I´m informed.

About the Speed GT R, did the car have indiviual TB´s ? Can't see on the [icture but it doesn't really look like it.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 06:15 PM

Looks like they went with a return system for fuel.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(dougs242S60 @ Oct 19 2004, 08:08 AM)
QUOTE(sasso C70 @ Oct 19 2004, 02:34 AM)
Hey Rob,

If you do decide to convert to a manual throttle system, I wouldn't  spend SO MUCH money on the Motec EMS. Haltech, Electromotive and many other quality EMS can do exactly what you want. I don't know if these other systems can control VVT but they probably can, and if not just lock it out.
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Do they do 5cylinders? wink.gif I do not believe Electromotive will (thats what I intend to use on my possible T6 project), not sure about haltech.
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No 5 cylinder for the Tec3.

Haltech can as far as I´m informed.

About the Speed GT R, did the car have indiviual TB´s ? Can't see on the [icture but it doesn't really look like it.
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Nope, single TB, basicly stock looking intake.

Rob, they did go for a return setup, I noticed that too. I looked it over pretty close with you in mind wink.gif

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 09:11 PM

Why thank you smile.gif We are going to do a new rail and im thinking i wana go with a return setup so i can control fuel pressure. Im not sure how you would do that with a returnless system blink.gif

I figure that 550cc injectors should be good to upto 500whp or so i would say. Once i wana step over that Hp mark im going to have to go standalone to be able to controll anything bigger than that and also be able to control a 2nd set of injectrors. But is going to a return system on me7 worth it or shall i wait till i go standalone? That tis the ?

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-ARP Head Stud Kit
-Custom Intake Manifold
-Custom Tubular Manifold
-Garrett GT3071R Turbo 18-30psi
-Tial 38/40mm External Gate
- Front mount intercooler W/Custom Pipe
- Hhs Ssq Bov
- Walbro 255lph pump
- RC 550cc Injectors
- -8AN Braided fuel lines
- Rica custom Tuning
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Posted 19 October 2004 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE(ROB @ VMS @ Oct 19 2004, 03:11 PM)
Why thank you smile.gif We are going to do a new rail and im thinking i wana go with a return setup so i can control fuel pressure. Im not sure how you would do that with a returnless system blink.gif

I figure that 550cc injectors should be good to upto 500whp or so i would say. Once i wana step over that Hp mark im going to have to go standalone to be able to controll anything bigger than that and also be able to control a 2nd set of injectrors. But is going to a return system on me7 worth it or shall i wait till i go standalone? That tis the ?
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For your manual C the "returnless" system isn't as "less" as you think it is.
The regulator is situated underneath the passenger foot well..
You can remove the regulator and run a longer return line from there.

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE(Johann @ Oct 19 2004, 03:27 PM)
QUOTE(ROB @ VMS @ Oct 19 2004, 03:11 PM)
Why thank you smile.gif We are going to do a new rail and im thinking i wana go with a return setup so i can control fuel pressure. Im not sure how you would do that with a returnless system blink.gif

I figure that 550cc injectors should be good to upto 500whp or so i would say. Once i wana step over that Hp mark im going to have to go standalone to be able to controll anything bigger than that and also be able to control a 2nd set of injectrors. But is going to a return system on me7 worth it or shall i wait till i go standalone? That tis the ?
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For your manual C the "returnless" system isn't as "less" as you think it is.
The regulator is situated underneath the passenger foot well..
You can remove the regulator and run a longer return line from there.
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Aeromotive also makes FPR's that are adjustable and setup to offer a return back to the tank for excess fuel while using a "returnless" fuel rail.

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 07:40 AM

True that, i just gota take 1 thing at a time now, now that the cars about ready to fire up here i cant start seeing what will work and what wont.

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- Full Vms long block
-ARP Head Stud Kit
-Custom Intake Manifold
-Custom Tubular Manifold
-Garrett GT3071R Turbo 18-30psi
-Tial 38/40mm External Gate
- Front mount intercooler W/Custom Pipe
- Hhs Ssq Bov
- Walbro 255lph pump
- RC 550cc Injectors
- -8AN Braided fuel lines
- Rica custom Tuning
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Posted 23 October 2004 - 01:30 AM

QUOTE(dougs242S60 @ Oct 19 2004, 09:08 AM)
QUOTE(sasso C70 @ Oct 19 2004, 02:34 AM)
Hey Rob,

If you do decide to convert to a manual throttle system, I wouldn't  spend SO MUCH money on the Motec EMS. Haltech, Electromotive and many other quality EMS can do exactly what you want. I don't know if these other systems can control VVT but they probably can, and if not just lock it out.
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Do they do 5cylinders? wink.gif I do not believe Electromotive will (thats what I intend to use on my possible T6 project), not sure about haltech.
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A few weeks ago at a dyno session the Tec3 tuner was there and he said it was possible to install one to my car, but after calling Electromotive they just informed me that no it cannot be done.

I called Haltech and they said, yes, the EMS will work fine as long as I convert to a manual throttle system.

Edited by sasso C70, 23 October 2004 - 01:33 AM.

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 08:20 AM

Sean, i will be going with Motec or haltech once i have my fun with the car and feel i can do without it for a couple weeks while a new engine managment system is used. This would be a very detailed install as well as a PITA most likely but what isnt these days. I also talk to them about flying a Engineer to tune the car from Cali.

99 C70 5sp
- Full Vms long block
-ARP Head Stud Kit
-Custom Intake Manifold
-Custom Tubular Manifold
-Garrett GT3071R Turbo 18-30psi
-Tial 38/40mm External Gate
- Front mount intercooler W/Custom Pipe
- Hhs Ssq Bov
- Walbro 255lph pump
- RC 550cc Injectors
- -8AN Braided fuel lines
- Rica custom Tuning
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