Pops Racer

Not my intention at all. Just a general observation. I work for folks that have a lot of zeros in their bank accounts, and the staff of accountants and lawyers they keep is impressive. Plus these folks also donate a TON of cash to worthy causes. I wonder how that giving gets affected when the tax burden increases. Then again, a couple of these guys worked on Wall Street, one guy was a huge name in hedge fund management. Wonder how their doing now? Ah Greenwich, CT. Home to the ridiculously rich, and many of my clients.

Have the Neo_Nazis endorsed McCain? News to me so enlighten me. And so far , as dispicable as they are, Neo-Nazis have yet to blow up American citizens and planes. They like Obama because they see him as a weak link in the terror war. All they know is power and violence. Maroon is Bugs Bunny-ese for moron...you may be too young to remember that episode! I quote :"Watta maroon" w/ Brooklyn accent. The cries for Obama to be killed at a rally for McCain is pure urban legend and never happened. They asked for Joes opinion, they were in his driveway and they pissed him off. So does that warrant an invasive background check from an Obama supporter in Ohio govt? Scary. And as far as Keating, McCain more than atoned for his involvement and was on the for front of reform and oversight in the banking industry. Lets watch Frank and Dodd do the same thing. Don't hold your breath, they won't. I was referring to the Chicago political machine run by the Daly's. Not much change, dirty politics as usual. There are tons of Obama supporters raging out there. Many are press folks and ACORN employees, check the Daily Kos, and Huffington Post. Folks there wanted Tony Snow to die of his cancer and called for the assassination of the VP. Hanging Palin in effigy? Lets see what would happen if it was Obama. Not sure I see that kind of hate coming from the right. I won't even get into MoveOn.Org. I almost feel sorry for folks taking your position. I can't wait for my big fat toldyaso. Still not convinced McCain loses. I'm praying for the train wreck and the compulsory civil disobedience in protest. I love watching riots on TV. I may get a couple going at the same time so I can watch all the news folks loose their minds and scramble to find all the voter fraud. OHPLEASEOHPLEASOHPLEASE let it happen. Oh well should be an interesting night. Vote early and vote often, which ever park bench you list as your address. No matter what, democracy will win out.

I loved the lady at the grocery store yesterday. Cell phine,nails, hairdo, what looked like a real fur coat. Buys frozen shrimp, pays with food stamps, then goes out side and gets in a cab with her girl friend similarly dressed. Poor? Teen moms with designer jeans and a cell phone. I'm paying so she can eat? Thats not poor. Thats expertly using the system. Thats what will happen, folks with means will find a way to not pay more, tax revenue declines. Budget will not balance. Reduce taxes, folks spend or invest, tax revenue increases. Lower spending. Budget balances. Magic. I'm Milton Fucking Friedman.

I'm done making my decision. Surprise. Change? He came from the Chicago political machine lead by Daley. Many oh his cohorts indicted. Obama has never reached across the aisle or voted against his parties policy. Ever. Most liberal politician in Senate. And top 5 tax and spender. Shady associations and cloudy past. Associated with voter reg fraud. I totally dislike his economic policy, and his pitch for socialized medicine. Biden is a maroon. I can't stand his comrades in Congress and Senate. Afraid of judges he might appoint. Very wary of the media coverage or lack there of, the stifling of opinions, and the way his minions have gone after Joe the Plumber. That could be you getting opened up after you dissent. He has been endorsed by Hezbollah, Hugo Chavez, an Al Queda leader, among others not on our "friends" list. San Francisco radio douche calls for someone to kill Joe the Plumber. Nice. Thats the kind of people we'll be dealing with for next 4-8 yrs. You can't possibly be right about anything, your a Republican, or at least not an Obamite. I'll vote my conscience and hope people govern with common sense and practical application of sound economic and social theory. Thats the best we can hope for, I suppose. And if I'm real lucky I'll get to watch the riots when McCain pulls off a last second upset. Every one loves a train wreck, don't they?

Not a bad life if you can get it, huh? Hot wife, awesome ranch. I don't hunt, I fish, but I get it. I heard Gene Simmons was asked about running. He basically said "Not enough money for the hassle". DA MAN.

Ahh, so refreshing. Wangooo zeeee Tangoooo! If I get to keep more of my money I promise I'll spend it, personally leading the economic recovery. I'm voting for me.

Hmmm... I'm thinking it's about opportunity. Or the ease with which folks can get social benefits. South of the border is not the only direction folks want to come from. And your still here arn't you? And you have connections over seas. I've been to Europe 3 times in the last 30 yrs, interesting, informative, educational Beautiful people and country sides, and I loved London, Amsterdam, Frankfurt and especially the area of Westphailia ( SP?) in Germany. Good beers, food, and soccer, which I love. But after 10 days I always wanted to be home. In hi tax CT, USA. Speaking of hi taxes, Obama said $250k ceiling for tax hike, then he said $200k, Biden came out with $150k, now Bill Richardson says $120k, and some Obama campaign rep says $250k-$200k. Whats it gonna be? See my Edmund Burke quote about nibbling away. This guy is still a moving target, he's so slick I can't pin anything on him. I know nothing about him. Cool he was endorsed by Al-Quida, some Arab business man paid his tuition at Columbia. If all this BS was on McCains record the left would be setting the world on fire about it all. Best line of the campaign by The Governator: "John McCain served more time for the US in a prison camp than Obama served in the US Senate." I paraphrase, but not much. My economic plan: Cut taxes and reduce spending. real simple and it will work. Flat tax or consumption/ use tax. The Reagan tax cuts would have worked if the spending by Congress had been reduced. But they spent the recored surplus like drunken Cavalry soldiers. Its not just the Prez that matters. Again still no comment on my plumber question. I've got a lot of them in this thread that no one spoke on. Oh well. And if Obama plan does not work, how long before they blame it on past administration? When do I get to complain about Obama and his Congress? If stock market continues to stagnate, and small business doesnt grow, when do I get to cry FAIL? Will you guys on the other side of the debate side with me? If he is succesfull and I start doing better and the country rebounds, I'll cheer him on. I like money, and thats how he'll be judged.

Yup, and Americans are leaving in droves to emigrate to Europe. Folks are still beating down the borders to get into this country, cursing it all the way. Wonder why? Still no comment on the invasion of privacy inflicted on this Joe the Plumber guy, and the loud silence of the ACLU on it? If it was an Arab Terrorist they would have surrounded him, in lawyers. Hypocrites. The removal of 3 newspapers from Obama campaign plane, supression of info on Obama shady associations, the condemnation of a Florida news anchor, for asking hard questions, begs to the question of how freedom of the press will be addressed by Dear Leader and his cohorts in Congress and Senate, not too mention his future judges. If this does not concern you, don't complain about the Patriot Act. And watch out if you disagree with the Party in power for the next 4-8 yrs. With no checks and balances, this society could turn eevn more rotten real fast. By the way, probably already mentioned, but he couldnt get a low level CIA job if they did a background check. But you want him to be President. "The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts." Edmund Burke Burke Profile Link

Don't hate, it's bad for your heart. And yes to your questions. I just talked to my small business owner buddy. He reminded me that if your SS taxes increase, he has to match that contribution. Now who's hiring after that burden? I'm smelling Hoover trying to get out of the Great Depression. You gotta cut spending. If you raise taxes, real revenue declines. This could get bad. Employment did not improve until 20 years after Hoover/ Roosevelt tax policies. And that was with a manufacturing boom due to WWII. All taxes, fees, and increases in any operating costs get passed onto the consumer. Plain fact. Money stays in your pocket, and business struggles. Bad,bad,bad.

I do try to glean some numbers at least it gives me something to follow up on and check. They usually contain convenient omissions and distortions. You know you can make numbers say what you need them to. I'm trying to de-cypher tax plans now. I've found some stuff Obama hasnt mentioned, like 12.5% increase in SS tax and 2% increase in Medicare tax. Plus the math aint right either, spending vs revenue. And the thresholds keep changing. And no doubt the 43% that pay no taxes will get $500 "rebate" for an individual. Sounds like more vote buying. Tito The Builder for Prez!!

Are CEO's and execs gonna get bonuses with our money? WTF!

Flying in for his first post to make dumb commentary off topic...doosh.

Thats why if you really care, you need to dig behind media face. It's real hard to do tho, even with internet access. So many folks go for the look, the pretty words, all that superficial crap. Thats why going on associations, patterns of behavior, history, and basic ideas goes a long way. John Stossel of ABC has and editorial today talking about how some people should just not vote. They polled college students at a voter reg concert held by HeadCount.org. Non partisan group, he sites. questions like:" How many senators are there?" Answers? 12, 16, 64, and one respondent said 50 per state. Roe vs. Wade? Answers? "Roe vs Wayne?", "segregation, maybe?", "Where we declared bankruptcy?" But whats the cutoff, how much should you know? Maybe all that folks respond to is a handout or what can you do for me. Sad. Now, I bet JCviggen from Belgium knows how many senators we have. You gotta pay attention. Tidbit for today: Obama campaign has booted Washington Times, NY Post, and Dallas Morning News from campaign plane. All 3 have endorsed McCain.

HAHAHAH! Only one vote for McCain? Good stuff.

True enough. They already track your purchase patterns, TV viewing, and internet searches. All for" marketing". Govt monitoring can't be much different or far behind. Tho those types of resources must require tons of cash and man power. Plus there must be tons of info on those kinds of associations that are deemed irrelevant, but just because I never hear about it doesnt mean those folks don't get their doors kicked in in the middle of the night. The Big Brother theory keeps me thinking, not scared yet, but not naive about it either.

How much can we trust human nature? We all know if given half a chance many of us will do dastardly things to advance our positions. Thats why a pure communism will never work. Many will just sit on their butts and drain the system without putting in. Maybe our culture is so far gone from things like honor, honesty, and humility that we can't get it back. Enter Theology, stage right. It's all the Free Masons fault. And all the frat boys. Very well stated, by the way

You are a funny bastard...Really!! :lol: MoveOn.org, typical tho.

Wow, your down with the propaganda jargon. Way too literate for me. :D

WOOOOOWWWW! Thats an ass load of money! He was supporting a family of 4 somewhere.

MoveOn. Org. Real intellectuals. DailyKos? Hate group. People For The American Way. Not really for the American way. I would not call Hannity or Rush NeoCons. I'd call them True Conservatives. They've been banging on the Administration about spending, cultural issues, and other RINO policies. Chuck Hagle is not a NeoCon, is he? Your use of the term RADICAL is purely subjective. Most of these beliefs used to be mainstream in America. God, complete families, hard work, a hand up not a hand out, entrepreneurship (wow I spelled that correctly the first time!), civility. manners and respect. Not so much by anyone anymore. I wish it was 1955 again, without the racial suppression. 2 cars, 2 chickens, plenty of work, and a few morals.

They actually did! It's the cost of insurance they can't swing. They both have part time jobs, so they pay for their own gas. By the way, $2.35 a gallon today in CT. Feeding those two monsters is whats really killing me! "I don't know, it sells itself!" I like that guy, cool delivery, carnival style. Better than the OxyClean guy.

I don't drink much, quite the liteweight. But point well taken. I've actually started a foray into service of home electronics systems. A little cottage industry that will bring that kind of cash in. Program the clock on an old ladies VCR, hook up your equipment after you've moved, install a CATV or phone jack in your house. Like $50 a visit. Not a lot but I'll get calls because I'm cheaper and more qualified than ATT or Comcast. Just a little flash cash to cover the gas for the cars and propane for the heat. I got a bunch of Volvo parts in the basement, need some? Or maybe a small mary jane farm in the shed? I'd make money, I won't smoke my profits! Just Kidding FBI guys using the Patriot Act!!

Who decides who needs real help, and who is stiffing the system and defrauding us? Thats a huge deal. Just creating the organization that makes those decisions is quite the undertaking. And defining the needy, not the lazy. Who decides? Wait a second, their is no criteria now but we still hand out cash when folks ask for it, regardless of need. Big industry, Big farm, Big banking all get a "hand up". Means more govt, be careful what you wish for.

Erik, you are goood. That actually sound like a reasonable number. I'm not sure they are making outrageous profit relative to research and exploration expenditures. Would also like to see how much that 81,000 employees paid in taxes. Or how much EM paid to lobbyists. Seems like EM is paying their fair share, 2-1 tax to profit. If that was the ratio for an individual....youd be screaming, no?

1. Read, study and interpret the Quran. That should be easy, it's taken devout Muslims over 700 yrs to do that, it should be easy for us. (tongue firmly implanted in cheek) 2. Build McDonalds and Walmarts every where. You forgot to mention how the brothers in your example will also perform an Honor Killing and whack said sister. Or how the Arab Christian community is treated. Like burned and bombed churches in Lebanon, and thousands of Christians routed from their homes. These religious rivals used to live in harmony before Munich Olympics. The problem is cultural, religious and economic. Very complicated.