Commander Riker

I was in one of our "intruder drills" and honestly, I was surprised they weren't going to this extent. They showed the student body that if you are the person who triggers this alarm, you have utter power over the school. As a kid that was picked on a lot growing up, I saw this. This is becoming a theme that America seems to respond to. Terrible act... then ridiculous changes to our security resulting in surrender of freedoms... "dat safe feel". :-/

This is kind of what I was afraid I would end up seeing in schools : http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/01/30/school-to-hold-active-shooter-drills-fire-blank-rounds-in-hallways/

lol. Please note my painfully obvious troll face. I've had to just say stupid things that anti-gun people say for my own humorous reasons. It's about all I can input into this discussion without pointing out how the gun debate is a symptom of a larger problem. People say our constitution, especially with the 2nd amendment, is outdated. The thing is, the government has evolved into a monster, by which now terribly conflicts with the ideals that the constitution were set forth with. Basically... it's too far beyond repair, IMO. Done subscribing to any hope in the matter.

Come on guys... go back to bed. Everything is A-OK. Amiright?

How dare you say that this money... I mean country is built on the idea of selling things! The people of this country are perfectly sane... and we have no mental health problems. We must ban all guns so bad people won't get them... thusly... I be able to sleep better at night KNOWING that there's no guns that could hurt... the kids.

Nope. We should ban clips of more then one rounds. I mean, the 2nd amendment specifically referenced muskets. So, that's really anyone should be allowed to have.

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I understand many middle and high schools had guards where you guys went. Obviously, you didn't seem affected by the metal detectors, and maybe I'm looking too much into this. At first glance... I felt putting guards in elementary schools was overkill. However... when I try to think about my years in elementary... yeah... all gone.

I agree, actually. No one should have guns in schools... except for maybe those like our SRO, who is armed and on one campus sometimes. Now tasers in the hands of correctly trained persons, I'm more ok with... though it still does pose it's risks. I dunno... call me old school... but I don't remember cowering in a dark room with my class while a buzzer blared it's racket incessantly. Then again, we did have fire drills, I suppose.

Very interesting. I completely believe that money would probably be the root of the responses... with the children's safety in mind too, of course. Not sure if this is a valid question, but does school violence in the news drive up insurance premiums?? What, if any, affect do you think the increased security measures have on the psyche of the student, and or the faculty? That's primarily what concerns me.

You missed the part about morals exist without religion.... oh and how this is related to security.

Religion has many good morals in their story books. However, we can have good morals without religion. Schools are a place where all students come from multiple backgrounds to learn, and while I'm not opposed to them learning about the aspects of a religion or related good moral values, the implication that the problems today are due to a "lack of god in schools" is rather insulting. Learning is not equal to indoctrination.

I was just curious if there are any other members on the forums that work in education. Noticing a scary trend in this country in regards to "safety and schools." Today, I witnessed an intruder drill that was more like a prison lockdown. In light of recent, yet somewhat ongoing school violence, I wanted to get the opinions of others who may also work in the field and what they thought would help. It ranges for different schools... some have nothing... some have Officers and/or metal detectors, etc. One school here in Texas even has RFID badges that the students are required to wear. Overly, I'm saddened that we have to think like this in today's age... about the security of innocent kids from deranged persons. This isn't a pro/anti gun thread. Militarizing our schools I think is going to have a negative psychological affect on the young ones, and ultimately on society. Thoughts?

"I'm just going to pretend you didn't say that." -America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OlAx4Dok38

F'n called it: http://unprison.com/2013/01/18/the-tragedy-we-know-obamas-gun-control-moves-will-accomplish/

Well... it's a good thing that those without licenses don't just go and drive cars. Right?? lol. You faaaaaaaiiiiilllll.

Great video. Thank you for posting this.

It's like you get excited. :-/

You should probably outlaw guns.

Sorry Mike, but your video posts are about as relevant as this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEXMLxESoE

Reuse the 98 t-stat housing. It has a handing for the additional coolant jacket to run through the PCV. Dan was awesome and helped me do mine. Just need an NPT tap and fitting. Here is Dan being awesome :

It may be a stretch. I was generally talking about the "authoritarian complex" that rises in people. It happens regardless the size of environment, and having a gun on one's hip, I'm willing to bet, would re-inforce these kinds of influences.

Well... having lived here... I have to say, it's not a fair comparison. However, there's an interesting comparison I'd like to make. Houston has guns and has crime. Chicago has guns, and has crime. Do gun laws influence gun crime?? Certainly, but it's a slight influence IMO rather than no influence or total influence. Often, gun laws have their biggest affect on law abiding citizens. For example, the new paperwork is very very concerning. It's things like that... pointless trivial regulations, that we should be doing away with. The government asks if you are a member of an anti-government organization, which means they must be concerned about this to a degree. Good. They should be. In general, though... having lived in Texas for a time now, I will say, at least outside of the large cities or in the smaller ones, I'm quite ok with guns being everywhere. People are very courteous...including law enforcement. To this point... I'd like to point out that when you have law enforcement with guns and civilians without, a "superiority complex" (known phenomena) takes place. This was found in a Stanford psychological study, and the results were pretty shocking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

People want to blame guns for gun violence, rather than blame society and realize 'Murica is broken (quite potentially beyond repair).