Thunder87, wow. Small world. What's your ClubGP SN? I am kj99gt, on the board since '98. Oreo931, thank you for sharing. I just read your post about the wreck. I am going to have my teenage daughter read it. You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders - as she does - and yet, a moment's innatention, a poorly design intersection, and you were nearly killed. Even the "best" drivers make mistakes. That is why they are called 'accidents,' right? Thank God you are okay. You sound like a great kid (no offense, I'm 43, sorry. <g>) If I could find a one-owner, low(er)-mileage, garage kept, fully documented '95 850, I'd probably jump at it. I can't find ANY other than this one at a lot, which was sold via an auto auction at one point according to Carfax, so, I'm leery. On the subject of safety ... check this out. Here is some IIHS safety reports to consider: Volvo 850/S70 1993-2000 models FRONTAL OFFSET TEST OVERALL EVALUATION: Good http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=36 Toyota Camry 1997-2001 models FRONTAL OFFSET TEST OVERALL EVALUATION: Good http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=69 Volkswagen Passat 1998-2005 models FRONTAL OFFSET TEST OVERALL EVALUATION: Good http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=92 Interestingly, all these cars are essentially comparable in terms of safety. So I guess that makes them good choices. I know this is a Volvo enthusiast board. Just trying to carry on the convo. Thanks, all. -kj-