EricF

so Jan redid the tune?

i thought you had his highest tune already?

Jan has many tunes for quite a number of hardware setups. Every time I ask him if he has something close to what I have, he comes up with a new one that's pretty close. Hopefully Hussein gets some more satisfaction with this one :)

Can't wait to hear how the tune is

Looking good as always.

Yesterday, Sunday April 5th, I went to the annual Volvo "Eland" meeting together with the person who bought my SD2.

The former SD2 S70, now running a 2003 T5 engine, K24 turbo, 3" turboback exhaust, dyno'd at 375+ crank HP, and me driving the SD-C (or nowadays called the GT850-RS <img src="http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> ) were just entering the highway when a Porsche 996 GT3 came from behind a few cars back in row. The GT3 was in a hurry and the guy was showing it by pushing cars in front of him. Since we were entering the highway we let him pass and while driving in traffic in the left lane for a while there appeared to be coming blue smoke puffs from the right rear of the car. I guess a valve cover must have been leaking or so.

After traffic cleared the GT3 went WOT and the S70 followed and of course I didn't want to be left alone.. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

To my surprise the GT3 was no match and both Volvo's kept sticking to it's bumper. Not so much a surprise for the S70 but for my 850 which didn't have any problems keeping the pace. For the next 25 or so miles we kept driving behind and the S70 also in front of the GT3 for a while where it clearly walked away from the Porsche. At one point the speed went up as high as 150 mph but I backed off at ~135 during this run because all kinds of road dirt and stone chips started smashing the front of my car and I also noticed oily/greasy stuff on the windshield... Shortly after the Porsche took an exit and we drove on at a more legal pace.

The windshield was extremely dirty and greasy so i put on the wipers and added some washer fluid, wrong move, after which it became one big mess.. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="mad.gif" /> Eventually most wiped off.

Once arrived at the destination the S70 driver told me he also had this same dirt on the windshield but then I noticed the whole car was covered in oil .. .

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A nice thank you from the Porsche driver.. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="dry.gif" />

Looks like you caravanned to a turbobricks meet ;)

WTF is wrong with everyone here? I thought debating legalization of marijuana was for 9th grade debate classes?

My take:

This is just some backwoods sheriff who wants his national press conference and two days in the limelight (and his very own thread on VS!). If you google image search for "bong" you'll get millions of people smoking out of bongs. I would guess that maybe 0.001% of them ever have charges brought against them. It's a bogus issue, and to let it spawn a 5-page debate about whether weed is good or not is absurdly funny to me.

Weed is bad for you, almost everything is bad for you though (the sun included). What is different is that *weed* is *illegal* and talking about how awesome it is and how much you smoke it on a *public* forum is about as smart as that sheriff thinking the DA isn't going to drop these charges in a hot minute once they see it's from a damned college internet photo and it's our own red-blooded USA-flag-wearing record-breaking olympian dreamboy.

You could put an eye out with one of those corks, ya know. European Union is a whole years worth of threads.

Yup. They saw our growing bureaucracy and our bureaucratic immobility and said "Hey USA fuckers, we can top that.."

As for Chavez, the oil has made them so damn much money it's only natural a lot of it goes to defense spending. Especially when they actually have a valuable export to defend.

As for Obama riots, I think you'll see plenty bitching on the internet, but only the damn fools are going to be rioting. It's funny that no one seems to realize how absurdly moderate both of these candidates are.

Bravo Eric. Very insightful.

Some of things one may find when researching the Muslim faith will further understanding. Add that with a historical account of the region and you’re on your way to understanding why America is seen by many in that region in such a negative light.

America has time and time again disrespected their faith, traditions and taken sides in their wars. By doing so we have created a long standing hatred for America and it’s beliefs. I.E. Funding wars, selling weapons, taking Israel’s side with everything, buying oil from the lowest bidder in turn funding rebels, unprovoked occupations, hiring lawless renegade contractors to fight our wars and building military bases on holy land. Just to name a few.

I don’t expect the US to act perfect. I also understand by fighting a war, there will be an enemy. However, we can do much better. Much, much, much better.

We have always always analyzed the region on our terms and by our standards. Women can't vote, don't have certain civil rights. What an appalling scenario! What barbarians! It is just different there. If you disrespect a woman and her brothers get wind of it, you will end up in a gutter or worse. In some societies of course..

It is truly another world there, and we need to stop applying our standards to their societies, which to them are as alien and unreasonable as theirs are to us. Our decades of such impositions have driven many people over there beyond the point of reasoning and have in some ways precipitated the rise of some of these terrorist organizations on a grassroots level. Give them a charismatic figure (or a number of them) who can effectively channel feelings of distaste, betrayal, and misunderstanding into hatred, violence, and fanaticism, and you find yourself onto the road to where we are now.

We approach conflicts from the outside with little regard for the historical significance of these conflicts or the historical outcomes of similar conflicts and why the people are really divided in the first place, and project our own imaginary scenarios onto them. Descendants of two rival tribes or regions who have hated each other for centuries could be seen in our eyes as a noble struggle to fight against communism or totalitarianism. An insurgence against a totalitarian leader who does not favor the US in matters of global trade might then be construed as a rise against an oppressive dictator. A dictator reinforcing his arsenal to retaliate to a nearly imminent attack from Israel could be seen as a threat to our national security, thousands of miles away.

None of that can possibly be acknowledged as being even remotely legitimate when you consider the history of the region and its people. Forms of government are absolutely irrelevant, decisions are made at parties or gatherings behind closed doors where the power elite might share a drink and talk directly and frankly concerning matters that are confronting their specific body of government. This is not in any text books (to my knowledge). But you will find many educated Muslims or people who are familiar personally with the region that will tell you this. I had a few such college professors teaching high level political science courses (some dealing with the Middle East exclusively) who spoke about such things with conviction that you could never duplicate.

Case in point, if we ever establish a truly stable Iraqi democracy, this structure will only be the result of one of multiple warring factions using such an establishment to gain the upper hand on the other side. Any perceived bilateral cooperation will be just that, a perception. It is the inevitable path of things presently, and it is necessary for our military withdrawal from the state, but I will absolutely guarantee you with 100% of certainty that such an establishment will fail very predictably. There is currently no desire anywhere in the region for democracy (Israel will be excluded from most of what I am talking about because they are more or less an artificially created state by Western governments and do not fit into any type of model of regional analysis), there is just no such desire to conduct government in that way. There is no historical basis for this which does not come directly from our own revolution for desiring such participatory government (or perhaps the French Revolution), which is so completely isolated from the region and its predominant cultural makeup that it is just staggering to consider what we are trying to do when all things are considered.

There is one exception, I forget whether it is Morocco or the United Arab Emirates, it has been too long since I have studied such things. But the ludicrous premise behind every policy we have made regarding the region needs careful and thorough reconsideration before we can move forward with logical policy and issue positions.

Anyway, there's story/rambling/ranting time with Eric for the evening.

I think to properly answer this question you first need to seperate yourself from popular perceptions regarding the issues of terrorism by fundamental groups, as well as gain a better understanding for Islam as a religion and its historical role in state governments within the Middle East. A historical perspective focusing on governments in the region both recent and quite far back in history will illuminate a lot of the fundamental beliefs in the region which are taken to the next level by some of these terrorist groups.

Once you have a firm or at least a general understanding of the region's historical instability, the magnetization people seem to have towards charismatic figures and their natural rise to power in somewhat of a totalitarian sense, as well as a few other key factors, you will then gain a more full understanding of some of today's Islamic fundamentalism. There is a great cultural divide between our regions (less emphasis on the predominant religions themselves than most lend credit to) that makes much of our discussion over here regarding situations over there more or less akin to what I would call mental and verbal masturbation.

As soon as you understand the political climate that has dominated the region almost uniformly for perhaps at least a couple of centuries, you will start to form your own reasons (typically more valid than those read in the local newspaper or on a candidate campaign TV commercial) for why terrorism acts are committed against us.

I have a bit more to say on the matter if anyone is interested (might even be able to answer the original question directly, gasp), but it's time for a company-paid dinner right now.

drunk on painkillers killed my wrist this weekend.. thank you mr hospital doctor for your magical pills ahaha

Yup, still hung over.

Don't believe I've been this hungover in a very long time.

That's really about it.

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Damn Mark!

why da f00k does the butrbo ahave aonly 3 bolts when it sdhoula have 3 studs byt the fuk34 doesn't een have the mind of sense to reason the fact that it needs 3 nuts... bwahahahahaha tis how e23 roll

Three words

MONSTER TRUCK RALLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gu3mbl8SAk

"You know, a few years back, monster trucking was in the same shape as Shirling is today."

lol i love the "i have black friends" justification therefore you're not racist.

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

Haven't gotten to use that link in years..

The fact that a car with a build of that scope and level would have a "welded" oil drain line is beyond me (unless it was carefully and properly tigged, which I doubt is the case). I don't use SS braided return lines because I am ghetto and poor, but on a car like that it shouldn't even be a question.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, hopefully you can get some closure. Would be nice to hear what Evolve has to say, but don't think we'll get that opportunity from the sounds of it.

If somebody just can't get their signature picture down to the acceptable size and is hammering their keyboard and monitor with their fists in frustration, here are a couple classics I'll offer for you for the meantime:

Honestly though... If you can figure out how to make a signature picture, go resize the damn thing as it only takes about 14 seconds total.

And that is the reason why conservatives like you should not be running this country. Liberals self-loathing?!?!?! You don't care about anyone but yourselves, and you would rather say F it and destroy things than sit down and think about why sh!t is happening BEFORE you jump to a conclusion. That is why we are in such a mess!!!

~Mike

The neo-cons are the farthest thing from isolationist you could ever conceive. Look up hegemony in a political science context. It is our constant meddling in other peoples' affairs over the last 5-6 decades trying to make things better and failing which has given the Arab nations among many others a sour taste regarding the United States.

Diplomatic channels in the Middle East have been exhausted to their full potential *constantly* ever since Israel was created. As soon as there is room for improvement of relations through diplomacy, it happens. Significant progress is made now and then through diplomacy, but generally speaking it is usually at a standstill.

You can't just say "Ok you boys play nice now, let's stop all this killing each other" and suggest that as the pinnacle of effective overseas involvement. Military involvement has not worked well for us in Iraq, but neither did diplomacy. Saddam Hussein was a pretty sneaky guy, we'd been playing the same old games with him for the last decade. Now he is probably playing different games...

Has it improved the stability of the region? No. Has it improved security of our assets in the region? Possibly in some cases. Did it make things much worse? Again, no.

Think of it as when you are driving and switch lanes to pass someone only to come up on traffic going the same speed in your new lane. Just sucks that lives must be lost in such an endeavor. It is impossible to prove that the amount of life lost is more than it would have been if Hussein had remained in power though, just as another thought.

I've spent a lot of time studying Middle Eastern politics and culture as well as international relations in general, so if anyone has any questions I will do my best to answer them..

Favorite color car Good luck.

No one on this board will have anything other than a single turbo anyway

(save those using a nitrous shot as well, which is really the only feasible/worthwhile option discussed in this thread)

Where are you guys making up your alternate cost lists getting an 18T ECU tune for 300-400? Speedtuning? o_0

Unless you're planning on using a cheap low end off the shelf 15G map, which is just silly.

It looks like IPD could really do a little more ignition tuning from that dyno chart, probably gain a bit of power and smoothness, but still a nice package. 260 real whp in an 850 is fast.

Good deal. If I did not have the connections I had and wanted to build a quick daily driver, this would be at the head of my considerations.

(I've probably tried more turbo and tuning options on my own car than anyone here 'cept maybe Johann or Mike )